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 Originally Posted by CoccoBill
If Trump voters are proven wrong, have they been duped and done themselves and their country a huge disservice?
Duped? Not really. The Russia stuff was out well before election day. He didn't show his tax returns. He didn't take an IQ test. He could have. But he didn't. People knew he didn't, and they voted for him anyway. So I don't see how anyone can claim they were fooled if it turns out he's a broke, stupid, russian spy.
Does this apply to those who didn't vote for him? Are you deliberately trolling and refusing to connect the dots?
It is you who is ignoring dots sir. You wanna talk about 'duped'. Let's talk about Democrats. They were all hornswaggled into believing that the primary was honest. As it turns out, Bernie never had a chance. How did they react to being 'duped'?
They got angry at Trump for letting the Russians red-pill them.
Defaults happen despite banks monitoring and doing audits.
Wrong. Defaults happen BECAUSE of banks monitoring and doing audits. They come in and peek at the books some 2000 times a year. And if they every crunch the numbers and don't like the result, it's game over. "Hey Captain Combover...your debt-to-equity ratio sucks. Welcome to default". That's how it happens. They don't just wait until you stop paying your bills.
Therefore audits of Trump's companies do not guarantee that they'll never run into financial trouble,
Do you know what "going concern" means. Without googling it?
Actually, that is what it means.
Without solid verifiable facts skepticism is the only reasonable position.
There are solid verifiable facts. You just don't like them.
It is. Too bad it doesn't allow for a leap from solvent >>> yuugely profitable.
Logic painted you into a corner and now you move the goalpost. Cute.
That because he got elected, he must be smart, competent, successful, not corrupt, not prejudiced, smell good and one of the greatest cellists of all time?
Winning an election means most of those things, yes. I'm also guessing Trump is more into woodwinds. Maybe jazz clarinet.
Maybe I've seen as much evidence from you as you've probably seen from me, since there isn't any.
Yes there is
Despite, or exactly because of?
Because of.
We could leave out the inflation if we were just calculating dollars on his bank account, but we're not doing that.
Actually, yes. That's exactly what we're doing.
This whole thing is to show a person starting with millions can earn billions, just by investing in the index. Any fucking idiot is able to do that.
Any fucking idiot who lives in a fantasy universe where he doesn't pay taxes, management fees, or need money to live.
You're now suggesting, that he must be a brilliant businessman since he's beating that?
I'm suggesting that above average performance is strong evidence of exceptional skill
I think most of all it takes lots of campaign donations.
Then Clinton should have won 538-0
Right, because no one ever voted a republican because they happen to be male, or white, or evangelical christian, or libertarian, or...
Look dude, if you think problems of identity politics and lack of messaging are equal on both sides...you're fucking bonkers.
So he wouldn't endure the cost, stress, and public scrutiny that comes with being President for financial success, but he's definitely doing it for personal ambition and patriotism.
It seems highly unlikely that he could make more money by being president than he can business-ing for the rest of his life. It doesn't make mathematical sense that he could tread-water on business growth for what is surely at least half of his remaining life, and somehow end up with more money. Selling a few extra rooms at Mar-a-lago, or passing tax cuts that are SURE to be gone if a Democrat ever gets back in office....just doesn't seem like enough incentive.
What does make sense is that he's an exceptionally driven person who probably believes that he has the right policy ideas to drive a prosperous economy. I suspect that's the same reason that Obama, or Reagan, or Chester A Arthur became president.
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