**** Elections thread *****

[wufwugy]

The D+34 is in their sample, it's not their weight. A lot more Dems. answered their polls than Reps. They didn't try to assume that 34% more Dems. than Reps. would vote.

Their weight was based on voter registration by party - 36% Rep. 31% Dem. or whatever it is. So basically, yes, they counted each republican as having more weight than each dem. to arrive at their final estimate.

I guess that makes me wrong. I thought it was the other way around. It makes more sense this way actually. Regardless, the unweighted data shows likely huge sampling error, which includes the R sample not being representative of R population.

[Poopadoop]

...which includes the R sample not being representative of R population.

That seems quite possible given their results are outside the typical range for polls in Arizona.

But that's quite a bit different from saying the poll was 'rigged'.

[Savy]

That seems quite possible given their results are outside the typical range for polls in Arizona.

But that's quite a bit different from saying the poll was 'rigged'.

It seems to me a lot of this is looking at things that are imperfect and assuming that they are meant to be 100% truth. Then saying it's rigged because it isn't 100% truth.

[Poopadoop]

It seems to me a lot of this is looking at things that are imperfect and assuming that they are meant to be 100% truth. Then saying it's rigged because it isn't 100% truth.

Add to that the idea that it's only rigged when it shows your guy is losing and you've pretty much summed up the creed of the conspiracy nut club.

[OngBonga]

Add to that the idea that it's only rigged when it shows your guy is losing and you've pretty much summed up the creed of the conspiracy nut club.

This is incredibly naive, if you're being serious.

The establishment are already accusing Trump of being a sore loser who is threatening "democracy". America has democracy? News to me.

The way HE was asked the question "will you accept the result" was loaded to fuck. If he says yes, when they fix it they have him on tape saying he'd accept it. And if he says "we'll see", then they accuse him of being undemocratic.

I notice they didn't ask Hillary the same question.

It should be obvious to everybody, including Hillary supporters, that the corporate media are doing their absolute utmost to ensure Hillary will win.

They're doing their best to fix it. The only way Trump can win this is if his maj is huge enough so they can't fix it.

[Poopadoop]

This is incredibly naive, if you're being serious.

The establishment are already accusing Trump of being a sore loser who is threatening "democracy". America has democracy? News to me.

Because that's how he looks. He starts losing in the polls and now he's suddenly starts spouting off about rigged this and rigged that. Have you heard how many things are supposedly in on the conspiracy? It's not just Hillary and the polls and the media and the women accusing him of sexual assault, it's corporate banks, the global power structure, etc..

The way HE was asked the question "will you accept the result" was loaded to fuck. If he says yes, when they fix it they have him on tape saying he'd accept it. And if he says "we'll see", then they accuse him of being undemocratic.

I notice they didn't ask Hillary the same question.

1. They asked HIM because HE'S the one who keeps saying it's rigged.
2. They don't ask Hillary because she doesn't say those things.

It should be obvious to everybody, including Hillary supporters, that the corporate media are doing their absolute utmost to ensure Hillary will win.

How so? By repeating things Trump says? Ya, that is pretty biased of them.

They're doing their best to fix it. The only way Trump can win this is if his maj is huge enough so they can't fix it.

I know right? They've even tried to undo the voter rights abuses in places like N. Carolina, where the state officials tried to limit the ability of black people to get to the polls. So unfair!