**** Elections thread *****

[a500lbgorilla]

I think the evidence doesn't really support her being photosensitive in the way some epileptics are (e.g., seizing to a strobe light). I think it more likely her reactions come from overstimulation in general. Note in the one video she suddenly has several questions shouted to her at once - this is auditory overstimulation, not visual. In the DNC video the overstimulation is again sudden but it's both visual and auditory (fireworks, balloons).

I think on reflection it's more likely she has some more general disorder like Parkinson's and the blue glasses are for that. My opinion may vary as new evidence comes in. However you slice it up though, sadly her brain is not working as it should.

Don't take it too far. She wore blue sunglasses, which is unique. Blue sunglasses are sometimes prescribed to treat some form of epilepsy.

You can wear blue sunglasses without a prescription. But a gambling man might put a few more chits on her being a sort of unhealthy.

Ceasar had problems with epilepsy; he managed.

[Poopadoop]

Actually I'm a bit unclear on whether she's been losing consciousness or just losing muscle control and falling down, or have both things been happening. Anyone know?

[wufwugy]

I do not think that distinction has been made yet. It is likely muscle control given that the many times she has displayed possible seizures they don't involve losing consciousness.

[Poopadoop]

Don't take it too far. She wore blue sunglasses, which is unique. Blue sunglasses are sometimes prescribed to treat some form of epilepsy.

You can wear blue sunglasses without a prescription. But a gambling man might put a few more chits on her being a sort of unhealthy.

Ceasar had problems with epilepsy; he managed.

You're saying the blue glasses MIGHT be for epilepsy. I'm saying they're likely NOT for epilepsy and if they have any relevance within the list of evidence it's that they're sometimes used to treat Parkinson's.

edit: I didn't say that exactly in the post you cited, so maybe that's the source of the confusion. I did post this link previously along with one about epilepsy when I was speculating on the glasses, however.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?...+parkinson%27s

[wufwugy]

As for the "why did they nominate Crooked?" thing, the Democrats doomed themselves with their SJW bullshit. The "first female president" became the zeitgeist. This gave Crooked uncountable advantages that, if she didn't have them, she would not have won the nomination.

[Poopadoop]

I do not think that distinction has been made yet. It is likely muscle control given that the many times she has displayed possible seizures they don't involve losing consciousness.

She's definitely been seen stumbling and I don't doubt there's issues with muscle control. I was more interested in whether her falls were associated with loss of consciousness or were just a loss of balance. I'm asking because if she's actually blacking out it's not something that would happen with Parkinson's but would suggest a problem with circulation of blood to or around the brain. That would be another serious problem.

edit: IOW, she could have Parkinson's and a circulation issue as well.

[wufwugy]

She's never lost consciousness on camera except possibly in the latest event where her back was to the camera*. It is likely this event was not loss of consciousness, but it is potentially the one time it could be.

*In a place with loads of press, camera phones from non-media are what catch the Crooked-dragged-into-van event. You could not powerbottom for the Democrats more than what our mainstream media does.

[Poopadoop]

It is a shame you can't see her face in that video. A frozen expression while she's falling down would pretty much confirm Parkinson's. Eyes rolling up in her head would confirm a blackout.

Can't wait to see what comes of all this, it's pretty fascinating to me. My fear is that she will drop out of the race due to 'exhaustion' or some other b.s. excuse they use to make it sound like they never knew she had a serious problem. If that happens we'll likely never know the truth.

[Savy]

Maybe her body double has parkinsons.

[wufwugy]

did u see this one

[wufwugy]

if she doesnt suffer from a medical condition im alfonso ribeiro.

[OngBonga]

Maybe her body double has parkinsons.

bink

[Poopadoop]

Maybe her body double has parkinsons.

Nah, her body double is ten pounds lighter, looks ten years younger, and said herself she felt great. No stumbling, no falling down. I think she's fine.

[OngBonga]

Honestly, I have some begrudging respect for her for (mostly) holding it together under such immense pressure, in her condition.

[Keith]

overstimulation could be interesting in the debates , trump could ask hilary a question whilst the host is also asking a question in order to try and stimulate this reaction, get some planted "audience" also shouting things out at the same time and scene is set.

[OngBonga]

Nah, her body double is ten pounds lighter, looks ten years younger, and said herself she felt great. No stumbling, no falling down. I think she's fine.

I think you missed his point.

Maybe her body double is ten pounds heavier, looks ten years older, and feels like shit.

[OngBonga]

overstimulation could be interesting in the debates , trump could ask hilary a question whilst the host is also asking a question in order to try and stimulate this reaction, get some planted "audience" also shouting things out at the same time and scene is set.

Yeah that would be a vote winner for sure. Trigger a seizure to prove she's ill.

Jesus fucking wept.

[Keith]

Honestly, I have some begrudging respect for her body double for holding it together under such immense pressure, in her condition.

FYP

[Savy]

did u see this one

Something happens in the crowd and she stops talking then gets told by her security that there isn't anything to worry about but they're not going to be able to remove the people in the crowd so she should continue as normal.

Am I getting trolled here and not realising it?

[OngBonga]

FYP

Oh yeah my mistake.

[Poopadoop]

did u see this one

I did and it's unclear why she needs coaching from her hired goon. I don't see anything definitive in her own behavior though.

[OngBonga]

Something happens in the crowd and she stops talking then gets told by her security that there isn't anything to worry about but they're not going to be able to remove the people in the crowd so she should continue as normal.

Am I getting trolled here and not realising it?

She says "keep talking" after being told to keep talking. Bitch is somewhere else, then gets it together.

I didn't watch it all, does she flip again?

[wufwugy]

Honestly, I have some begrudging respect for her for (mostly) holding it together under such immense pressure, in her condition.

Keep this in mind: she and her husband are serial criminals. Rapin' Bill has been abusing women for decades and Crooked's been covering it up. But that's not all Crooked and Rapin' Bill have been up to. They've been selling America to Islamists systematically with a smidgen to Russia.

This isn't just about power, it's about staying out of prison. The FBI is balls deep in the Clinton Foundation and if there is ever any justice it would come if Trump wins.

[Poopadoop]

I think you missed his point.

Maybe her body double is ten pounds heavier, looks ten years older, and feels like shit.

Yeah they really didn't think that one through did they. I mean sending the sick body double to the 9/11 ceremony on a blazing hot 25C day where she would pass out was just inexcusable on the part of her campaign team..

[Poopadoop]

overstimulation could be interesting in the debates , trump could ask hilary a question whilst the host is also asking a question in order to try and stimulate this reaction, get some planted "audience" also shouting things out at the same time and scene is set.

I wonder if two weeks is enough time for the body double to prepare for a debate?

[wufwugy]

I did and it's unclear why she needs coaching from her hired goon. I don't see anything definitive in her own behavior though.

IIRC this was the petit mal seizure thing. Triggered by fear and stuff. I don't recall if it's a part of Parkinson's.

[wufwugy]

I wonder if two weeks is enough time for the body double to prepare for a debate?

They thought they could just get away with feeding her the info through earpiece.

[Savy]

OMG look at that, parkinsons if I've ever seen it.

[Poopadoop]

Something happens in the crowd and she stops talking then gets told by her security that there isn't anything to worry about but they're not going to be able to remove the people in the crowd so she should continue as normal.

Am I getting trolled here and not realising it?

need a transcript here. I heard 'keep talking, we're not going anywhere, you can handle it'. what did others hear?

[OngBonga]

Keep this in mind: she and her husband are serial criminals. Rapin' Bill has been abusing women for decades and Crooked's been covering it up. But that's not all Crooked and Rapin' Bill have been up to. They've been selling America to Islamists systematically with a smidgen to Russia.

This isn't just about power, it's about staying out of prison. The FBI is balls deep in the Clinton Foundation and if there is ever any justice it would come if Trump wins.

Is a woman in her state of health really going to stand trial? That would take years, she hasn't got that long. Bill must be cracking on too, they won't ever go to prison, even if the attempt to put them away is sincere.

I'm aware of how nasty a woman she is, hence the "begrudging" respect. If she's terminally ill, well she's not showing any signs of depression or resignation to her fate, she's getting on with the show.

[Poopadoop]

IIRC this was the petit mal seizure thing. Triggered by fear and stuff. I don't recall if it's a part of Parkinson's.

It's possible she zones out a bit but it could be she's just giving someone a death stare. I can't really say. I don't think it's much as evidence goes to be honest.

[Savy]

need a transcript here. I heard 'keep talking, we're not going anywhere, you can handle it'. what did others hear?

Sounds like what was said to me too.

[OngBonga]

OMG look at that, parkinsons if I've ever seen it.

He's the fittest man of his age in the world, according to his doctor. He's harder than Chuck Norris.

[wufwugy]

Something happens in the crowd and she stops talking then gets told by her security that there isn't anything to worry about but they're not going to be able to remove the people in the crowd so she should continue as normal.

Am I getting trolled here and not realising it?

There's much more than that. The claim is that the behavior is typical of petit mal seizures. A sudden inability to function, often triggered by something sudden. Notice how she appears as if she is unable to even do anything until she is coached, and it takes a while of coaching, and she repeats everything the coach says. This particular coach has been photo'd elsewhere next to her potentially carrying diazepam (it's not confirmed but it looks like it).

[Poopadoop]

OMG look at that, parkinsons if I've ever seen it.

Absolutely. Apart from the lack of any other symptoms that is.

Stuttering alone is indicative of nothing. Many people have speech impediments their entire lives with no other neurological symptoms.

A bit different from someone with a list of symptoms that all suggest brain damage.

[Poopadoop]

Sounds like what was said to me too.

So the question is by 'we' does he mean her AND the goons or just 'us the goons'. The latter sounds like a parent comforting a child. The former sounds like a special ed teacher talking to a pupil.

[wufwugy]

There's a lot more to this stuff.

Like how these weird things started happening after she suffered a concussion. And how Chelsea's apartment is a care facility. And how they said she had pneumonia (contagious!) yet she was intently close to a child. I've forgotten lots of the Crooked's health stuff.

[Poopadoop]

There's much more than that. The claim is that the behavior is typical of petit mal seizures. A sudden inability to function, often triggered by something sudden. Notice how she appears as if she is unable to even do anything until she is coached, and it takes a while of coaching, and she repeats everything the coach says. This particular coach has been photo'd elsewhere next to her potentially carrying diazepam (it's not confirmed but it looks like it).

I mean you COULD argue she is having an absent seizure there. This is when the person essentially loses mental contact with the outside world. And that COULD be why the goons rush in. But you could also argue something happened in the crowd that seemed potentially threatening and her goons were responding to that. Personally I think she's not seizing here. She looks pretty aware of her surroundings and at the time of her longest immobility her eyes seem focused on something in the crowd.

As for that photo I think it's pure speculation what that thing is in his hand. It could be a syringe, but for all we know it doesn't have to be for her. And if it is, how are they going to inject her in the middle of a speech without anyone noticing? Also, it could just be a pen or something too.

[wufwugy]

Could be. I think the petit mal thing involves focusing on something.

I don't know. I'm just interested in calling a duck a duck. There is never this much smoke and no fire.

[Poopadoop]

There's a lot more to this stuff.

And how they said she had pneumonia (contagious!) yet she was intently close to a child.

Body double doesn't have pneumonia though, so kid should be fine. Also doesn't qualify for secret service protection apparently.

[a500lbgorilla]

Don't be this stupid.

Hillary didn't have an ear piece. If she did, and it was that obvious, there would be more photos. She had a shiny ear, check the other angles.

Yes, pooper, you ignored the blue sunglasses and instead keyed off on some gifs you saw on the internet to diagnose her with something else. Even the video where she's fainting doesn't seem to be anything more than a hardworking woman over extending herself after demonstrating a persistent cough for a few days all of which is congruent with pneumonia.

Whatever the fuck that black guy in a suit with a thing in his hand is, it's stupid bullshit as well.

Shape up.

[a500lbgorilla]

He's the fittest man of his age in the world, according to his doctor. He's harder than Chuck Norris.

If I had the vampyric power, I would legit steal his motor and sense of self-worth.

[wufwugy]

Don't be this stupid.

Hillary didn't have an ear piece. If she did, and it was that obvious, there would be more photos. She had a shiny ear, check the other angles.

I see. You're right. I tend to not care about this stuff so I never investigate it when I hear about it. Just popping in here since the topic is active.

[a500lbgorilla]

I see. You're right. I tend to not care about this stuff so I never investigate it when I hear about it. Just popping in here since the topic is active.

She's sick. But she isn't every kind of sick like anyone with an argument would like us to believe.

[wufwugy]

She's sick. But she isn't every kind of sick like anyone with an argument would like us to believe.

There are much better reasons to not like her.

[Poopadoop]

Could be. I think the petit mal thing involves focusing on something.

A person having a petit mal doesn't respond to anything. They're basically out of it. It's possible she had one but if she did it was very brief.

[wufwugy]

Crooked's replacement:

[Poopadoop]

Yes, pooper, you ignored the blue sunglasses and instead keyed off on some gifs you saw on the internet to diagnose her with something else. Even the video where she's fainting doesn't seem to be anything more than a hardworking woman over extending herself after demonstrating a persistent cough for a few days all of which is congruent with pneumonia.

Have you read anything I posted?

First, I didn't ignore the blue sunglasses, i was the first one here to bring them up. I posted links that they were used as treatments for people with epilepsy and people with Parkinson's. Also i've listed several reasons why she likely has a brain disorder, and why Parkinson's is a good candidate for what it is, based on my training in neuroscience.

Second, I haven't keyed off on any gifs. I've looked at video, and moreover, I've argued that some of those videos people are holding up as evidence for a brain disorder aren't convincing. I'm not taking sides here I'm trying to be objective.

Third, it's true you can interpret her collapse on 9/11 in several ways. I don't dispute that. I said it was consistent with a lot of other evidence for PD.

Finally, she hasn't been coughing 'for a few days'. She's been having coughing fits for years now. I also explained how that could be consistent with PD.

I understand it's not easy for a Hillary supporter to accept she might be seriously ill. I would much rather she wasn't. I'm only stating my opinions based on my training. You're free to disagree if you want.

[OngBonga]

All this Clinton nonsense is just a smokescreen to hide the real news. Shit is going down where my Mother lives...

http://www.malverngazette.co.uk/news...ern/?ref=fbshr

[wufwugy]

If she gets too ill she'll be replaced with a better candidate and we'll have something perhaps resembling competition instead of the crushing we have now.

[Poopadoop]

All this Clinton nonsense is just a smokescreen to hide the real news. Shit is going down where my Mother lives...

http://www.malverngazette.co.uk/news...ern/?ref=fbshr

I trust you've move your mother to somewhere safe?

[wufwugy]

"Squeeze my finger"? Parkinson's test?

[wufwugy]

Can't repost that nasty green glob hacking gif, but pneumonia caused by Parkinson's. Doctor's agree!

[a500lbgorilla]

Have you read anything I posted?

First, I didn't ignore the blue sunglasses, i was the first one here to bring them up. I posted links that they were used as treatments for people with epilepsy and people with Parkinson's. Also i've listed several reasons why she likely has a brain disorder, and why Parkinson's is a good candidate for what it is, based on my training in neuroscience.

Second, I haven't keyed off on any gifs. I've looked at video, and moreover, I've argued that some of those videos people are holding up as evidence for a brain disorder aren't convincing. I'm not taking sides here I'm trying to be objective.

Third, it's true you can interpret her collapse on 9/11 in several ways. I don't dispute that. I said it was consistent with a lot of other evidence for PD.

Finally, she hasn't been coughing 'for a few days'. She's been having coughing fits for years now. I also explained how that could be consistent with PD.

I understand it's not easy for a Hillary supporter to accept she might be seriously ill. I would much rather she wasn't. I'm only stating my opinions based on my training. What are your opinions based on?

No, I haven't

I think the evidence doesn't really support her being photosensitive in the way some epileptics are (e.g., seizing to a strobe light). I think it more likely her reactions come from overstimulation in general. Note in the one video she suddenly has several questions shouted to her at once - this is auditory overstimulation, not visual. In the DNC video the overstimulation is again sudden but it's both visual and auditory (fireworks, balloons).

I think on reflection it's more likely she has some more general disorder like Parkinson's and the blue glasses are for that. My opinion may vary as new evidence comes in. However you slice it up though, sadly her brain is not working as it should.

Video, gif, who cares? You're reaching.

Whatever you posted after this, I skipped because this is too dumb.

[Poopadoop]

"Squeeze my finger"? Parkinson's test?

I think that's her body double without the makeup.

[a500lbgorilla]

What is Parkinson's to you?

[wufwugy]

The sad thing about all this is that having Parkinson's actually shouldn't be a problem when it comes to the Presidency.

Sickness is the least of why Crooked needs to be no where near power.

[Poopadoop]

No, I haven't



Video, gif, who cares? You're reaching.

Whatever you posted after this, I skipped because this is too dumb.

So basically you don't want to believe it so you ignore it. And because a lot of people on the internet are being armchair neuroscientists someone with a degree in it can't possibly know what he's talking about. Ok then.

[a500lbgorilla]

If she gets too ill she'll be replaced with a better candidate and we'll have something perhaps resembling competition instead of the crushing we have now.

Her campaign has been over 2 years in the making. I wouldn't be surprised if this run was about 8 years in the making, or really 10 years.

There isn't a second round in the chamber, lol

She was supposed to be finish her second term by now.

[wufwugy]

What is Parkinson's to you?

I'm just lobbing shit. She could have PD or not have PD and I don't care. Its her policies and her zeitgeist I care about.

[Poopadoop]

What is Parkinson's to you?

Edit: never mind, i take it back.

[wufwugy]

Her campaign has been over 2 years in the making. I wouldn't be surprised if this run was about 8 years in the making, or really 10 years.

There isn't a second round in the chamber, lol

She was supposed to be finish her second term by now.

Probably more like 60 years in the making.

And a crushing nonetheless.

[a500lbgorilla]

I'm just lobbing shit. She could have PD or not have PD and I don't care. Its her policies and her zeitgeist I care about.

She has pneumonia, and she may have trouble with seizures. That's as far as I reach.

[a500lbgorilla]

Is that directed at me? Do you think I have time to sit down and type everything i've learned about PD in the last twenty years to you?

no. it was at wuf

[a500lbgorilla]

So basically you don't want to believe it so you ignore it. And because a lot of people on the internet are being armchair neuroscientists someone with a degree in it can't possibly know what he's talking about. Ok then.

Friend, follow me here.

She wore blue sunglasses, I take that as meaningful. She fainted during 9/11, I take that as meaningful.

What we make of these two plot points is up for debate, but you want to bring in all sorts of other nonsensical bullshit because you're dumb.

[Poopadoop]

no. it was at wuf

yes i figured that out. I apologise for getting snippy.

[wufwugy]

She has pneumonia, and she may have trouble with seizures. That's as far as I reach.

just wait till we get to the catheter.

[Poopadoop]

Friend, follow me here.

She wore blue sunglasses, I take that as meaningful. She fainted during 9/11, I take that as meaningful.

What we make of these two plot points is up for debate, but you want to bring in all sorts of other nonsensical bullshit because you're dumb.

Hahaha. Ok man, whatever.

[a500lbgorilla]

It is a shame you can't see her face in that video. A frozen expression while she's falling down would pretty much confirm Parkinson's. Eyes rolling up in her head would confirm a blackout.

http://www.pdf.org/en/diagnosis

:^)

[OngBonga]

I trust you've move your mother to somewhere safe?

She's going to stay indoors until they've caught the offenders. I'm taking her some supplies tomorrow. It's risky but it's my Mother, I'll take my chances.

[wufwugy]

It is not the case that because something can't be properly diagnosed from photos and videos that it cannot be evaluated.

[OngBonga]

rilla knows she's fucked but just won't admit it because he doesn't want to think about the implications.

[a500lbgorilla]

She's definitely been seen stumbling and I don't doubt there's issues with muscle control. I was more interested in whether her falls were associated with loss of consciousness or were just a loss of balance. I'm asking because if she's actually blacking out it's not something that would happen with Parkinson's but would suggest a problem with circulation of blood to or around the brain. That would be another serious problem.

edit: IOW, she could have Parkinson's and a circulation issue as well.

She's been stumbling.

Therefore, she has muscle control issues.

She may also has issues with losing consciousness, in which case, Parkinson's is likely.

She could have Parkinson's.

You think these things because you are dumb.

[a500lbgorilla]

It is not the case that because something can't be properly diagnosed from photos and videos that it cannot be evaluated.

It is overwhelmingly likely the case, though.

edit, maybe I don't follow you. It could be evaluated by real doctors, and not by us, yes.

[a500lbgorilla]

rilla knows she's fucked but just won't admit it because he doesn't want to think about the implications.

Trump will be for America what Dueterte is for the Philippines.

https://www.google.com/search?q=duet...utf-8&oe=utf-8