Why do we believe in math?

[wufwugy]

@wuf: You need to get to the core of what you mean when you assert that something is true.

Also, It seems like you're trying to push "Is XXX real?" into a binary answer.

There's different kinds of real, as you pointed out earlier. Tangible real is one thing. Emotions are another. Ideas / concepts another still. I'd say, those are arranged from "most real" to "least real" but all of them are real.


Do you see unity in something being real and an idea being true?


I hearken back to that quote from the movie Second Hand Lions.

I think I reached the limits of my understanding, which is partly why I brought it up here.

I'm just baffled by what is actually "real" or "true" and what is not. For a long time I thought science tells us, but no, it doesn't. Ultimately I probably land where Savy does, in that there is not any ultimate truth we have the capacity to know. But, you know, who knows?