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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    He let cameras come into legislative talks on gun control this week. Did you catch that?
    Are you saying you have a video to show me or not?
  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Are you saying you have a video to show me or not?
    You know I don't have sound during working hours! Check this link out. There's a whole playlist under the main video window of short videos that show Trump talking about all kinds of stuff. The subtitles made sense to me, but I'm sure you'll just call it all incoherent drivel.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/28/polit...ing/index.html

    And honestly, to find a president talking off teleprompter for more than a few seconds, you'd almost have to go back to a time before the teleprompter was invented.

    Why don't you just say what your point is hmmm??

    I can't imagine why you think Trump has trouble communicating. The guy uses a 4th grade vocabulary. Are there words you don't understand??

    The guy fucked up one god damn letter in the first video I posted and you just bathed yourself in confirmation bias. I really don't see any value in fighting you through this juvenile "challenge" you've initiated.
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    Actually if you recall my original argument was he is an incoherent idiot when it comes to policy matters.

    Your response was to post a video of him reading off a teleprompter, which only goes to show he can read, not that he's erudite when it comes to policy.

    So when you get home from work, go through your playlist and find two minutes of him speaking off the cuff about policy in a coherent manner. Should be easy if he's as smart as you claim he is. I've provided plenty of examples of him being incoherent, you're only being asked to provide one example of the opposite. And you're failing miserably.

    And fyi, there are things called interviews where presidents get asked questions about policy, and they're not reading off a teleprompter. And invariably Trump rambles on incoherently in those as well. Would you like me to post a few transcripts of interviews to prove it, or are you happy to accept his general incoherence as a given?
    Last edited by Poopadoop; 03-02-2018 at 03:06 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Actually if you recall my original argument was he is an incoherent idiot when it comes to policy matters.

    Your response was to post a video of him reading off a teleprompter, which only goes to show he can read, not that he's erudite when it comes to policy.

    So when you get home from work, go through your playlist and find two minutes of him speaking off the cuff about policy in a coherent manner. Should be easy if he's as smart as you claim he is. I've provided plenty of examples of him being incoherent, you're only being asked to provide one example of the opposite. And you're failing miserably.

    And fyi, there are things called interviews where presidents get asked questions about policy, and they're not reading off a teleprompter. And invariably Trump rambles on incoherently in those as well. Would you like me to post a few transcripts of interviews to prove it, or are you happy to accept his general incoherence as a given?
    We're just gonna go down a rabbit hole debating "what is incoherent". Count me out.

    I feel like I understand everything he's saying. Yes, it's happened that he's thought three sentences at once, swished them all together in his mouth, and spat them out on phrase at a time. He does that alot. That doesn't mean he's an incoherent idiot. The only people that seem to have trouble understanding him are the media shitheads who have financial/career incentives to mock soundbytes and pass it off as political commentary.

    Perfect example, the link you posted earlier today mocked Trump for thinking that babies shouldn't be born at 9 months. Trump knows how long it takes for a baby to be born. No sensible person actually thinks that Trump thinks it's wrong for a baby to be born after 9 months gestation. Yet there it is, in black and white. A 70 year old misread one friggen letter within some small print, and suddenly we're accusing him of not knowing 2nd grade biology.

    I really have no interest in engaging with people like that. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation..

    Last edited by BananaStand; 03-02-2018 at 03:41 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    I can't imagine why you think Trump has trouble communicating. The guy uses a 4th grade vocabulary.
    What you can or can't imagine is a statement about yourself, and not the topic of conversation.
    Or is that more snowflake melodrama?

    Are you really suggesting that using a 4th grade vocabulary is indicative of superior communication skills?

    What's holding you back from being a great orator yourself, then? A lack of Dr. Seuss to practice at home?

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    I feel like I understand everything he's saying. Yes, it's happened that he's thought three sentences at once, swished them all together in his mouth, and spat them out on phrase at a time. He does that alot. That doesn't mean he's an incoherent idiot. The only people that seem to have trouble understanding him are the media shitheads who have financial/career incentives to mock soundbytes and pass it off as political commentary.
    Your ability to take a sentence and contort it into something other than its literal meaning is exceptional, I agree.

    That is not indicative that what meaning you have divined is his intended meaning.
    Maybe it is, and maybe it isn't. There's more than one way to interpret his stream-of-consciousness speaking style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    What you can or can't imagine is a statement about yourself, and not the topic of conversation.
    Or is that more snowflake melodrama?
    OMFG, this need you have to be the most philosophically deep person here, while still saying nothing of substance is no longer cute.

    Are you really suggesting that using a 4th grade vocabulary is indicative of superior communication skills?
    No I'm saying that it shouldn't be hard to understand.

    What's holding you back from being a great orator yourself, then? A lack of Dr. Seuss to practice at home?
    To quote one of the great philosophers of our time

    You are also well capable of recognizing where the line is and when you've crossed it. If you're not clear on where the line is, it's personal attacks, and this is dangerously close. Keep it in check

    Your ability to take a sentence and contort it into something other than its literal meaning is exceptional, I agree.
    I have no idea what you're referring to.

    That is not indicative that what meaning you have divined is his intended meaning.
    Maybe it is, and maybe it isn't. There's more than one way to interpret his stream-of-consciousness speaking style.
    Dude...even the article that Poop linked said that "of course he meant to say 'torn'". They said it was "apparent".

    Are you suggesting that it's remotely possible that Trump is against babies being born after full gestation??
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    Are you suggesting that it's remotely possible that Trump is against babies being born after full gestation??
    No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    We're just gonna go down a rabbit hole debating "what is incoherent". Count me out.

    I feel like I understand everything he's saying. Yes, it's happened that he's thought three sentences at once, swished them all together in his mouth, and spat them out on phrase at a time. He does that alot. That doesn't mean he's an incoherent idiot. The only people that seem to have trouble understanding him are the media shitheads who have financial/career incentives to mock soundbytes and pass it off as political commentary.

    Perfect example, the link you posted earlier today mocked Trump for thinking that babies shouldn't be born at 9 months. Trump knows how long it takes for a baby to be born. No sensible person actually thinks that Trump thinks it's wrong for a baby to be born after 9 months gestation. Yet there it is, in black and white. A 70 year old misread one friggen letter within some small print, and suddenly we're accusing him of not knowing 2nd grade biology.

    I really have no interest in engaging with people like that. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation..


    I guess that's your way of saying "No, I can't find anything with him speaking coherently for 2 minutes straight on policy without assistance from notes and/or a teleprompter. But here's a gif of him saying something stupid again because deep down inside I know you're right."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    my original argument was he is an incoherent idiot when it comes to policy matters.
  10. #10
    I said 'incoherent', but insane is not too far off either.
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    He has strong results in other intellectually challenging areas, he is well known for branding and sales (and his behavior can be explained by established practices therein), and for the last 40 years every top level Republican has been heavily attacked on intelligence grounds. Given the great lack of direct information about his intelligence, these factors can be helpful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Given the great lack of direct information about his intelligence, these factors can be helpful.
    Nope, we won't know for sure until he croaks and we can weigh his brain

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