The Matrix Werewolf - Game Thread

[lilrascal]

PM me your night actions by 7PM on Thursday, 26 November.

Thread will reopen at 8PM on Thursday, 26 November. Due to the holiday and the weekend, D2 will end at 8PM on Sunday, 29 November.

While I agree with the sentiment of what was stated in post #598. Please be careful not to post after night has been declared.

Have a Happy Thanksgiving!

It is night, do not post.

[BankItDrew]

u said if he flips v, not w

I'm aware.

[BankItDrew]

Knock it off. You've been cool. Keep it cool.

This x 73842

[lilrascal]

BankItDrew has been modkilled.

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BankItDrew, You are Tank! You are a "natural" villager born outside of the Matrix and the "operator" of the{spam link}Nebuchadnezzar. You are a vanilla villager. You win when all threats to the village have been eliminated and there is at least one village player alive.

It is night, do not post.

[lilrascal]

bauidib has been killed.

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baudib, you are Morpheus! You are a villager freed from the Matrix, and captain of the Nebuchadnezzar. You win when all threats to the village have been eliminated and there is at least one village player alive.
You are the Village Tracker. Each night, you may investigate one player in the game and you will discover which player they targeted (if any). You win when all threats to the village have been eliminated and there is at least one village player alive.

It is night, do not post.

[lilrascal]

gabe has been killed.

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gabe, You are Apoc! You are a villager freed from the Matrix and a crew member on the Nebuchadnezzar. You are a vanilla villager. You win when all threats to the village have been eliminated and there is at least one village player alive.

It is night, do not post.

[lilrascal]

"The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work... when you go to church... when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth."

-Morpheus


Live Player List

a500lbgorilla
BooG690
GatorJH
Hoopy
JKDS
MadMojoMonkey
philly and the phanatics
SuperMonkeyFace
wufwugy

6 Villagers
3 Wolves

5 is MAJ. D2 Ends at 8:00 PM EST 29 November. Votes at :00 are good, :01 are bad.
Please stop posting at EOD even if I haven't declared it night.

IT IS DAY. YOU MAY POST.

[GatorJH]

Well that was about the worst night imaginable.

Thanks for the deadline extension rascal. We have our work cut out for us if we are going to keep the village win streak going and need all the time we can get to work this shit out.

I need to thoroughly look at how things turned at the end of D1 because at a quick glance something didn't feel right. For one Rilla going hard after Ong just isn't his style so he is at the top of my list. I also need to take a deeper look at mmm. His late D1 posting looks sketchy as hell. He votes for Ong then quickly rescinds and while stating he doesn't have confidence that Ong is a villager moves his vote to JKDS.

Fwiw, I think wuf was just being wuf there so his involvement in the whole thing is pretty neutral.

[MadMojoMonkey]

I'm here. What's on your mind?

The ong thing was because I can't read ong at all. I was feeling odd about him, which isn't itself odd. BID said he was thinking ong was wolfy and I ran with it. After only a short reflection, I realized that my vote on ong lacked my own conviction. So I detailed where I could place a vote based off of my own thoughts.

[GatorJH]

Can you show me this "conviction" for JKDS? The closest I can come is the below post, but even then you were more convinced about rilla than JKDS.

I'm trying to clear people as I can and figure out the ones that are left.probably villagers:baudibBIDboozhgatorhoopyongSMFskethcy MoFos:gabeJKDSphillyrillawufAmong the sketchy MoFos, I find gabe the one I'd be least likely to vote. Although the longer he camps his vote on me the more I feel like he should really be familiar with exactly where I'm at this game. *shrug* If you (ong) are asking me to prove myself, then maybe I'm being more lax than I think I am.{JKDS, philly, rilla, wuf} Although, my heart tells me that my gut is dumb and I should give philly a hug. I'm holding out for D2, but if he's hung up on factors outside of this thread, then he can't stay to end-game anyway.I don't know how the new wuf wolf howls, but sitting on the sidelines and saying nothing could be it if he's staunchly opposed to walls of text and trying to control the narrative now. I don't mind giving him to D2 as well.I'm fine with JKDS, rilla, or wuf. I prefer rilla over JKDS, but I agree with the assessment that JKDS is being a different kind of D1 wolfy from his usual (actually a villager) wolfy-looking self.lynch rilla

[MadMojoMonkey]

No one joined me on that vote for rilla and I even got some pushback, so I let it go. That vote wasn't going to be a wagon.

[MadMojoMonkey]

You're right that was the post I was thinking of when I said I detailed my thoughts. I thought it was later in the day.

Either way, voting to prevent gabe from getting lynched on D1 was a part of my decision at EOD.

[philly and the phanatics]

Hoopy with the chance to save ong there at the end.

I would really love to hear more from smf...he is criminally underposting.

Also gator, why the negativity, it's fairly wolfed out to try and instill negativity and chaos into the ethos of the village. Its true that we have to hit a wolf today but now we have a lot more info to go off of.

Im going to re read the thread with the new found context and I'll provide my thougts after

[a500lbgorilla]

Well that was about the worst night imaginable.

Thanks for the deadline extension rascal. We have our work cut out for us if we are going to keep the village win streak going and need all the time we can get to work this shit out.

I need to thoroughly look at how things turned at the end of D1 because at a quick glance something didn't feel right. For one Rilla going hard after Ong just isn't his style so he is at the top of my list. I also need to take a deeper look at mmm. His late D1 posting looks sketchy as hell. He votes for Ong then quickly rescinds and while stating he doesn't have confidence that Ong is a villager moves his vote to JKDS.

Fwiw, I think wuf was just being wuf there so his involvement in the whole thing is pretty neutral.

Oh yeah?

[a500lbgorilla]

Hoopy with the chance to save ong there at the end.

I would really love to hear more from smf...he is criminally underposting.

Also gator, why the negativity, it's fairly wolfed out to try and instill negativity and chaos into the ethos of the village. Its true that we have to hit a wolf today but now we have a lot more info to go off of.

Im going to re read the thread with the new found context and I'll provide my thougts after

I agree with this and in that spirit, he's BID's new official gif.

[Hoopy]

Hoopy with the chance to save ong there at the end.

I think it would have tied the votes and with ong reaching 4 first wouldn't have helped.

Also I meant to check the thread closer to deadline, but lost track of time playing Fallout 4.

[a500lbgorilla]

I think it would have tied the votes and with ong reaching 4 first wouldn't have helped.

Also I meant to check the thread closer to deadline, but lost track of time playing Fallout 4.

You tie the votes, someone else can shift over. What were you thinking at EOD yesterday?

[Hoopy]

Also gator, why the negativity, it's fairly wolfed out to try and instill negativity and chaos into the ethos of the village. Its true that we have to hit a wolf today but now we have a lot more info to go off of.

Im going to re read the thread with the new found context and I'll provide my thougts after

Actually we can miss today and still get one chance tomorrow if the vig does not fire again, which is clearly the right option after last night.

Just noticed baud was the tracker, fuckkkkkk.

[Hoopy]

You tie the votes, someone else can shift over. What were you thinking at EOD yesterday?

Both Ong & wuf were on my short list. 40mins before EOD I didn't really like the Ong wagon much but was already on the gabe wagon which was in 2nd. I didn't think it was possible to get another wagon going so close to deadline on thanksgiving.

I missed the last 40mins of the day.

[Hoopy]

rilla what do you think about Ong flipping villa?

[a500lbgorilla]

rilla what do you think about Ong flipping villa?

That I forgot the central element of wolf-hunting - get lucky. After missing Boog last game and Ong this game after being pretty convinced with myself, I've been humbled a bit.

I thought it was a good read, dunno how I got it wrong.

Who do you have as strong villager reads, hoops?

[Hoopy]

That I forgot the central element of wolf-hunting - get lucky. After missing Boog last game and Ong this game after being pretty convinced with myself, I've been humbled a bit.

I thought it was a good read, dunno how I got it wrong.

Who do you have as strong villager reads, hoops?

MMM - His posts read very honest to me. I haven't seen anything that looks wolfy or off. Best way I can express it is he seems to want to figure stuff out.

philly - Him not realizing the game isn't over if we miss today is villagery imo. Wolves usually know exactly what the state of play is, could be faking. But I empathize with his confusion so far.

boog - dude is challenging people on lots of stuff.

[Hoopy]

I'm going to recheck MMM's posts from late yesterday, don't want to just assume he's good.

[Hoopy]

I'm confident that gabe is V.

I have no confidence that either ong or JKDS is V, but they are not alone on that list.

SMF and philly are both lackluster.

I'm cool to CFD JKDS.

lynch JKDS

Mojo puts JKDS on 2 votes here, he switched from Ong who is confirmed villager. Ong led here with 4 votes with the voting being very tight.

He calls for a CFD on JKDS with 35mins left, JKDS was suspect throughout the day and the CFD could easily have been a runaway.

No way both JKDS and him are wolves together. We know now that gabe/ong were villagers, there is no benefit for the wolves to do this at EOD.

[Hoopy]

@wuf

@MMM

Same question, what do you think about Ong flipping villager?

[GatorJH]

Mojo puts JKDS on 2 votes here, he switched from Ong who is confirmed villager. Ong led here with 4 votes with the voting being very tight.

He calls for a CFD on JKDS with 35mins left, JKDS was suspect throughout the day and the CFD could easily have been a runaway.

No way both JKDS and him are wolves together. We know now that gabe/ong were villagers, there is no benefit for the wolves to do this at EOD.

Yeah, you are probably right here. Once he throws his vote to Ong he is linked to the wagon so it doesn't make a whole lot of sense, from a wolf perspective, to then shift away.

I have about a half hour to iso a few people but we at least need the following today:

SMF - you have to get in the game. We can't afford a policy lynch for non performers but also can't leave a total liability alive for end game. If you are a villager you are killing us.

JKDS - I get that you want to totally change up your style of posting because, like baud, your posts always seem wolfy, but you do need to pitch in and help here.

wuf - try to spread your focus around here. If you laser in on another villager (and your recent track record says you will) you could do more damage than help.

[GatorJH]

First ISO - Philly:

v - positives
His posts seem genuine to me for someone who is just getting back in the game. Below is an example: It feels like he is just honestly clarifying his posture instead of trying to position himself as a villager.

@boog This is different, before I was fencing by stating that I'm rusty and don't know the players and its d1 so info is limited.

Here I am saying that just because one comes up w doesn't necessarily mean that the other is v although it appears that way.

So the first time was to cover my ass as there is a high likelihood that I am wrong

The second is to ensure we do not let someone off the hook automatically

There is a difference DUCY?

@mmm I agree with the low probability of both being wolves i just find it hard to imagine both being villagers here

v - negatives
He said he read through the russia v america game, but his reads on it have been minimal.
He seemed to just focus on boog D1 and I would think someone just getting back in the game would be more spread out in their thoughts.

At the end of the day I still think Philly is 65-75% villager.

[GatorJH]

Hoopy - Not liking Hoopy at this point. Most of his posts have been eluding to people being wolves, which wolves tend to do. Below is a sampling:

This is damn wolfy.

In his defense what he was quoting from gabe did look pretty damn wolfy, but this would be the perfect oppty for a wolf to point out a villager being wolfy.

Do you think it's possible for drew to be a wolf?

Really?

Have we got to the point where all the wolves decide to act TWTBAW.

This is my list of people who I'd consider voting today.

BankItDrew
gabe
JKDS
OngBonga
SuperMonkeyFace
wufwugy

Consolidating our votes is probably a good idea. We're very spread out right now.

We already know that 2 of the 3 wagons were villagers and my guess is JKDS is villager as well so this seems to be very opportunistic.

With all of the above and his play at EOD I would say he is 65-70% wolf here.


I have to head out and be Dad for a while but hopefully will be able to ISO a couple of others before heading out to golf.

[wufwugy]

That I forgot the central element of wolf-hunting - get lucky. After missing Boog last game and Ong this game after being pretty convinced with myself, I've been humbled a bit.

I thought it was a good read, dunno how I got it wrong.

Who do you have as strong villager reads, hoops?

huh

are you really humbled? i see no reason to be humbled. im not sure why everybody is so damn results oriented in their thinking.

at least from my perspective, the way to see that ong wasn't a wolf there was that his play was so divergent from normal that he would have been likely cognizant of that fact as a wolf. ive seen him play the same way once before and i was quite surprised to see he flipped villager then. i guess it has to do with him just being moody or in a "dont care" element. so in that sense i guess i can see being humbled enough to see that twtbaw is really a thing.

[wufwugy]

this game has been a mess. at least the wolves will finally get a win

[wufwugy]

@wuf

@MMM

Same question, what do you think about Ong flipping villager?

everything has been v on v violence so far

[wufwugy]

dead thread is probably gonna be great. i can see a good mix of village bashing and hating on gabe. or it will just be baud saying how much he hates me. fwiw i like gabe's new thing, but clearly it was problematic to spring on us all of a sudden

[wufwugy]

end time is super pro wolf. not suggesting it should be changed because that's not fair, but very little is going to happen before now and eod sunday. i guess it means that to win this we have to work for it.

[MadMojoMonkey]

@wuf

@MMM

Same question, what do you think about Ong flipping villager?

His "Oh dear" response to my vote on him gave me a biting gut suspicion that he was villager.

It seemed totally out of character to the ong-wolf I've battled with in the past.

[MadMojoMonkey]

@wuf: 5 posts and not one read or question. What, exactly are you hunting, wuf?

You're sketchy as anything this game and def. still not remotely cleared by me.


lynch wufwugy

[MadMojoMonkey]

BID's new official gif.

This x 73842

[MadMojoMonkey]

@rilla: is that all you got?

[Hoopy]

With all of the above and his play at EOD I would say he is 65-70% wolf here.

There's no way I make that deadline post as a wolf.

[Hoopy]

D1 FINAL VOTE COUNT

OngBonga - 4 (a500lbgorilla [374], BankItDrew [492], gabe [389], wufwugy [475])
wufwugy - 3 (GatorJH [382], OngBonga [576], philly and the phanatics [484])
gabe - 2 (baudib [446], Hoopy [388])
JKDS - 2 (BooG690 [481], MadMojoMonkey [524])
BankItDrew - 1 (JKDS [318])
BooG690 - 1 (SuperMonkeyFace [266])

Hmmm I wonder if the wolves would avoid pairing up on any wagon with the voting being so tight.

[Hoopy]

If anyone's interested, I'd be willing to lynch SMF.

Maybe we should listen to the dead guy.

[a500lbgorilla]

@rilla: is that all you got?

Still waiting on SMF and JKDS to declare where they're at. As well as waiting on Boog to decide if he's gonna lead.

What would you like to know?

I'll even give you a freebie, I really don't think wufwugy is a wolf.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Still waiting on SMF and JKDS to declare where they're at. As well as waiting on Boog to decide if he's gonna lead.

Excuses are wolfy.

What would you like to know?

I'll even give you a freebie, I really don't think wufwugy is a wolf.

Let's start here.

Why is wufwugy a villager?
Give me something I can confirm and not just, "I got this feeling."

[MadMojoMonkey]

Maybe we should listen to the dead guy.

If you want to target SMF, this piece of information can only be a part of your greater read.

[a500lbgorilla]

VOTE COUNT - Posts 1 thru 462

gabe - 3 (Hoopy [388], OngBonga [392], baudib [446])
JKDS - 2 (wufwugy [324], BankItDrew [341])
OngBonga - 2 (a500lbgorilla [374], gabe [389])
BooG690 - 1 (SuperMonkeyFace [266])
BankItDrew - 1 (JKDS [318])
wufwugy - 1 (GatorJH [382])
philly and the phanatics - 1 (BooG690 [443])

Not Voting - 1 (philly and the phanatics [0])
Unvote - 1 (MadMojoMonkey [413])


7 is MAJ. D1 Ends at 8:00 PM EST 25 November. Votes at :00 are good, :01 are bad.
Please stop posting at EOD even if I haven't declared it night.

Note: Numbers in brackets are the post number for the vote. Please let me know if I missed any votes so I can correct my spreadsheet.

EOD is in just over 4 hours.

The count before wuf moves to Ong. Why stand in front of the village and push for Ong when there are so many lazier options? Me, Gator, JKDS, SMF, we were all on set-it-and-forget-it votes. Wuf was too.

Not only does he stand out front, but he campaigns. Aside from that, like I said, I thought it was a good read, so did gabe, so did BID, so did wuf.

[wufwugy]

@wuf: 5 posts and not one read or question. What, exactly are you hunting, wuf?

You're sketchy as anything this game and def. still not remotely cleared by me.


lynch wufwugy

i know exactly who im gonna bold but i think it works better when others give their opinions and i respond instead of me leading the day again

[JKDS]

How am I not dead? I got to like 5 and then fucked off. Now I feel bad for not asking to be subbed

[JKDS]

Wuf-rilla-smf?

[JKDS]

Dont think mmm gets mad if he's a wolf. Insultong reads doesn't make you angry if they're fake reads

[JKDS]

Again, gator doesn't rescind for the reasons he did if he's a wolf. Doesn't make sense.

I kinda like hoops posts too

[JKDS]

Hell, maybe it's boog instead. He looks wolfy, and not in the boog is always wolfy sort of way. Maybe I'm wrong on smf?

Wuf is wolfy for his posts about me and his attacks and such. Rilla hasn't won the game yet, unfair to him...but the last 3 games as villa he nailed almost the entire team.

[Hoopy]

If you want to target SMF, this piece of information can only be a part of your greater read.

Indeed. He's been lurking with minimal content so far, most of the people he attacked/pushed have flipped village.

[Hoopy]

everything has been v on v violence so far

So you think rilla is a villager then?

[wufwugy]

So you think rilla is a villager then?

im inclined to lean that way. i see him using logic and evidence to come to his conclusions

[SuperMonkeyFace]

Working for the next 6 hours. Skimmed most of the day..

Mmm intro into today felt wolfy for whatever reason

I should be around tonight if I don't go out with friends.. If not I'll give the thread a really good read through and be active tomorrow

The reason I've been slanking is because I haven't given the thread a good full read so I don't wanna start giving joy takes with no real info

I'm a slow starter.. That hasn't changed since game 1 here but don't lose faith in me

[SuperMonkeyFace]

im inclined to lean that way. i see him using logic and evidence to come to his conclusions

This post feels weird coming from wuf. And I've yet to see him wolf

[lilrascal]

DAY 2 VOTE COUNT - Posts 607 thru 655

wufwugy - 1 (MadMojoMonkey [635])

Not Voting - 8 (a500lbgorilla [0], BooG690 [0], GatorJH [0], Hoopy [0], JKDS [0], philly and the phanatics [0], SuperMonkeyFace [0], wufwugy [0])


5 is MAJ. D2 Ends at 8:00 PM EST 29 November. Votes at :00 are good, :01 are bad.
Please stop posting at EOD even if I haven't declared it night.

Note: Numbers in brackets are the post number for the vote. Please let me know if I missed any votes so I can correct my spreadsheet.

[a500lbgorilla]

So philly and SMF are still stuck on day 1?

[Hoopy]

I'm a slow starter.. That hasn't changed since game 1 here but don't lose faith in me

Thing is we're already in the midgame. Tomorrow will be lynch or lose if today doesn't net a wolf.

You need to step it up dude.

lynch SuperMonkeyFace

[Hoopy]

So philly and SMF are still stuck on day 1?

BooG as well.

[a500lbgorilla]

I'll cast my lot with lynch JKDS

[Hoopy]

philly voted for wuf yesterday then said he probably wouldn't be back for EOD. Would a wolf leave a vote on a fellow wolf with voting being so close?

[MadMojoMonkey]

I'm more inclined to lynch SMF among the top suspects as of now. (His soft push on me is only a small factor in this.)

I'm reading boog, Gator, and Hoopy as near lock V so far. Philly is still exactly neutral.

wolfy:
a500lbgorilla
JKDS
SuperMonkeyFace
wufwugy

JKDS has me in a difficult spot. My wolf list makes no sense, given that JKDS has the other 3 as his wolf list. JKDS bussing both of his wolf buddies on early D2 doesn't fit the mold. My wolf list is not good.

@JKDS: Which of your reads are your strongest right now? Which have you a bit uncertain?

If no one is joining me on wuf, then I think rilla and SMF are the top choices. I prefer rilla.

lynch rilla

***

@boog, gator, hoopy: Are you clearing rilla as a V?
He hasn't convinced me of one aspect of this game that I've been missing.

[BooG690]

I'm reading boog, Gator, and Hoopy as near lock V so far. Philly is still exactly neutral.

How is Hoopy close to lock villager? He hasn't posted much content and he had an odd EOD last night. I like him on a { philly, Wuf, Hoopy } team.

@boog, gator, hoopy: Are you clearing rilla as a V?
He hasn't convinced me of one aspect of this game that I've been missing.

He's not cleared in the same way you aren't cleared. The only player I have practically cleared is Gator.

philly voted for wuf yesterday then said he probably wouldn't be back for EOD. Would a wolf leave a vote on a fellow wolf with voting being so close?

You speak with 100% certainty that Wuf is a wolf. How can you speak with such certainty?

[philly and the phanatics]

holiday weekends gonna holiday weekend...i'm here now, and besides an imminent nap i should be here most of the night as i will be watching my noles slay gator's gators. Got any predictions GatorJH? If i put the over/under on Dalvin rushing yards at 125 are you really taking the under there?

I digress.

@gator, the reason for me barking up the boog tree is simple, he acted wolfy right off the bat by going after an easy target (someone spazzy that turned out to be a villager) and once he realized that he was going to get some heat for it, he snap reneged. He is continually pushing for my lynch (another easy target and another villager) because i fenced? Ong ( a villager) pointed out a couple of instances of inconsistencies in his tone as well. The majority of the village has cleared him as a villager, so i will relax for the time being and stop being so myopic.

On the other hand boog brings up a great point about a potential Hoopy slip.

Shit I don't know if a wuf lynch is better.

This was made right at the buzzer, with a chance for him to save Ong. If Hoopy does come up a wolf, i would be fairly certain that wuf is as well.

Actually we can miss today and still get one chance tomorrow if the vig does not fire again, which is clearly the right option after last night.

Just noticed baud was the tracker, fuckkkkkk.

philly - Him not realizing the game isn't over if we miss today is villagery imo. Wolves usually know exactly what the state of play is, could be faking. But I empathize with his confusion so far.

He claims wolves know exactly what the state of play is, and then boom he knew exactly what the state of play was. This is somewhat weak by itself, but coupled with the potential wuf slip, the sitting back and just asking questions like "rilla what do you think?" while not really contributing all day 1, makes me think we may have a wolf.

Now that at least 2 of the wagoners on the JKDS train have come up villager, I think that its safe to take him out of my lock villager pile. His logic regarding mmm seems sound to me and i have mmm as one of my villager leans, but this observation is not indicative of alignment

SMF has still not contributed a lick. Reminds me of Flomo when he was a wolf who just hung around not posting shit and just "oh hey guys, my bad, here's a meaningless bold"

As for wuf, i kind of agree with rilla, it would be tough for him to be campaigning the way he would on day 1, but if Hoopy flips W, i think that condemns wuf.

Rilla
As of now

Villager lean-
mmm
gator

neutral
jkds
wuf
rilla
smf

wolf
hoopy
Boog

I also think its weird that all 3 of the votes have been cast for at least a few hours and nobody has jumped on. This makes me hopeful that one of the people bolded is a wolf.

[philly and the phanatics]

actually the more i think about it, its somewhat unlikely that Hoopy would even comment and damn himself like that at the EOD, it was already clear Bongo was going down, theres no reason to stick your head out and draw any attention to yourself as a wolf.

[philly and the phanatics]

the wuf ong back and forth is looking more and more v on v to me, despite the fact that wuf has come in saying we are fucked ("welll looks like wolves are gonna win") and he hasnt really provided a lot of insight today. I still think that back and forth probably clears him a lot more than being on the JKDS wagon condemns him.

[philly and the phanatics]

I think SMF's bolding of boog with next to no attention on Boog (aside from my crowing) is extremely lazy. He has gone out of his way not to get any attention by not posting, and now he has gone out of his way to avoid attention by casting a meaningless vote on someone who is not even being discussed as a potential day 1 lynch by anyone else (again aside from me)

[MadMojoMonkey]

How is Hoopy close to lock villager? He hasn't posted much content and he had an odd EOD last night. I like him on a { philly, Wuf, Hoopy } team.

His post 624 is showing capable villager knees.

I don't think Hoopy-wolf tries to pocket me in that way.

He's not cleared in the same way you aren't cleared. The only player I have practically cleared is Gator.

[MadMojoMonkey]

@philly: so that list of yours, was rilla at the top in the villager camp, or did you start to write a review of rilla and then instead move on to the list?

Your list has hoopy in the wolf pile, but then you double-take on one of your reads on him, saying it was more villagery than wolfy.

Where is he now?

Even before then, you have only 2 wolves (and I think you whiffed both of them).

Who among your neutral pile is showing weak evidence of trying to solve the game?

[philly and the phanatics]

I got a phone call and got distracted... Thought I finished it... Rilla seems more villa to me just based on previous games and he's not playing like he did in Russia v America (he as a wolf) imo but I'm keeping him neutral because he spearheaded the ong lynch

I think I would put smf in the wolf pile instead of hoppy and put hoops neutral... Jkds and wuf are both showing minimal evidence of solving the game (aside from EOD wuf d1) but I'd put wuf more of a village lean and jkds closer to a wolf one. The reason for my flip on jkds is that two of his wagoners have come up v and the other (wuf) has decent villager evidence. That coupled with his minimal contribution to solving the problem gives me a slight wolf lean

[BooG690]

@gator, the reason for me barking up the boog tree is simple, he acted wolfy right off the bat by going after an easy target (someone spazzy that turned out to be a villager) and once he realized that he was going to get some heat for it, he snap reneged. He is continually pushing for my lynch (another easy target and another villager) because i fenced? Ong ( a villager) pointed out a couple of instances of inconsistencies in his tone as well. The majority of the village has cleared him as a villager, so i will relax for the time being and stop being so myopic.

Ong lacked conviction in his tone. You lack conviction in your CONTENT. There's a huge difference there and this wall of nonsense you posted is a great example.

He claims wolves know exactly what the state of play is, and then boom he knew exactly what the state of play was. This is somewhat weak by itself, but coupled with the potential wuf slip, the sitting back and just asking questions like "rilla what do you think?" while not really contributing all day 1, makes me think we may have a wolf.

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Here, you say you feel Hoopy is a wolf.

actually the more i think about it, its somewhat unlikely that Hoopy would even comment and damn himself like that at the EOD, it was already clear Bongo was going down, theres no reason to stick your head out and draw any attention to yourself as a wolf.

And then you write this TWO minutes later. It's impossible for anyone to know who you think is a wolf with this lack of consistency. So, please, don't compare your inconsistencies to the inconsistencies that got Ong lynched. Inconsistency in tone and inconsistency in content are two totally different things with the latter being a ton more wolfy. Also, it's a transparent wolf defense to compare yourself to a dead villager. Step your wolf game up.

I'm ready to lynch you. Lynch Philly

[wufwugy]

okay so it's time to get rolling. jkds is heavily in his wolf range and quite outside his v range. his play is similar to how he could as a wolf, but quite dissimilar to his likely play as a villager. on top of that, he has said many things (not just several, but many) that are very unvillage in thought process. it's almost as if he's trolling, saying things that are pretty blatantly wrong or bad logic. additionally, his sheer lack of investigativeness is VERY telling. we all know from experience that his v game is much different than this, and even he has claimed such several times in the past.

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[BooG690]

I think I would put smf in the wolf pile instead of hoppy and put hoops neutral... Jkds and wuf are both showing minimal evidence of solving the game (aside from EOD wuf d1) but I'd put wuf more of a village lean and jkds closer to a wolf one. The reason for my flip on jkds is that two of his wagoners have come up v and the other (wuf) has decent villager evidence. That coupled with his minimal contribution to solving the problem gives me a slight wolf lean

So, let me get this straight (we all know how difficult it is to pinpoint what you're thinking), you think the wolves are me, SMF and JKDS (the person who I parked my vote on last night)?

[philly and the phanatics]

You misread it... I am saying ong noticed inconsistencies in your tone...also I wrote the hoopy part a good twenty mintutes before I posted and typing out the rest kind of helped clarify my thoughts

[philly and the phanatics]

im in no way solidifying you guys as a wolf team I just think it's most likely that we find a wolf in those three players...it's not an "if boogs a wolf then x is a wolf" it's a "these players have all done things to lead me to believe they are wolves"