**** Elections thread *****

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I mean there is a much lower percentage of republicans who would vote clinton or sanders than who would ordinarily give the den a chance. Instead, every republican hates clinton and sanders both. They are not getting any republicans to switch to them...even if trump were to win the nomination

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I mean there is a much lower percentage of republicans who would vote clinton or sanders than who would ordinarily give the den a chance. Instead, every republican hates clinton and sanders both. They are not getting any republicans to switch to them...even if trump were to win the nomination

i think you'd be surprised.

there is more interest in the gop right now because there are so many more candidates, several of whom appeal to different people down the aisles. additionally, both clinton and sanders have crossover appeal, just among different groups. for example, sanders and trump would compete for a lot of the same low-education white northern men in ways that other candidates would not. this is because they're both a similar side of the nationalist protectionism that low-education white northern men care so much about. sanders also has a lot of crossover appeal among self-described libertarians. granted, these aren't libertarians who have much understanding of liberty. they're the ongbonga sort, actually. they can be described more as "lifestyle socialistic anarchists" or something. it's the crowd that thinks anarchism is more of a lifestyle than politics and they want the government out of things except for the great number of things that they consider just and moral.

also a ton of republicans would switch (or just stay home) if trump was the nominee. the establishment has considered doing something like running bush as an independent, who would switch back to republican in the 2020 primaries if he won the WH in 2016. this would be a very powerful strategy (if it was somebody like christie instead of bush) since the candidate would adopt all the centrist and non-controversial policies of the gop without any of the baggage of the bad ones. this would triangulate the democrats' center and take many votes. it would be possible to see many traditionally blue states turn independent for that cycle.

trump R, sanders D, christie I, could end up with christie I winning.