**** Elections thread *****

[OngBonga]

No, he's saying everyone in power is a pedo. Did you not read his first post on the topic?

And I'm saying that Sir Jimmy Fucking Savile would likely have been in a position to name many of these prominent paedos, hence the reason he was protected.

Savy is wrong when he says everyone in power is at it. It's just a lot of them.

[Poopadoop]

And I'm saying that Sir Jimmy Fucking Savile would likely have been in a position to name many of these prominent paedos, hence the reason he was protected.

Assuming those prominent pedos existed, he would have. But there's no evidence of that afaik. The reason he was protected isn't clear, and it could have had to do with a lot of other things. Like the fact that it would have ruined everyone's xmas to find out their favourite childhood star was a perv. Stuff like that.

Savy is wrong when he says everyone in power is at it. It's just a lot of them.

So it's ok now that his comment made my head aslode? Oh, that's a relief.

Of course I should be open to that idea, since I gave your Satanism conspiracy theory a chance. Mind you, your response to a request for evidence was basically to tell me to go find it myself.

[OngBonga]

Assuming those prominent pedos existed, he would have. But there's no evidence of that afaik. The reason he was protected isn't clear, and it could have had to do with a lot of other things. Like the fact that it would have ruined everyone's xmas to find out their favourite childhood star was a perv. Stuff like that.

There's plenty of evidence of people who have links to Savile. Rolf Harris for a start, who's now in prison. Then there's a dead Prime Minister, Edward Heath. They'll throw some people under the bus while they protect those who either know too much or are protected for another reason. People like Cliff Richard spring to mind. The police tried to go after him, but nothing will come of that. I'd say with 90% confidence that his name will be dragged through the mud when he's dead.

Of course I should be open to that idea, since I gave your Satanism conspiracy theory a chance. Mind you, your response to a request for evidence was basically to tell me to go find it myself.

Well yeah. If you give a shit, don't expect others to spoon feed you. There's evidence out there. Do you want to see it? Google is your friend.

[Poopadoop]

Well yeah. If you give a shit, don't expect others to spoon feed you. There's evidence out there. Do you want to see it? Google is your friend.

Well yeah, I don't give a shit. You're the one who thinks it's true, I think it's a joke. So you're the one who has to make a case, not me.

When you argue something and someone says 'where's the evidence?', and your answer is 'google', it basically means you don't even know yourself.

[OngBonga]

Well yeah, I don't give a shit. You're the one who thinks it's true, I think it's a joke. So you're the one who has to make a case, not me.

When you argue something and someone says 'where's the evidence?', and your answer is 'google', it basically means you don't even know yourself.

It means I can't be arsed to spoon feed someone who doesn't care.

[Poopadoop]

It means I can't be arsed to spoon feed someone who doesn't care.

I'm happy to hear about the evidence, I just don't want to spend my time doing your homework for you.

[JimmyS1985]

I like the Trump people in this thread because they seem pretty intelligent compared to my stereotype, even if I did vote for Hillary.

(If you want to see my stereotype of a trump supporter watch this youtube video lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZdF3agiJ7Y)

Anyways, I'm not wealthy like you guys are, maybe I didn't try hard enough in life, thinking about working in the school system and working with children or teenagers to be honest.

My friend voted for Trump, he gave me one of the most compelling reasons ever. I can't fact check him, but I don't really have a reason to believe he's bullshitting me. He installs satelite dishes for $40-$50k a year. Well he's too rich to get subsidies for healthcare, and too poor to finance the healthcare on the exchange himself. So he just pays the god damn fine, which adds up to $200-$225 a month. Think about that, that's like getting a speeding ticket once a month from the Federal Government which it will spend on people who don't have a middle class job like he got, to get their healthcare.

Even still though, I like to study economic policies that worked/failed, and I'm really hoping that President Trump doesn't implement about 90% of what he said, but to be fair I strongly supported his plan to spend fuck tons of money on the infrastructure of this country, but his trade policies, while trade needs to be addressed, they sounded very likely to get us into massive trade wars with other countries.

Just in case, on my meager earnings, I wound up buying about $3,500 in market traded gold on Wallstreet yesterday as insurance in case the economy goes south. Add that to my $600 or so in physical silver that I own, I got some precious metal for insurance in case SHTF, a lot of economists predict if he does actually implement huge portions of the policies he said he would, it would result in a massive recession. I think it's ok now to doubt political pundits, and pollsters in light of this election, but I have a pretty high opinion of the economists.

For us poker players, we'll be fine though, poker is kind of a recession proof game.

[wufwugy]

Even still though, I like to study economic policies that worked/failed, and I'm really hoping that President Trump doesn't implement about 90% of what he said, but to be fair I strongly supported his plan to spend fuck tons of money on the infrastructure of this country, but his trade policies, while trade needs to be addressed, they sounded very likely to get us into massive trade wars with other countries

I don't think we're at risk of that. The details Trump has given wouldn't cause a trade war.

[JimmyS1985]

I don't think we're at risk of that. The details Trump has given wouldn't cause a trade war.

Renegotiating trade deals to more favor the American worker, I'm fine with that.

Here's the issue I have, specifically his tariffs. Because in 1930, they passed the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act (Ben Stein even talked about in the film Ferris Bueller's day off) and I believe it was widely regarded to be an economic disaster that hurt America and the rest of the world.

If he puts into law, 45% tariff on Chinese goods, and 35% tariff on Mexico's goods, he has no power to stop China from responding with their own tariff of American goods, and the same with Mexico. I'm pretty sure that would put all 3 of our economies into recession. Those policies specifically, also he's not popular with a lot of our allies, I basically got about $4,100 in precious metals now incase SHTF, usually if I ramp up my holdings in precious metals, it's because I'm worried about a recession.

Also deporting 6.8 million migrant workers, I would imagine the US Economy losing 6.8 million workers would heavily impact our economy as well, that was another reason I bought precious metal yesterday.

One last thought, we should all keep in mind our war with Japan, and entry into WWII stemmed from a major trade dispute between our two countries.

[Poopadoop]

I agree. Slapping a huge tariff on a trading partner is not going to work unless part of the plan is to never export to them yourself.

[wufwugy]

Renegotiating trade deals to more favor the American worker, I'm fine with that.

Here's the issue I have, specifically his tariffs. Because in 1930, they passed the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act (Ben Stein even talked about in the film Ferris Bueller's day off) and I believe it was widely regarded to be an economic disaster that hurt America and the rest of the world.

If he puts into law, 45% tariff on Chinese goods, and 35% tariff on Mexico's goods, he has no power to stop China from responding with their own tariff of American goods, and the same with Mexico. I'm pretty sure that would put all 3 of our economies into recession. Those policies specifically, also he's not popular with a lot of our allies, I basically got about $4,100 in precious metals now incase SHTF, usually if I ramp up my holdings in precious metals, it's because I'm worried about a recession.

Also deporting 6.8 million migrant workers, I would imagine the US Economy losing 6.8 million workers would heavily impact our economy as well, that was another reason I bought precious metal yesterday.

One last thought, we should all keep in mind our war with Japan, and entry into WWII stemmed from a major trade dispute between our two countries.

Those policies are indeed terrible, like you say. Trump doesn't want to do those. Penalizing companies that make their nut in America then wanna move to a different country is not the same thing. Granted, the penalizing by itself can be called economically bad in pure microeconomics terms, but there are some other advantages regarding culture and stuff. It is probably a good idea to encourage domestic solutions before foreign ones.