Russians vs. Americans: A Werewolf Game for October 2015

[Top Tier Tom]

Beck, I could use an assist. Which two players have the highest chances of flipping wolf IYO?

[OngBonga]

I think he's a mf'ing wolf but no one agrees with me and D1 ends in a handful of hours so...

I have a perfect track record of reading ong for I don't know how many games in a row. Clearly my 'stupid image' is still prevalent in the minds of FTR regs though because they are completely ignoring my success rate. It's very disappointing.

I feel like I won't get any respect from the regs unless I play well but then when I wtfpwn a player for over a year - no one bats an eye.

This post is really bugging me because it feels sincere. I don't credit drew for being all that good at disguising his lack of sincerity when he's a wolf.

But that sig brag. That's what I expect from drew wolf. Sloppy pov slips. Didn't he once literally arrroooo in the thread when he was alive? Or am I imagining that?

[Beck Novo]

So, right now, I would like to not lynch these players:

v
Beck
HiFi
Tom
MMM
rascal
gabe
Luco
Kami

For some reason I want to lynch JKDS, Drew, and Gizmo. Mostly cause of feels and vibes and stuff but I'm unsure.

Then there are some players that I can't quite grasp yet. And there are a lot of slankers, which is annoying.

[BankItDrew]

I like beck.

Hes absolutely right, drew why would you self pres with over 9 hrs left?

1) I can't participate after one hour from now.
2) Ong is the only player I and very suspicious of.
3) No one else was on the ong train other than myself when I rescinded.
4) I was tied for the top train.
5) I'm a villager.

How is this so difficult for people to understand?

Beck, I really hate it when people say things like "I'm firm on my stance, I don't care what anyone says". You're shutting down discussion, or at least attempting to when you say that. I could understand more, but not entirely, if you said it about something that has scientific consensus but this isn't the case.

[Beck Novo]

Beck, I could use an assist. Which two players have the highest chances of flipping wolf IYO?

I will answer this in a few minutes, going to give the last two/three pages another skim.

[BankItDrew]

But that sig brag. That's what I expect from drew wolf. Sloppy pov slips. Didn't he once literally arrroooo in the thread when he was alive? Or am I imagining that?

Please don't make shit up.

[Beck Novo]

1) I can't participate after one hour from now.
2) Ong is the only player I and very suspicious of.
3) No one else was on the ong train other than myself when I rescinded.
4) I was tied for the top train.
5) I'm a villager.

How is this so difficult for people to understand?

Beck, I really hate it when people say things like "I'm firm on my stance, I don't care what anyone says". You're shutting down discussion, or at least attempting to when you say that. I could understand more, but not entirely, if you said it about something that has scientific consensus but this isn't the case.

I did not know that you could not participate any longer after the next hour. So I suppose my point is moot here. But in a vacuum your vote was not villagery, so I stand by my original point.

If not Ong, then who? There's no reason to settle for second best, especially if you believe that your counter-wagon is villager in your eyes. I believe you're more likely to be a villager than Ong, but I need a little bit more.

[OngBonga]

I might be making that up. But you definitely once posted something in the wrong private thread. You have form for derping.

[Luco]

1) I can't participate after one hour from now.
2) Ong is the only player I and very suspicious of.
3) No one else was on the ong train other than myself when I rescinded.
4) I was tied for the top train.
5) I'm a villager.

How is this so difficult for people to understand?

Beck, I really hate it when people say things like "I'm firm on my stance, I don't care what anyone says". You're shutting down discussion, or at least attempting to when you say that. I could understand more, but not entirely, if you said it about something that has scientific consensus but this isn't the case.

Had you stated 1/ before this post? If you did I missed it

[Beck Novo]

Beck, I could use an assist. Which two players have the highest chances of flipping wolf IYO?

Okay. I would have to say rilla and JKDS.

rilla hasn't said anything that's made me think he's a villager and JKDS has only honestly defended a villager (which anyone can do as a wolf). So yeah, this is kind of where I'm at.

[BankItDrew]

I did not know that you could not participate any longer after the next hour. So I suppose my point is moot here. But in a vacuum your vote was not villagery, so I stand by my original point.

If not Ong, then who?

Kami.

1) Her posts are short, infrequent, and lacking substance. This may only be the second time I've played with her but it's consistent with her wolf game last time.
2) I predict no value coming from kami as a villager in the later stages of the game for the reasons I already mentioned.
3) Kami targeted someone who was appeared as town, for what reason, exactly? Because she doesn't like it when players receive town cred?

[BankItDrew]

Had you stated 1/ before this post? If you did I missed it

No

[Beck Novo]

lynch shipitup

Because lying and avoiding participation.

Where did SIU lie? How did you know that it was a lie?

I thought SIU said that he was busy today, so we're forced to believe this excuse. Why vote him still?

[Luco]

This post is really bugging me because it feels sincere. I don't credit drew for being all that good at disguising his lack of sincerity when he's a wolf.

But that sig brag. That's what I expect from drew wolf. Sloppy pov slips. Didn't he once literally arrroooo in the thread when he was alive? Or am I imagining that?

Ong, didnt you say that drew tries harder as a villager and wants to be respected?

Because im seeing that in spades from him so far. Not playing to his derpy persona at all

[OngBonga]

lol drew thinks kami is next most likely to be a wolf after me.

So why did he vote aubrey, who he thinks is a villager, rather than kami, who remains a wagon?

[OngBonga]

Ong, didnt you say that drew tries harder as a villager and wants to be respected?

Because im seeing that in spades from him so far. Not playing to his derpy persona at all

I'm seeing drew dropping pov slips and making no sense with his reads.

[OngBonga]

Aubrey is a wolf more often than kami but I don't see the rilla hate.

I defended him earlier with reasons about 12 hours ago and he hasn't changed my mind since then.

derp

[Beck Novo]

Kami.

1) Her posts are short, infrequent, and lacking substance. This may only be the second time I've played with her but it's consistent with her wolf game last time.
2) I predict no value coming from kami as a villager in the later stages of the game for the reasons I already mentioned.
3) Kami targeted someone who was appeared as town, for what reason, exactly? Because she doesn't like it when players receive town cred?

Well if this is really what you believe (and I think it is) then I can't blame you. But I've seen Kami play this same game as a villager. I believe she's a villager here but I also don't want to post to her if she's a wolf. Either way I don't think she's the most likely to flip wolf here.

And also, just looking at the number of players willing to vote for her also leads me to believe that she's likely >>rand villager. Hmph.

[BankItDrew]

lol drew thinks kami is next most likely to be a wolf after me.

So why did he vote aubrey, who he thinks is a villager, rather than kami, who remains a wagon?

I didn't put any thought into it! Now that I have, while looking like a schmuck, I'll change it lol

rescind
lynch kami

[Beck Novo]

lose to her*

[NightGizmo]

Well, take 1 minute and tell us why you're voting for Tom.

I already explained it bruh

He bolded Tom in post 577:

Top Tier Tom

Bae sponge

No explanation before or after.

[Beck Novo]

I didn't put any thought into it! Now that I have, while looking like a schmuck, I'll change it lol

rescind
lynch kami

Were you going to vote for Kami again on your own or did Ong force your hand?

[BooG690]

Ong, didnt you say that drew tries harder as a villager and wants to be respected?

Because im seeing that in spades from him so far. Not playing to his derpy persona at all

BID not derpy? Are you reading the same thread?

[BankItDrew]

Were you going to vote for Kami again on your own or did Ong force your hand?

Again? I don't follow.

[Beck Novo]

No

Wait, so you never said this? Then why say this:

Everyone is probably a villager. Do you do math?

[Luco]

BID not derpy? Are you reading the same thread?

I never said he wasn't derpy.

When wolf he plays on it more

[BankItDrew]

Because everyone, individually, is probably a villager.

[Beck Novo]

Again? I don't follow.

You made your case against Kami, which was fair (from your POV). But you don't vote for her. Then Ong asks why you didn't vote for her. Then you vote for her. This is what happened.

So I'm wondering if you were going to vote her all along, or if Ong put you in an awkward position forcing you to follow up and vote.

Because it seems like the latter in this case.

[Beck Novo]

Because everyone, individually, is probably a villager.

Why not just explain your future absence, then? I was missing a piece of the puzzle and you didn't explain yourself.

[BankItDrew]

You made your case against Kami, which was fair (from your POV). But you don't vote for her. Then Ong asks why you didn't vote for her. Then you vote for her. This is what happened.

So I'm wondering if you were going to vote her all along, or if Ong put you in an awkward position forcing you to follow up and vote.

Because it seems like the latter in this case.

The latter is certainly the case.

[Beck Novo]

Taking a step back for a bit, I'm starting to tunnel.

[Beck Novo]

The latter is certainly the case.

So why did you need the extra push? I can't imagine that you forgot to vote for the player you just made a case against.

[BankItDrew]

Why not just explain your future absence, then? I was missing a piece of the puzzle and you didn't explain yourself.

I don't think the reason for me not sharing my absence during a specific portion of the game matters.

I didn't think of it?
I didn't think it mattered?

Probably a combo of those two.

[BankItDrew]

So why did you need the extra push? I can't imagine that you forgot to vote for the player you just made a case against.

Ohhhhhh

I actually didn't notice kami was at the top of the pile when I made my argument against her.

It was a derp moment.

[OngBonga]

So why did you need the extra push? I can't imagine that you forgot to vote for the player you just made a case against.

It's not that he forgot to vote for her. The problem is that when he "reluctantly" voted for aubrey, he said he thinks she's a villager. THAT'S when he should have voted for kami, if he's being honest about his reads.

[BankItDrew]

I've had zero success when starting wagons.

No one ever follows my lead.

[BankItDrew]

It's not that he forgot to vote for her. The problem is that when he "reluctantly" voted for aubrey, he said he thinks she's a villager. THAT'S when he should have voted for kami, if he's being honest about his reads.

I didn't notice kami had a bumch of votes. I thought it was mainly aubrey.

[OngBonga]

rescind
lynch aubrey

It doesn't seem like anyone wants to lynch ong and my train is building steam so in an act of self-preservation I'll reluctantly vote aubrey.

FWIW though, she's probably a villager and I don't think there is anything to the 'who is Tom?' thing.

Why if he thinks kami is wolfy does he vote for aubrey here? If he thinks aubrey is wolfy too, then fine. But he clearly says here he expects her to flip villager.

[OngBonga]

I didn't notice kami had a bumch of votes. I thought it was mainly aubrey.

Not buying it.

[Luco]

Drew youre derping yourself into a corner here.

[BankItDrew]

Not buying it.

It's true.

[BankItDrew]

Drew youre derping yourself into a corner here.

Yeah I can see that.

[Luco]

I dont like a drew lynch.

[NightGizmo]

I didn't notice kami had a bumch of votes. I thought it was mainly aubrey.

Interesting, I didn't notice you did that. You changed your vote to Aubrey 3 posts after Baudib's vote count, which clearly showed you, Aubrey, and Kami tied with 4 votes each.

Now I have to decide if I want to change my vote off shipitup....

[Luco]

Kami v rilla?

Im on the fence on aubrey

[SuperMonkeyFace]

It's coming

[NightGizmo]

I still like my vote on shipitup better than drew. It's been a long time, but in previous games together drew was ... unpredictable. It wouldn't surprise me if a villager-drew would make that mistake. This isn't a good sign for him, but at least he's posting. Shipitup is trying to skate by with minimum posts, zero content, and bullshit responses, which makes me think he's much more likely a wolf.

And a contributing player provides a lot more info to the village, which is what we need.

[SuperMonkeyFace]

Side thought. Who rekt wolves last game? Ong was mod, rilla destroyed baudib, and bid destroyed someone too.. Was it baudib or jkds? Am I missing someone? Other than me wrecking wolves at night time

Just wondering so when I reread some more I can kinda rmemwber that wreckage and feed off of it

[NightGizmo]

Oh, hey! I passed 1000 posts!

[BankItDrew]

I still like my vote on shipitup better than drew. It's been a long time, but in previous games together drew was ... unpredictable. It wouldn't surprise me if a villager-drew would make that mistake. This isn't a good sign for him, but at least he's posting. Shipitup is trying to skate by with minimum posts, zero content, and bullshit responses, which makes me think he's much more likely a wolf.

And a contributing player provides a lot more info to the village, which is what we need.

Thank you.

I may contradict myself and derp all game but at least I'm participating as much as I possibly can.

[BankItDrew]

Side thought. Who rekt wolves last game? Ong was mod, rilla destroyed baudib, and bid destroyed someone too.. Was it baudib or jkds? Am I missing someone? Other than me wrecking wolves at night time

Just wondering so when I reread some more I can kinda rmemwber that wreckage and feed off of it

This is lazy imo

[Kami]

Lol ong is wrong when I was wolf I didn't purpose target people everyone thought was villagery except luco because I had to

[Beck Novo]

If one of Ong and BID are a wolf, then it's Ong. But I'm not certain of Ong yet, either.

Drew and Ong, thoughts on rilla?

[BankItDrew]

Lol ong is wrong when I was wolf I didn't purpose target people everyone thought was villagery except luco because I had to

Chewba Chews are back

come again?

[Kami]

Also ship isn't lying he's gonna be busy till like 10pm

[Beck Novo]

Kami plz gimme some reads

[Kami]

Chewba Chews are back

come again?

I'm saying the read he made was false and not true

Come again?

[Kami]

What's the point of playing with everyone who says I'm not a worthy villager when they don't even know me

I don't wanna play with you guys anymore so I see no reason to defend myself anymore.
I don't fight policy lunches I accept them Bub


But yeah beck is totes good

[BankItDrew]

I'm saying the read he made was false and not true

Come again?

It was probably the most poorly written sentence all game. Not saying this is role-indicative but just that it hurt my eyes.

/grammarnazi

[Kami]

Villas(in no particular order):
Hifi
TTTom
MMMonkey
beck
gabe
ong
BATM

Wolfy:
aubrey
jkds
monkey
kami

I think kami is totally in her wolf range but I wouldn't be shocked if she flips villager.

I think aubrey first post saying there is a wolf on the kami wagon is super wolfy. I think its weird she's pushing those people without even saying anything regarding Kami's alignment. Then later when she call kami villa, if kami actualy flips villa I really think this is a TMI slip. I think aubrey can be a wolf in the world where kami is a villa and in the world where kami is a wolf.

I peeked BATM

I only have 5 posts because of restrictions, I will be following the thread and I will expand upon my reads throughout the day

lynch aubrey

You don't even know me how would you know my wolf range u idiot

[Kami]

It was probably the most poorly written sentence all game. Not saying this is role-indicative but just that it hurt my eyes.

/grammarnazi

English is my third language

[Luco]

Lol ong is wrong when I was wolf I didn't purpose target people everyone thought was villagery except luco because I had to

This is true. She tunnelled me that whole game

[BankItDrew]

Kami plz gimme some reads

I'm eargarly waiting. You have about ten minutes to change my vote.

[BankItDrew]

English is my third language

Fair enough. I only have one and envy those who have multiple.

[BankItDrew]

I want to rescind solely based on being an insensitive prick.

Can't do it.

[Kami]

I think comparing kami to crazvette is harsh. Maybe that's because in my imagination, kami is a cute barely legal manga character with blue hair, while crazvette is an Italian degen dude pretending to be a teenage girl.

This is actually kinda accurate thx Bub

[Kami]

Oh wait nvm I thought u said blue eyes ur fkkng wrong Bub

[Kami]

This is true. She tunnelled me that whole game

It's cause ur so good I had to get you out of the game gg

[Beck Novo]

What's the point of playing with everyone who says I'm not a worthy villager when they don't even know me

I don't wanna play with you guys anymore so I see no reason to defend myself anymore.
I don't fight policy lunches I accept them Bub

But yeah beck is totes good

this is a good start

any other reads?

Kami ignore the haterz

[Kami]

Naw Bub Aubrey is a wolf and if u wanna vote me instead and confirm Urself wolf too you can

[Kami]

Luco kinda wolfy too why Pop in randomly without posting anything else but confirming I tunneled him

Wtf bub

[Kami]

Ship gets town lean for sponging the bae

[Kami]

The rest of u sux so yeah

[Luco]

Luco kinda wolfy too why Pop in randomly without posting anything else but confirming I tunneled him

Wtf bub

On my phone, and ive been posting already this evening

[BankItDrew]

I'm telling you, bigred 2.0