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    I'm confused as to whether the thing in quotes is what you think is a reasonable explanation or an erroneous one made by "most".

    If it's the former, using this opportunity to slam Bannon legitimizes the quotes attributed to him in the book. Labeling him "Leaky Bannon" further compounds this. So some may not notice this inconsistency, but who are the rubes? His base?

    But, let's step back from the 3D chess board. Or at least zoom out. What do you think is happening here? I get that your story that lead up to this disagrees with the president being an impulsive strategic buffoon, but how many of these seemingly impulsive fumbles need to happen before your picture changes? Or the picture on the shared screen that I only get a peek at? If Pence pulls the 25th, does your screen adjust, or is it still pro Trump? If Mueller actually is building a case against Trump and drops indictments(recommendations for impeachment? I'm not entirely sure how this works..) does that snap the projector into focus?

    Maybe it's my screen that is largely showing a false narrative, and I suppose I should ask myself the same questions, but, well, I asked first
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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    I'm confused as to whether the thing in quotes is what you think is a reasonable explanation or an erroneous one made by "most".
    It is an explanation that somebody can make to handle the logic you presented.

    If it's the former, using this opportunity to slam Bannon legitimizes the quotes attributed to him in the book. Labeling him "Leaky Bannon" further compounds this. So some may not notice this inconsistency, but who are the rubes? His base?
    Thinking that logically about it isn't something that many people will do. The funny thing is that with that in mind, it can explain why both the quotes could be false and Trump could attack Bannon. I don't have much of an opinion on the book because I don't think it matters one way or another if they are true.

    But, let's step back from the 3D chess board. Or at least zoom out. What do you think is happening here? I get that your story that lead up to this disagrees with the president being an impulsive strategic buffoon, but how many of these seemingly impulsive fumbles need to happen before your picture changes? Or the picture on the shared screen that I only get a peek at? If Pence pulls the 25th, does your screen adjust, or is it still pro Trump? If Mueller actually is building a case against Trump and drops indictments(recommendations for impeachment? I'm not entirely sure how this works..) does that snap the projector into focus?
    I'm trying to respond and realize that I need you to clarify exactly what you think is happening. Exactly what your logic is.



    As for what I think is happening is that Trump fired Bannon in part for leaking other things not related to this book, that Trump is taking out Bannon in part because of how Bannon is screwing things up in elections (Roy Moore/Luther Strange), and that Trump is taking out Bannon in part because it is an effective counter to the book. The book needs to be countered, not because of what Bannon is quoted for, but because it's the backbone of the current narrative that Trump is crazy. As far as I can tell, you pointed out how one statement Trump makes being true implies the other he makes is false. That can be the case, but also few people think that hard about these things. Tearing down Bannon as "the leaker" can make the book seem less credible simply because Bannon is associated with it. The general public doesn't stop to think about it like you have; they don't go "oh wait that makes Bannon MORE credible". They just think "pew pew Bannon the leaker pew pew Wolff is a liar pew pew Trump said he's Very Smart Genius".

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