**** Elections thread *****

[BananaStand]

Trump is annihilating Obama's legacy. It's absolutely incredible. He has done SO much in his first week to curb stomp the previous 8 years, and guess what, Trump adversaries are barely even talking about it. Trump is teaching a master class in winning right now. He's got all his haters totally oblivious to how he's tearing down everything they fought for, because they're too focused on some silly "impropriety."

Even I am surprised at the extent to which this is happening. I was expecting to see the media go crazy over what has been happening to Obamacare over the last couple weeks, but I'm hearing next to nothing. I've never seen such effective defeat of opposition than I have from Trump. Obamacare is half gone and the writing is on the wall that it will be fully gone soon, and yet the headlines are still bitching about some Trump tweet. It's incredible.

I agree on the point about the media jumping on tweets and crowd counts being part of their strategy to ignore/marginalize any bad news for Obama's legacy.

however, I think you're giving Trump way too much credit here. It's not Trump's fault that Obama was a terrible leader and so many of his "accomplishments" are written in sand. Trump's doing the easy work now, and he's going about it the same way Obama did, with executive action. Someone else could come along 4 or 8 years from now and undo everything you're applauding now.

I'm gonna reserve my cheers until I see him sign something passed by congress.

[Poopadoop]

Is this substantive enough for you?

[wufwugy]

Is this substantive enough for you?

Washington State is the shitlib capital of the world. Trust me.

[BananaStand]

Is this substantive enough for you?

Not really. All I see there is another anti-trump rant. using big words and superlatives to make Trump sound like a devil.

As if he implemented this ban out of pure sadistic cruelty.

Typical leftist whining here. Not much more.

No one said that an immigration ban would be convenient. No one said, "it will only affect the bad people".

But Trump ran on it, and he won. That means it's what people here want. Seattle doesn't get to say "well we don't like it, so it shouldn't apply to us". I'm all for states rights and fewer federal powers, but enforcing the border is Fed territory, and Seattle can shut the fuck up.

[Poopadoop]

Not really. All I see there is another anti-trump rant. using big words and superlatives to make Trump sound like a devil.

As if he implemented this ban out of pure sadistic cruelty.

Typical leftist whining here. Not much more.

No one said that an immigration ban would be convenient. No one said, "it will only affect the bad people".

But Trump ran on it, and he won. That means it's what people here want. Seattle doesn't get to say "well we don't like it, so it shouldn't apply to us". I'm all for states rights and fewer federal powers, but enforcing the border is Fed territory, and Seattle can shut the fuck up.

Pretty sure Trump hasn't suspended the 1st amendment (yet). So sorry, but you can't tell someone they have to shut up 'cause they disagree with his way of doing things and aren't polite about saying it.

[BananaStand]

Pretty sure Trump hasn't suspended the 1st amendment (yet). So sorry, but you can't tell someone they have to shut up 'cause they disagree with his way of doing things and aren't polite about saying it.

Typical liberal nitpicking man. You get to pick and choose when you take things literally and when you don't. Trump's an idiot for citing "locker room talk" when he wasn't physically in a locker room, but Obama's red line with Syria is open to interpretation.

Fine, I should have used the phrase "too bad so sad, but Gov can stand there and rant like a lunatic all he wants"

Pretty lazy and immature strawman argument to suddenly suggest I'm proposing we eliminate free speech.

[Poopadoop]

Typical liberal nitpicking man. You get to pick and choose when you take things literally and when you don't. Trump's an idiot for citing "locker room talk" when he wasn't physically in a locker room, but Obama's red line with Syria is open to interpretation.

Fine, I should have used the phrase "too bad so sad, but Gov can stand there and rant like a lunatic all he wants"

Pretty lazy and immature strawman argument to suddenly suggest I'm proposing we eliminate free speech.

Didn't Bannon tell the media to shut up too? It just sounded like you were echoing the administration to me. General intolerance of criticism, starting from the top.

[BananaStand]

Didn't Bannon tell the media to shut up too?

Probably, I didn't see it. But I believe you. Not sure what that has to do with me though. I don't know Steve Bannon. I don't speak for him.

It just sounded like you were echoing the administration to me.

Why would I do that?

[wufwugy]

I agree on the point about the media jumping on tweets and crowd counts being part of their strategy to ignore/marginalize any bad news for Obama's legacy.

The MSM is unable to focus because they're getting played so hard.

however, I think you're giving Trump way too much credit here. It's not Trump's fault that Obama was a terrible leader and so many of his "accomplishments" are written in sand. Trump's doing the easy work now, and he's going about it the same way Obama did, with executive action. Someone else could come along 4 or 8 years from now and undo everything you're applauding now.

I'm gonna reserve my cheers until I see him sign something passed by congress.

It's certainly not near finished. The pace at which things are getting done is staggering.