Bigred's Video Game Thread

[Jack Sawyer]

This is what he misunderstands

Your use of the phrase "make it harder" is extremely revealing of my point. Some in-game accomplishments took longer to complete than you would have expected had you painstakingly done the math (which you didn't). That's not a change in difficulty.

Also, "harder" is a relative term. Relative to what? Looks like the XP throttling has been in place since the beginning. So the game is as hard or easy as it's always been. It sold well, it got good reviews. People seem happy with the pace of play and frequency of accomplishments. So what's the problem?

They lied. They straight up lied. Because this is what happened: Bungie mislead players about how much experience they were actually getting for repeated quests in the game. Players in the game suffered from drops in experience point (XP) gain depending on what modes they played and for how long... without any in-game notice.

Cliff's notes here: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/...-in-destiny-2/

No one thought they were getting fleeced in this regard until someone bothered to check. The community "assumed" the counts were accurate. And they weren't. They were actively being misled by the developer. We are big boys and girls. Does that mean we have to accept being actively mislead/lied to in a product that you bought? I'd be very angry if instead of getting the chair I bought they sent me a picture of the chair with numbers on it. Framed. Sepia colored.

"Throttling" would mean I give you less XP and I tell you I give you less XP. Here, they gave less XP while telling you that you got the same amount as before. The less they gave varied for your activity, all the while they did not inform you of this at all. And the in game prompts would not tell you this; only way of knowing accurately how much you got for what was with a helper app.

And then people bothered to check, and then they figured this out, and then shit hit the fan. Devs apologizing, promising "fixes", silently increasing prices for in game items etc.

It's deceptive AF. I can't support a company while knowing full well they do this to me.

[BananaStand]

This is what he misunderstands

No, I totally get it.

They lied. They straight up lied.

Ok. You're not wrong. But no one got hurt. If you're gonna say "but progress was hindered" or something like that, I don't wanna hear it. The game doesn't owe you anything other than an enjoyable gaming experience. It delivered that. Anything beyond that is just bonus fun. You aren't entitled to anything. So you can't really claim a loss as a result of this deception.

Furthermore, the remedy proves that the game was already balanced in a way that delivered rewards and accomplishments at a pace and frequency that was appropriate.

Also, if you're really this outraged over a lie of this magnitude, then you probably shouldn't buy anything, ever. Enjoy life as a caveman.

Honestly dude, the fact that you so passionately covet something as trivial and practically worthless as XP, suggests that you're deluded and significantly disconnected from reality.

if you think your XP level matters.....you should get help.