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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by BigSlickBaby View Post
    I didn't mean to be a dick in telling you to use the hand converter. You don't want to post your username and that of the players at your table since a lot of the people reading this actually play against you at those same tables. (raises hand). You actually left a table yesterday where you were to my right because I kept 3b'ing your CO and BTN steals from the BB.
    Diin't take it that way at all. It was crap to read that way. And stop bullying me.
  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Mcash2 View Post
    Diin't take it that way at all. It was crap to read that way. And stop bullying me.
    I saw you posting on CardsChat, too. Word of advice: Don't even bother wasting your time around there. Those are, by far, the fishiest forums on the entire internet. Many, many of those guys are absolutely clueless and can't even figure out how to use a HUD. FTR, PokerStrategy.com, RunItOnce, TwoPlusTwo - These are the places you want to learn today. These are where you'll find the pros. CardsChat is extremely rec heavy and the skill gap between a rec and a reg today is just absolutely massive.

    The most constructive and personally tailored criticism you can get is here on FTR, very often on 2p2, and PokerStrategy.com. If you look at the way they make us think outside the box and challenge us on these sites, you'll see there's just no comparison to any of the other forums around save RunItOnce but that's almost entirely centered around stakes much higher than the ones you and I are playing currently.
    Last edited by BigSlickBaby; 06-17-2017 at 05:56 PM.
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by BigSlickBaby View Post
    I saw you posting on CardsChat, too. Word of advice: Don't even bother wasting your time around there. Those are, by far, the fishiest forums on the entire internet. Many, many of those guys are absolutely clueless and can't even figure out how to use a HUD. FTR, PokerStrategy.com, RunItOnce, TwoPlusTwo - These are the places you want to learn today. These are where you'll find the pros. CardsChat is extremely rec heavy and the skill gap between a rec and a reg today is just absolutely massive.

    The most constructive and personally tailored criticism you can get is here on FTR, very often on 2p2, and PokerStrategy.com. If you look at the way they make us think outside the box and challenge us on these sites, you'll see there's just no comparison to any of the other forums around save RunItOnce but that's almost entirely centered around stakes much higher than the ones you and I are playing currently.
    Quite the stalker BSB, aren't ya? If you had continued stalking, you would have noticed that I only posted one hand there. Reasoning, since you must know, was that I just came across that forum recently and Spoonitnon wanted discussion, so the more players to he me review could only be a positive I thought and still do. But I got no action there and the only criticism was 1 or 2 sentences long on my HH. Waste of everyone's time. At 2+2, I have been a member there for over a decade, and although great reviews, the overall atmosphere seems very uppity and cliquish.
    Last edited by Mcash2; 06-18-2017 at 07:13 AM.
  4. #4
    2 - In greater depth: PF before action: All prs, A8s+, AQo+, 98s+ -
    - PF after action: capped thus removed AA-JJ, AK -leaving TT-22, AQ, A8s+, KQ, 98s+

    - Flop (Td, 3c, 6s) Bad for his range. Only TT, 33, 66 has me beat in my guessed range of V. I think all 3 very unlikely as you would expect them to check to aggressor unless going for 3-bet. But I raise and they don't 3-bet, showing weakness, so I cap again right. That leaves 99, 88, 77, 55, 44, 22, A8s+, 98s+, which are all way behind.

    -Turn (8s) 88 has me beat in his range.

    -River (9c) 99, 88, T9s, 98s has me. I don't see 98s as a viable hand for his line really, but other 3 could have made the donkbet make since as blocking bets.

    In review, I realize one area I really need to study is assessing ranges more accurately. By underestimating his range initially from the SB, some hands that beat me got through my web. This could be disastrous.

    Also I think I am being somewhat results oriented. It was a dry board and playing it slower was likely value-wise, a better line. That show-stopper river card is a rarity, or at least should be uncommon hopefully. Or maybe a better line was to Call his donkbet (which is hard if you perceive that he wants action). Then on the turn and wetter board, take down the hand and save milking for less dangerous situations. If he leads or doesn't, bet or raise 3x or 4x his action. Reassess river if he calls, and based on his lead action and board, after calling a large turn bet/raise, and now most likely pot-committed, I'd probably lean toward check/calling river action. Thoughts to this line?

    Thanks everyone for your help. I will start working on my other posted HH's. I posted too many, not realizing that analysis would be as time-consuming, but I am enjoying this.

    My main focus in the first 4 hands is CBing, which is the catalysis for how expensive and/or dangerous the rest of the hand plays out. So I see that you can't really study CB's without studying its effects on the remainder of the hand. Which makes total sense when you type it out, yet doesn't always hold true in my mind at the table when I'm min-raising or jamming without a second thought and riding my gut. I realize that I will surely advance as a player by studying, although I will take much time and effort. Thanks again everyone.

    What I have learned from this hand solely on CBing in this situation. On the dry board, I needed to focus on valve and not defense, which I actually did, yet for the wrong reason. I was merely playing by rote a small-ball style, afraid to put money in the pot with a premium pocket pair for fear of losing a large hand. It worked out that he called my min-raise this time, but a more lucrative line in the future, although not every similar situation, would be to call his donkbet on flop, with the intention to bet/raise on turn, when the pot is bigger and board certainly will grow wetter.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Mcash2 View Post
    Quite the stalker BSB, aren't ya? If you had continued stalking, you would have noticed that I only posted one hand there. Reasoning, since you must know, was that I just came across that forum recently and Spoonitnon wanted discussion, so the more players to he me review could only be a positive I thought and still do. But I got no action there and the only criticism was 1 or 2 sentences long on my HH. Waste of everyone's time. At 2+2, I have been a member there for over a decade, and although great reviews, the overall atmosphere seems very uppity and cliquish.
    Very cool. I hardly ever go on CardsChat but I logged in because I had a new PM and just happened to notice a thread with your name as the most recent poster. I didn't look any further than that. As you know, 2+2 and FTR are really great places. I would also suggest looking into PokerStrategy.com. Right now, the videos and content they're producing for the micros (and yes, they focus on 2 through 50NL specifically) is the best content I've ever been able to find in 3+ years. I've learned more in 3 weeks on that site than I did in the 3 years playing prior.
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by BigSlickBaby View Post
    Very cool. I hardly ever go on CardsChat but I logged in because I had a new PM and just happened to notice a thread with your name as the most recent poster. I didn't look any further than that. As you know, 2+2 and FTR are really great places. I would also suggest looking into PokerStrategy.com. Right now, the videos and content they're producing for the micros (and yes, they focus on 2 through 50NL specifically) is the best content I've ever been able to find in 3+ years. I've learned more in 3 weeks on that site than I did in the 3 years playing prior.
    Definitely will give a gander thanks.

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