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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    A number of studies suggest that laws and policies that enable firearm access during emotionally charged moments also seem to correlate with gun violence more strongly than does mental illness alone
    Makes sense since gun violence and emotionally charged situations probably occur simultaneously far more than mental illness does with either.

    52 Miller et al. found that homicide was more common in areas where household firearms ownership was higher.53 Siegel et al. found that states with high rates of gun ownership had disproportionately high numbers of deaths from firearm-related homicides.
    Makes total sense. Note that people who support the right for individuals to protect themselves don't argue against this.

    54 Webster’s analysis uncovered that the repeal of Missouri’s background check law led to an additional 49 to 68 murders per year,
    Some parts of St. Louis are a killzone (roughly speaking). Using data on it and extrapolating leads to bad conclusions.

    55 and the rate of interpersonal conflicts resolved by fatal shootings jumped by 200% after Florida passed “stand your ground” in 2005
    How much of that is statistical noise, which is very very common given the parameters, and how much of it is directly related to new and unjustified stand your ground action?

    56 Availability of guns is also considered a more predictive factor than is psychiatric diagnosis in many of the 19 000 US completed gun suicides each year.
    Makes sense. Mental problems are pretty much a scapegoat. I'm not sure how meaningful saying a place with more guns has more gun deaths is.

    (By comparison, gun-related homicides and suicides fell precipitously, and mass-shootings dropped to zero, when the Australian government passed a series of gun-access restrictions in 1996.59)
    Just the other day I saw data suggesting that the opposite happened. I took that with a grain of salt since I know how easily datasets can mislead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Some parts of St. Louis are a killzone (roughly speaking). Using data on it and extrapolating leads to bad conclusions.
    I live here (in StL). What are you talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    I live here (in StL). What are you talking about?
    I have family that lives there too. Their description of the crime that makes St. Louis statistics look very high are concentrated in certain areas of the city.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    I live here (in StL). What are you talking about?
    BTW if you don't like that I said "killzone", okay, I just really wanted to use that word (it's fun!).

    The point I was getting at is that the high murder rate in Missouri comes from a handful of small regions in St. Louis, and that looking at a correlation between a change in a law and a change in the murder rate of Missouri doesn't tell us much about what is actually going on.

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