Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
What even is the evidence of Russia hacking? That Ukranian software was used? Big LOL
I believe that Russia did the hacking. multiple intelligence agencies agree wholeheartedly on that, and have stated so publicly many times, not the least of which was the January report from the DNI

What's totally absent is any evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government. Literally zilch, and the DNI himself has stated exactly that, publicly. Comey said this morning that the investigation has been going on since July. Don't you think that's enough time to determine if there was a connection. If they haven't found it by now, they aren't going to find it.

I also find it completely unbelievable that they have found even circumstantial evidence. We would have heard about it by now in this age of leaks we live in.

Yet the investigation grinds on, and as long as it remains open, the democrats can keep raising this specter of Russia to undermine anything the President does.

The other side of the coin here is that there are reports, though yet unconfirmed, that there was a FISA warrant authorizing monitoring of the Trump organization. Comey would not confirm or deny the existence of such a warrant today. But, if there were no warrant, he wouldn't be commenting on anything classified by denying its existence. So my inference here is that there was a warrant issued.

Those warrants are supposed to be used in situations of dire urgency related to matters of significant national security. And they require a high standard of cause in order to be issued in the first place. When you're using them to monitor a major party political candidate for president, the standard should be even higher.

So there must have been a really really really good reason to monitor Trump right? Yet after 9 months of investigations by every intelligence agency we have....there's not even a whisper of evidence against Trump suggesting he colluded with the Russians.

So, if the FISA monitoring was authorized without that high level of proof.....then it means it was a fishing expedition launched by Obama against his political opposition. That's wicked wicked wicked bad!

So, either Obama acted because there was enough evidence to suggest Trump was in collusion with Russia, or he abused his power for partisan political interests.

So weighing the state of affairs right now, on one side I see Trump who owns nothing in Russia, owes no one in Russia, and has nothing more to gain by employing Russia than he does by employing Argentina or Bahrain. On the other side you have Obama, who has already demonstrated that he is capable of abusing his power to harass his political opponents (remember the IRS scandal???)

Who do you believe??

I guess there is a third option where there was no FISA warrant and there was no monitoring of the Trump campaign.

But I find that exceedingly difficult to believe since we know, most definitely, that somebody wire tapped Michael Flynn