**** Elections thread *****

[wufwugy]

It all depends on where on the spectrum you put 'excess' I suppose. If you think a rich man should have 3 yachts, 6 houses, and 12 cars rather than 2 yachts, 4 houses, and 5 cars, so as to keep poor people from starving, and him resisting that makes him greedy, that's one thing that most people wouldn't dispute. If you think a middle-class family that doesn't want to give their money to a programme that gives every lazy bum a free vacation is being greedy, that's quite another that most people would agree is retarded.

The problem with his wording is that he doesn't indicate where that line should be drawn, but rather implies that it's morally fine for the billionaire to have what is clearly in excess of what he could possibly ever need while the poor man starves, and if the latter expects help from the former that makes the poor man the greedy one.

That's the frame that is used to make it seem not greedy to want to take from somebody while being greedy to want to keep one's own. I liked what Sowell said back when I first saw it because it showed me that this frame isn't reality but a frame.

[Poopadoop]

That's the frame that is used to make it seem not greedy to want to take from somebody while being greedy to want to keep one's own. I liked what Sowell said back when I first saw it because it showed me that this frame isn't reality but a frame.

So the billionaire who pays no taxes but enjoys all the benefits of gov't isn't being greedy, is that it? He just wants to keep what he has?