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 Originally Posted by Poopadoop
We already agreed Mr. Ball is a dick. What's your point?
My point is that none of this would have happened if Mr Ball wasn't a dick. So it's a little dubious when people like you point the finger at Trump for being petty. He's seizing an opportunity. Ball gave him that opportunity.
If CNN or any other news media says 'wow the president finally did something right', then yea i guess on some level that's impressive.
Ok, so we agree then. Now the only question is this "impressive" outcome the result of Trump's actions, or just a case of him luckboxing into some positive spin? I kinda think it's the former.
Not what I said at all. But it isn't uncommon for a president to intercede on behalf of his citizens in another country. You act like it's never happened before
Of course it's happened before. You act like it's always had a 100% success rate.
Yes, of course those kids deserve to rot in jail for 10 years for shoplifting. And the president getting them released is the diplomatic coup of the century that no other president except all of them have ever pulled off before.
Before 9/11 the first publicized challenge of GWB's presidency was getting some captured pilots out of China. He succeeded, and was widely praised. Deservedly so. Just like Trump deserves credit for what he did. I agree with you that it's a relatively small accomplishment, and certainly not the first of its kind. However, the more it's talked about....the bigger and more important it becomes. And people are talking about it. And they're talking about it because the president tweeted.
You're saying that's all by accident. Trump is just "lucky" that the news is favorable for him this week? Cmon man...
Lol, if there's anyone left in the middle in America, they certainly aren't thinking 'wow thank god we have a president who can have a twitter war with some mental case on the internet.'
Pay attention dude. That's NOT the headline those people are seeing. The headline they are seeing is "Trump wins in China", and that probably DOES resonate with them.
Is he? Because most busy men in very important jobs are spending their time thinking about their jobs on a plane, lying in bed, etc., not sending tweets to some random jerk.
I get it, you don't like the President tweeting. You're not alone. But it's not gonna change, so you should try to have an open mind and embrace it. No president, or even a moderately busy person, has ever had to deal with an adversarial media with as much reach and influence as we currently do in 2017. When I was a kid, we had 12 tv stations and the news was on at 6. Period.. Now a generation later we have 1200 stations and 12,000 website all running 24 hours a day. The vast majority of them have openly abondoned an impartial approach to journalism and have completely committed to undermining Trump's administration. Trump needs a rapid-fire defense mechanism, and twitter provides that. It is part of his job. It's not a distraction. It's not a hobby. It's not a habit. It's not an obsession. It's not anything other than one of many functions of his job at President of the United States.
Also, this isn't like it's the first time this kind of thing has happened.
And it won't be the last. Because, again, twitter is now part of POTUS's job.
There you go, the old argument about Trump's stupid behavior deflecting attention from even worse behavior
I didn't say anything about "worse behavior". Maybe there's obstacles in the tax plan. Maybe there's rumblings from North Korea. Maybe there is just some other shit going down that demands his focused attention and occupying the media with some BS distraction about a college basketball player is exactly what he needs to focus on more important business.
Or maybe it's none of those things and he really just manipulated the media into emphasizing his success in China.
Sure, I guess that's a talent of sorts. But wouldn't you prefer a president whose image isn't so poor among most people that he needs to constantly be doing this?
That wasn't an option. Both Presidential candidates were widely detested.
So if I'm on the train home and I tweet to Mr. Ungrateful parent it's a good use of my time?
If part of your job is being in the headlines all day every day, and by sending that tweet you've helped shape and influence a headline that's favorable for you then yeah...that's a tremendously good use of your time.
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