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    I think 3betting pre is a small mistake against a reg, but I guess it's possible he flats worse oop with the right dynamic. I'll 3bet QQ+ AK for value in these positions as standard, plus a bunch of suited aces and other hands I can't quite profitably call.

    Flop's an interesting one. Do we think it's a raise with the right reg on reg dynamic?

    On the river, would you assume most villain's aren't so tricky in this spot and just go bet/bet/bet for value? I mean we look capped at exactly what we are in this spot, so it seems a good spot to bluff. But then we block a bunch of his busted draws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bean Counter View Post
    I think 3betting pre is a small mistake against a reg, but I guess it's possible he flats worse oop with the right dynamic. I'll 3bet QQ+ AK for value in these positions as standard, plus a bunch of suited aces and other hands I can't quite profitably call.

    Flop's an interesting one. Do we think it's a raise with the right reg on reg dynamic?

    On the river, would you assume most villain's aren't so tricky in this spot and just go bet/bet/bet for value? I mean we look capped at exactly what we are in this spot, so it seems a good spot to bluff. But then we block a bunch of his busted draws.
    Flop probably depends more on your playing style than anything else. I raise that flop because people tend to think I am full of shit, so when I finally get a hand where I am likely ahead and at worst will hit my draw at least 1 in 3 times than I just don't have any problem putting my foot on the gas.

    River - I would think that most villains that bet, bet, check on that board are either going to check/fold or check/raise. Like I said before the check/call is going to come maybe from AJ/AT or from hands that have us beat like AK or weird 2 pair that got there. So it just seems like a bad place to bet for value especially when you took a pot control line by calling down flop and turn anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bean Counter View Post
    I think 3betting pre is a small mistake against a reg, but I guess it's possible he flats worse oop with the right dynamic. I'll 3bet QQ+ AK for value in these positions as standard, plus a bunch of suited aces and other hands I can't quite profitably call.
    I feel like when I show down AQs as a pre flop flat call on the button, I'm basically telling anyone who's paying attention that my 3bet raise is exactly as you described... QQ+ AK with some bluffs. This isn't the kind of range I want to have post flop in 3bet pots, my AK is going to find life very tough going against competent regs, and we're gonna get hurt by setminers. When I have a missed AK in a 3b pot on the button, I'd like to be able to bet Qxx flops with some credit, but I feel like this gets a lot tougher if we're flatting this and they know it.

    I get that flatting pre is certainly going to be +ev, but I can only be calling this as part of a fluid strategy to keep villains guessing. As standard, this is a 3bet for me against MP unless he's a nit or consistently outplaying me.

    I agree with everything chard has said about post flop. And calling pre is fine so long as you're 3betting this with at least some frequency and flatting to mix it up, at least in my opinion.
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