Tit for Tat Werewolf

[Kami]

I didn't say it was non-existent. But, I don't see it as Luco. If there was bussing there, it would be SMF IMO.

i dont have this kind of meta so wtf am i suppose to do with this comment bub

[lilrascal]

i dont have this kind of meta so wtf am i suppose to do with this comment bub

I'm not making that statement based on meta, but on vote progression. You can look at my post #716 to look at the votes for the game.

[Kami]

wouldnt smf just keep his vote on luco then?

[lilrascal]

wouldnt smf just keep his vote on luco then?

Not if he was trying to save baudib, who was the more powerful wolf.

[Kami]

it would be 3 to 3
the same as 3 to 3 with baudib and jkds

[lilrascal]

In #616, SMF voted Luco, making it baud-4/luco-3.
In #619, I voted Luco, tying it at 4.
In #643, I voted JKDS, starting the JKDS wagon again.
In #656, SMF said "Parked on the side of the road for this lol" when I asked him to switch.
In #660, SMF voted JKDS.
In #663, Luco voted JKDS. Tying it for the final count at 3.

Both SMF and Luco could have bussed here, but SMF saying he wasn't going to change his vote and then changing it in the same minute (both posts at 6:58 PM) makes me suspicious.

IMO, SMF is the wolf or it was an afk player.

[wufwugy]

i thought smf was lock wolf after the baud flip. everything about him to that point was serious wofliness

but the jkds flip. i dunno

[lilrascal]

i thought smf was lock wolf after the baud flip. everything about him to that point was serious wofliness

but the jkds flip. i dunno

After rereading last night, I had SMF as slightly villa based on his posting from #555-562.

And in relooking at it just now, his vote in #562 looks f good because it tied it at 2/2/2/2 for BID/Luco/JKDS/Baud. He could have easily gone to BID or Luco over JKDS to put baudib in a better position.

[OngBonga]

VOTE COUNT

luco - 1 (kami)

note voting - drew rilla luco rascal monkey hoopy gator wuf gabe

Deadline is around 45 hrs

Debs...



Oh for a time machine.

[lilrascal]

I think our best play is to lynch gator or gabe and have the vig kill the other.

That should win this almost all of the time.

[BankItDrew]

And in relooking at it just now, his vote in #562 looks f good because it tied it at 2/2/2/2 for BID/Luco/JKDS/Baud. He could have easily gone to BID or Luco over JKDS to put baudib in a better position.

This is good detective work to clear smf.

I said i wasn't changing my vote so why would I drew?

Because you're a wolf?

What a weird question to ask me.

[BankItDrew]

I agree with rascal on lynching/vigging gabe and gator.

[lilrascal]

I agree with rascal on lynching/vigging gabe and gator.

Then jailkeep Kami, just in case.

[SuperMonkeyFace]

756/757

Finally. I don't know why I got villa leans to start the day today. My waffling around wasnt villagery and the jkds wagon looked as if saving baudib. Which I was on. Yet a few ppl came in clearing me today. Weird.

I think the only real clear guys based on votes are the 3 on baudib. Rilla wuf and drew. However rilla tried to vote jkds but was too late. So he's the least clear out of those 3 but I am pretty sure he was all over baudib during the day

So I think it's in gator, kami, luco, Gabe, hoopy

Kami is pretty villagery so I wont worry about her

Hoopy was wolfy and I think he only voted me yesterday

Gabe and gator mia. Not good looks.

Luco can easily be a wolf imo based on how the day/EOD went. And his vote on baudib like an hour before EOD but switched to jkds

[SuperMonkeyFace]

I obviously suspect the afk guys cuz its easy to slank away. And under the circumstances of getting rekt, I wouldn't doubt the wolf is a bit shook

But out of the posters I'm stuck between luco and hoopy. That's probably an even 50/50.

I just got off work so I'll read into my thoughts a lil more. Everything I've posted today is speculation and thoughts I've had while at work without reading for spew

[SuperMonkeyFace]

Should the jailkeepers out his target?

He either blocked the target or the wolf. So its not a guarantee but it could be FTW..

[wufwugy]

why again is hoopy supposedly v?

as the self-proclaimed master reader of the hoopman, i have seen some of what usually tells me he's a wolf. not enough to be positive, but some

[SuperMonkeyFace]

I don't recall saying I wasn't going to change my vote.

Did I?

[SuperMonkeyFace]

why again is hoopy supposedly v?

as the self-proclaimed master reader of the hoopman, i have seen some of what usually tells me he's a wolf. not enough to be positive, but some

I don't remember anything he did other than say I was wolfy and voted me. Like, that's it

[SuperMonkeyFace]

I think our best play is to lynch gator or gabe and have the vig kill the other.

That should win this almost all of the time.

Well we have a seer now

I wanna lynch hoop ATM

We lynch hoop/luco

Vig/peek gator and Gabe imo

[SuperMonkeyFace]

If luco is a wolf.. That's one hell of a day 1

[wufwugy]

last time i checked there aint no seer

[BankItDrew]

I don't want to vote for anyone until we at least hear from almost everyone.

[BankItDrew]

last time i checked there aint no seer

Check again

I believe there is an inverted role cop now after baudib died.

[wufwugy]

wtf that seems so high variance

[wufwugy]

no wonder baud was cool to kill jkds instead. baud dying creates a seer? fucking lol

[SuperMonkeyFace]

Seriously wuf? Cmon bro. Read the set up at least

[SuperMonkeyFace]

Our backup takes their rolecop

Their backup takes our jailkeepers I think?

[SuperMonkeyFace]

Yup. ^ that is correct

1x wolf rolecop
1x wolf backup jailer
1x vanilla wolf

1x town vig
1x town jailer
1x town backup rolecop
6x vanilla town

[BankItDrew]

no wonder baud was cool to kill jkds instead. baud dying creates a seer? fucking lol

I never thought of it like that and lol'd when I read it.

Very villagery post by wuf.

[wufwugy]

dont tell me what to do

[BankItDrew]

Unless wuf is epically levellling everyone!!!!

[SuperMonkeyFace]

What do we think about claiming at this point? or like I said earlier, just the jailer?? I genuinely don't know.

[SuperMonkeyFace]

dont tell me what to do

Just a suggestion

[SuperMonkeyFace]

We potentially caught the 3rd last night

[SuperMonkeyFace]

There sure won't be any counter claims flying around

[BankItDrew]

There sure won't be any counter claims flying around

I was thinking about this too.

I'd like to hear reasons why we shouldn't be claiming right now.

If all three power roles claim, any counter claim is a wolf.
This will avoid a derailment from a vanilla villager feeling like making a fake claim.
The wolf will obv nom the power roles at night.
Every lynch from here on out is of a vanilla villager or a wolf.

Or, we could just proceed as usual and if a power role is on the block, they can claim. The problem with this though will be of timing. Maybe they won't be around at eod. Or, if we make a late switch, it could be to a different power role that may not be available at eod.

At first glance, I'm leaning towards everyone hard claiming.

[SuperMonkeyFace]

10 Players Left (9 villagers (vig, seer, jailkeeper), 1 wolf)

SMF
Bankitdrew
Rascal
Wuf
Gorilla
Kami
luco
hoopy
gator
gabe

My POE today is the bottom 4. Everyone else has something in their favor. I do tinfoil about a few clears but that's not for today and not helpful
Gabe and gator have the potential to post but aorn our hands are tied. It's best to not put them up for lynch until they post.

So I suggest

Hoopy - lynch
Luco - Vig
Gator - peek
Gabe - jailkeep

[BankItDrew]

The seer maybe should keep their role secret, just because it's a near nut role.

[SuperMonkeyFace]

Bankitdrew. That's exactly what I had thought about too.

So why don't we say if anyone in that immediate POE is a PR then they claim..

Or something like that

[BankItDrew]

I'm good with that.

[SuperMonkeyFace]

If anyone disagrees with that and thinks maybe we've cleared someone light they should speak up

We have the potential to narrow down our POE quite a bit today

[SuperMonkeyFace]

[lilrascal]

Well we have a seer now

I wanna lynch hoop ATM

We lynch hoop/luco

Vig/peek gator and Gabe imo

We don't have a seer, we have a rolecop, which only gets their role title. The last wolf is vanilla, so the rolecop can only verify other villa PR's.

[lilrascal]

If anyone disagrees with that and thinks maybe we've cleared someone light they should speak up

We have the potential to narrow down our POE quite a bit today

I don't agree with your POE. I think it's much more likely to be gabe or gator than Luco or hoopy.

[Kami]

This is good detective work to clear smf.


Because you're a wolf?

What a weird question to ask me.

good job missing the point bub
i was saying my votes arent there to satisfy you and i dont see how not flip flopping my votes means im not partcipating

[BankItDrew]

Ok what does POE and aorn mean?

[SuperMonkeyFace]

Wtf is that shit

[Kami]

poe means people of interest or smth

[SuperMonkeyFace]

Wtf is that shit

Aka the rolecop/seer shenanigans. That sucks

[SuperMonkeyFace]

Ok what does POE and aorn mean?

Process of elimination

As of right now

[lilrascal]

I was thinking about this too.

I'd like to hear reasons why we shouldn't be claiming right now.

If all three power roles claim, any counter claim is a wolf.
This will avoid a derailment from a vanilla villager feeling like making a fake claim.
The wolf will obv nom the power roles at night.
Every lynch from here on out is of a vanilla villager or a wolf.

Or, we could just proceed as usual and if a power role is on the block, they can claim. The problem with this though will be of timing. Maybe they won't be around at eod. Or, if we make a late switch, it could be to a different power role that may not be available at eod.

At first glance, I'm leaning towards everyone hard claiming.

I don't think we should claim. Why make it easier for the wolf? I think the PR's should only claim if they're in trouble.

At this point, I don't see any reason for a late day switch. We should work on a POE and I still like what you and I talked about earlier.

Lynch/vig gabe and gator and then jailkeep the next most likely candidate.

Or, the jailkeeper could just jailkeep the same person and if we don't get another wolf kill, then that person is the wolf. If not, then that player is lock clear.

[SuperMonkeyFace]

I don't agree with your POE. I think it's much more likely to be gabe or gator than Luco or hoopy.

I don't necessarily disagree

They literally need to post first before I lynch them though

[lilrascal]

I don't necessarily disagree

They literally need to post first before I lynch them though

I mostly agree with that. If they don't post at all, I don't see keeping them around either.

[Kami]

well i tried

[BankItDrew]

I don't agree with your POE. I think it's much more likely to be gabe or gator than Luco or hoopy.

I'm leaning this way too. Getting complaisant.

[lilrascal]

Here's the rolecop role PM from the Mafiascum link. Unfortunately, at this point there only power is to find villa PRs.

Town Backup Role Cop
Welcome, [Player Name], you are a Town Backup Role Cop.
Abilities:
In the event the Mafia Role Cop dies, you will gain its power and be able to investigate a player at night to discover their role. Vanilla Townies are Mafia Goons both investigate as "Vanilla".

[lilrascal]

I'm leaning this way too. Getting complaisant.

I'd really like to get the last wolf in a sweep without a villa even dying.

[BankItDrew]

good job missing the point bub
i was saying my votes arent there to satisfy you and i dont see how not flip flopping my votes means im not partcipating

I honestly have no idea what you're going on about. I'm down for changing the subject if you are.

[Kami]

I honestly have no idea what you're going on about. I'm down for changing the subject if you are.

you forgot your own posts bub?

[BankItDrew]

I'd really like to get the last wolf in a sweep without a villa even dying.

I got excited :/

[BankItDrew]

you forgot your own posts bub?

I feel like you want to engage with me but idgaf

[Kami]

what the fook

[SuperMonkeyFace]

Luco
luco the last woof and his votes make sense from a woof perspective

fight me

Wouldn't mind a Kami/luco tdome

[SuperMonkeyFace]

I just bolded kami.

But erased it.

Thought I'd let you guys know..

[BankItDrew]

You may or may not get mod killed for that

[lilrascal]

Wouldn't mind a Kami/luco tdome

No, I think they're both villas and v/v tdomes aren't very satisfying.

[BankItDrew]

Wouldn't mind a Kami/luco tdome

What does tdome mean?

If it means something to do with killing kami, I'm game.

[SuperMonkeyFace]

You may or may not get mod killed for that

I didn't edit. Just typing in my little text box

[SuperMonkeyFace]

Lilrascal start posting more like you were yesterday please

[lilrascal]

This game is based on the following approved setup from mafiascum...

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Tit_for_Tat

All roles are exactly as described in this link, so please take a moment to read the role pms.

Blah... Wolves have day and night talk. Majority not necessary, but will insta lynch. Ties settled by first one to the post. It's ok to quickly edit typos, but don't abuse this. Anyone caught modifying the context of a post will be modkilled. Self voting is fine, it's +1 to your vote tally. I will not modkill for inactivity, however I will seek replacements if necessary. Quoting your role pm is fine, seeing as I've linked the game page. Don't quote anything else I might send via pm. There will be no surprises, game is as described in the link. This has been played as a 12-man format at least 8 times at MS, links at the bottom of the game page if anyone can be bothered with that, so it should be considered balanced. It looks fun to me.

Days will be 48 hrs (+24 hrs for weekend) nights 24. Thread will be closed during the night.

I really hope Ong doesn't MK here and ruin our sweep of the wolves, unless my paranoia about SMF is right. (But I don't think it is.

[SuperMonkeyFace]

Thunderdome

Go head-to-head while we all watch and learn who the wolf is

[lilrascal]

Lilrascal start posting more like you were yesterday please

What part? I'm about to go to bed.

Also, who are you?

[SuperMonkeyFace]

Lilrascal. Don't worry, the paranoia is reciprocated bud

[SuperMonkeyFace]

Like, I hope you're a power role otherwise I'll just end up wanting to kill you..

That's if this game isn't over after today/tonight