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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Well if he's the type to escalate to lacing your lunch with ebola, you're probably right. In that case it becomes a bit more tricky.

    In my experience pranking is done within boundaries that both parties respect. Bullying has only two outcomes: defy the bully or submit to more bullying.
    I have been successful with a third option, but it's something I'm good at doing and I always dislike it when somebody says "here's what I would do" so I didn't want to do that. The third option is to change the frame with the bully. Befriend the bully, give him reason to like you and respect you, make him feel like you like him and respect him. Then you can impart on him that you don't want to be pranked like that. Unless his IQ is lower than you think BStand's is, he'd usually listen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    I have been successful with a third option, but it's something I'm good at doing and I always dislike it when somebody says "here's what I would do" so I didn't want to do that. The third option is to change the frame with the bully. Befriend the bully, give him reason to like you and respect you, make him feel like you like him and respect him. Then you can impart on him that you don't want to be pranked like that. Unless his IQ is lower than you think BStand's is, he'd usually listen.
    I agree more or less. The only caveat would be that the third option can be time-consuming and/or soul-destroying. But if you are dealing with a bully for whom standing up for yourself only gets you beat up , then yeah schmoozing them can be an optimal strategy. In my experience standing up generally has some meta-game advantage in that other bullies know not to play you the same way.

    I would add that I don't think Banana has a low IQ; I think it is above average. But IQ is not everything, otherwise we would all just agree with MMM or Ong all the time. IOW, I don't think that IQ necessarily relates to the value of arguments.

    The value of an argument should have nothing to do with who you are arguing with and what you think of their intellect. Even if Spoon or one of his alter egos came on here and argued MAGA HOLY FUCK and followed it with some reasoned analysis of why we should all be shouting MAGA Holy Fuck that had some appeal to reason, I hope that I would be open to entertaining it.
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    I would add that I don't think Banana has a low IQ; I think it is above average.
    I scored 135 on the WAIS III
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    I scored 135 on the WAIS III
    And like I said, there's a distinction to be drawn between the IQ of the medium and the value of the argument.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    I would add that I don't think Banana has a low IQ; I think it is above average. But IQ is not everything, otherwise we would all just agree with MMM or Ong all the time.
    I'm confused as to why you picked those two for your example and not me? I've proved I'm the smartest person on ftr.
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    I'm confused as to why you picked those two for your example and not me? I've proved I'm the smartest person on ftr.
    Sorry I meant to include you as well but I thought two geniuses was enough to make the point.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Sorry I meant to include you as well but I thought two geniuses was enough to make the point.
    MMM and Ong aren't geniuses though. I forgive you though.
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    MMM and Ong aren't geniuses though.
    We don't know that because they haven't told us their score on the WAIS III yet. Maybe they are or maybe they aren't. My rule of thumb is that intelligence generally correlates negatively with the willingness to state it as fact (unless of course you're a very stable genius).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    We don't know that because they haven't told us their score on the WAIS III yet. Maybe they are or maybe they aren't. My rule of thumb is that intelligence generally correlates negatively with the willingness to state it as fact (unless of course you're a very stable genius).
    I heard they've only done WAIS II.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    My rule of thumb is that intelligence generally correlates negatively with the willingness to state it as fact (unless of course you're a very stable genius).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    MMM and Ong aren't geniuses though. I forgive you though.
    It's true, but I thought I was covering better than that.

    EDIT: according to the WISC-R from about 25 years ago.
    IQ is meant to be stable, though, so if it was correct then, it's probably still within a few points of that now.
  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    It's true, but I thought I was covering better than that.
    You do, you make Ong look a lot smarter than he is.
  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    MMM and Ong aren't geniuses though. I forgive you though.
    I just assume MMM is a genius because he does real science and Ong is a genius because he has nothing else to do with his time.

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