**** Elections thread *****

[Savy]

So what do you think they use those powers for? Crime prevention, stopping terrorists, etc., or something more sinister? If the former, then isn't this a good thing? And if the latter, then what sinister purpose exactly do you think they're using the info for?

There are a few things here but ultimately they don't keep your information safe so it isn't an issue of what the government want that information for it's what anyone wants it for.

[Poopadoop]

There are a few things here but ultimately they don't keep your information safe so it isn't an issue of what the government want that information for it's what anyone wants it for.

I agree they have no business tracking what average people do. But I'm curious as to what specifically people think the gov't is doing to spy on them, and how they are in danger of being harmed by it.

For example, I've heard people complain about cctv on public streets being an invasion of privacy, to which I think 'What privacy? you're on a public street.'

[Savy]

I agree they have no business tracking what average people do. But I'm curious as to what specifically people think the gov't is doing to spy on them, and how they are in danger of being harmed by it.

For example, I've heard people complain about cctv on public streets being an invasion of privacy, to which I think 'What privacy? you're on a public street.'

Ultimately the question has to be what is the benefit to why they are doing this. I don't have much of a problem with CCTV but I'd be very surprised if it didn't turn out to be a complete waste of money. You do also get CCTV that intrudes on peoples private property which is a no go.

Also this whole average people thing is a bullshit argument. There are pretty strict measures in place for getting a warrant to go into peoples homes. There is a reason for this. Now what happens if the government essentially is able to gather huge amounts of information on anyone they want and do what they want with it. This is clearly not even remotely ok. They attempt to get away with it because they say TERRORISM!!!!!! but it's just complete bollocks.

There is a very good bit of Will Self on question time talking about it but I can't seem to find the clip on youtube unfortunately.