Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
re. Beatles
Your argument sounds like you're trying to convince me that there's great variety in the Taco Bell menu.
You can mash them together however you like, but ultimately, it's all the same ingredients.

Layered harmonies were a staple of barbershop n-tet music, which predates the Beatles in the pop music scene.

My argument isn't that a 4-piece guitar-based pop/rock band was the reason they're great.

My argument is that prior to them being great, this wasn't really a thing. In the aftermath of them being great, they've been copied endlessly.
The entire setup of a 4-piece guitar-based pop/rock band MAY have become popularized w/o the Beatles' success. The fact is that whatever else their impact on pop/rock music, the setup of a 4-piece guitar-based band was copied by thousands of people even while the Beatles were still gaining success. Some of those bands were quite popular, too.

The whole cementing into our culture that 4 guys with guitars and a drum set can be a world class performance group is due to the Beatles' unprecidented success and the success of extremely similar bands which followed the Beatles' professional choices.