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[JKDS]

Marijuana, alcohol, and other substances that impair your ability to drive are illegal to use whike driving because they impair your ability to drive.

Even if MJ was legalized, using it while driving won't be permitted due to its effect on the body.

Coffee doesn't impair your ability to drive.

But the bigger issue with marijuana is this: since legalization in Colorado and elsewhere, more children have been hospitalized after MJ use. More students dropped out of high school. In addition, we are slowly learning that the super MJ that is currently bring produced does have adverse health effects. Contrary to popular belief, it appears that the stronger strains can be addictive as well.

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Marijuana, alcohol, and other substances that impair your ability to drive are illegal to use whike driving because they impair your ability to drive.

Even if MJ was legalized, using it while driving won't be permitted due to its effect on the body.

Coffee doesn't impair your ability to drive.

But the bigger issue with marijuana is this: since legalization in Colorado and elsewhere, more children have been hospitalized after MJ use. More students dropped out of high school. In addition, we are slowly learning that the super MJ that is currently bring produced does have adverse health effects. Contrary to popular belief, it appears that the stronger strains can be addictive as well.

I assume you are not for prohibition of alcohol. In light of your insistence that marijuana remain a controlled substance, can you explain how you can support the legal status of alcohol?

Further, all the negatives you've listed, have you properly weighed them? On balance, you're saying that legalization of weed is a net harm in CO? No war on drugs? Huge boon for taxes? Decreased rates of DUIs? Yeah, I'll take a few more HS dropouts and some potheads that are mildly addicted to weed.

[MadMojoMonkey]

But the bigger issue with marijuana is this: since legalization in Colorado and elsewhere, more children have been hospitalized after MJ use. More students dropped out of high school. In addition, we are slowly learning that the super MJ that is currently bring produced does have adverse health effects. Contrary to popular belief, it appears that the stronger strains can be addictive as well.

Wait... they were taken to the hospital by someone who didn't understand that there was no actual health risk, or they were taken to the hospital and the health workers affirmed that there was an actual reason for them to be in a hospital?

I've never heard of anyone needing medical attention because of MJ. Geez, in 2000, I was at Hempfest in Seattle and ate a, let's say special, brownie that seriously kicked my tail. I was nauseated and fatigued for about an hour or more (hard to tell time at a day fair). After that, I was fine. I drank plenty of water and enjoyed the shops and music of the festival. No hospitalization required. Just a good lay down and some long thoughts on the topics of mistake and regret.

Or do you mean... someone under the influence of MJ did something which injured another person, e.g. a driving accident.


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As to the rest, correlation is not causation. The way you've presented it doesn't demonstrate that these are dependent variables.

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People don't want to feel like I did at that day fair. They consume less of the modern stuff than the plate-fulls that were consumed in the 70's.

If it's addictive, then that's important news. I'm not sure it's a lynchpin argument to the legalization issue, though. AA, and whatnot. So the fact that it's addictive is not enough by itself to make it illegal.

[OngBonga]

Coffee doesn't impair your ability to drive.

Of course it can. It is a drug, it has effects, it can increase the heart rate, cause headache, nervousness, restlessness, stomach upset, nausea and vomiting. A single cup of coffee is likely to do very little, just as half a pint of guinness, or a few tokes on a spliff, have negligible effects on a person's ability to function. But many cups of coffee will indeed impair your ability to drive, if by impair we mean "reduce optimal performance".

But the bigger issue with marijuana is this: since legalization in Colorado and elsewhere, more children have been hospitalized after MJ use. More students dropped out of high school. In addition, we are slowly learning that the super MJ that is currently bring produced does have adverse health effects. Contrary to popular belief, it appears that the stronger strains can be addictive as well.

I don't think you'll find many people who smoke weed who think it doesn't have adverse health effects. The argument that most stoners make is that the effects are not as adverse as tobacco and alcohol. Furthermore, there are medical benefits which somewhat outweigh the adverse effects. The same can't be said of alcohol and baccy.

More kids have been hospitalised? Who the fuck gets hospitalised through smoking weed? What you're probably seeing there is more fucking idiots overreacting when they see a kid having a whitey. I do not know a single person who has ever had any kind of medical emergency through smoking weed. I've seen a few people turn white and go very quiet. The general reaction to someone having a whitey is to take the piss out of them. Worst that will happen is they'll throw up.

People are dropping out of college? Big fucking deal. That's hardly a reason to stop people smoking weed. Just means it's easier for those who don't drop out to get well paid jobs, since there are fewer graduates to challenge their qualifications.

Weed is addictive, yes. But it's not a physical addiction like heroin, it's largely psychological. I don't get twitchy, or moody, when I'm not stoned. It's addictive because it's nice, like tea is addictive, or chocolate. Dopamine is a powerful thing.