Sep 2015 Werewolf - Game thread

[baudib]

um, that's a problem.

[OngBonga]

@Ong: Its better than dying. Idk how many votes rascal had though, and his claim seems very similar to the loki game one where he was tellin the truth.

Being a roleblocked seer is better than maybe dying? Being a roleblocked seer is better than claiming vanilla and hoping for the best?

Nah.

[OngBonga]

kami self lynches tend to result in modkills here, rather than merely a vote.

I would be in favour of leniency, regardless of her role.

[Kami]

Oh well I voted because I didn't care about dying so

[MadMojoMonkey]

lynch Kami

STOP POSTING

THREAD IS CLOSED WHILE I FIGURE THIS OUT

EDIT: I am not figuring this out. I am not in charge, here. Luco is the mod.
This is entirely up to Luco. I'm just giving him the chance to handle it however he decides.

***
RE-EDIT: Thank you for your patience. I fear that Luco has gone to sleep, and the answer will be a few more hours in coming.

[gabe]

well we did it

we have a day 1 on FTR with 11+ pages

its overwhelming

i'd lynch evene or baudib or gator

edit: sorry i didnt get to the end. ill stop now

[GatorJH]

Wuf's fuck it attitude is more villa-wuf than wolf-wuf. He agonized about how bad he was letting his wolf team down last time he was a wolf; so he'd probably not just be invisible all game.

I disagree. Wuf stated on multiple occasions that he was going to change up his posting style this game. This is more rand than villager to me.

[GatorJH]

Hoopy

I think I like this.

[GatorJH]

Well shit. Luco?

[GatorJH]

well we did it

we have a day 1 on FTR with 11+ pages

its overwhelming

i'd lynch evene or baudib or gator

edit: sorry i didnt get to the end. ill stop now

I like everything here except lynching me.

[baudib]

I considered locking the thread but I think it's really bad for me to do that as an active player. MMM didn't lock the thread and he could have done so and is some form of sub-mod for this game.

I don't know what we should do here, Luco won't be up for a couple hours I think (it's like 6 a.m.?)

[BankItDrew]

I would suggest no chatting until Luco makes a ruling.

[MadMojoMonkey]

STOP POSTING

THREAD IS CLOSED WHILE THE MOD HANDLES A SELF-LYNCH

Thank you for your patience. I fear that Luco has gone to sleep, and the answer will be a few more hours in coming.

***
EDIT: I sincerely apologize for the inconvenience of halting the game like this.
Luco asked me to help with VC's and to help balance the roles pre-game.

He did not ask me to mod-kill anyone for any reason.
This is Luco's decision.

[Luco]

Thanks everyone for your patience while I slept, and while I sought the opinion of some independents.

It is true that self lynching on ftr results in modkill and EoD. However,

1/ I forgot to mention no self lynch in the rules
2/ This is not a rule that our new players are used to.

So, just to be clear

self lynching on FTR results in modkill and EoD!

There will be absolutely no further warnings on this.

As you were. Thread is open, day ends at 5pm as planned (7 hours from now. )

On an unrelated note - have fun, but don't get too personal or abusive.

[Hoopy]

well we did it

we have a day 1 on FTR with 11+ pages

its overwhelming

i'd lynch evene or baudib or gator

edit: sorry i didnt get to the end. ill stop now

Soooo much to read!

Why evene?

[baudib]

http://

[baudib]

Well it's unfortunate we lost so much time and probably a chance for Rascal to post.

whatever.

It's time to get serious wagons folks.

Everyone needs to get off Rascal and Kami NOW.

[baudib]

Soooo much to read!

Why evene?

ai yi yi Hoopy

what a post.

[baudib]

#hottake 1

I think all of the wolves are in FTR vets most of the time (~70%)

#hottake 2

I don't think Ong-Gator-JKDS have very many of them.

[JKDS]

Unofficial looks like this

Kami: Hoopy, Rascal, Rilla
Hoopy: Baudib, Ship, Cory
Rascal: Kami, Ong
Ong: wuf
Baudib: Gabe
Gator: Evene
JKDS: SMF
WUF: BID

[a500lbgorilla]

lynch lilrascal

[baudib]

I'm interested in being enlightened as to how Gabe went from

i kept eliminating people until i got to these. hoopy could be removed but i dont know why he should be. what do you think out of these?


JKDS
Gator
Baudib
Hoopy
Evene
Cory

well we did it

we have a day 1 on FTR with 11+ pages

its overwhelming

i'd lynch evene or baudib or gator

edit: sorry i didnt get to the end. ill stop now

Particularly Hoopy, since Gabe mentions him for seemingly no reason in the first post. Hoopy then goes on to say he likes the idea floated by someone he can't clear (Rilla) on someone he makes an uber generic comment on: "posts are fluffy and one-liners."

WTF does that even mean. We have like 1300 posts in this game and most of them are one-liners.

Gabe, how did you decide to eliminate Hoopy from contention?

[JKDS]

@Corey..or whoever plays with Kami: Kami's been posting with a fun / silly style. Does this mean anything at all? I find it villagery.

Hoopy: Idk

Rascal: I think hes villa, and its not even close.

Ong: Also villa, I dont think he pushes a claimed seer as a wolf so hard. According to his own narrative, there really wouldnt be much benefit for the wolves in doing so.

Baudib: Feels villagery. I chalk any differences up to playing with cory et al

Gator: Idk

Wuf: villa. @Gator: wuf says hes gonna change his style every 5 minutes. I dont think that means hes gonna suddenly stop caring about letting down his team by doing jack shit all game. I think he cares alot about that, so I dont think he plays like this as a wolf.

I think cory's a villager, im happy with gabe + BID, and idk who im missing

[baudib]

lynch lilrascal

great, whatever.

[JKDS]

Oh yeah. I like shit as a villa too. Idfk about Monkey

[baudib]

Gator's taken what would be an extremely weird line as a wolf, especially considering his history and the uniqueness of this game so far.

[JKDS]

lynch lilrascal

Theres no point. If hes a wolf, we find out when the seer outs. If hes a villa, we find out when the wolves kill him or when no seer outs. Cory has a point that rascal doesnt fake out often, but I discount that pretty heavily since we recently had a game where rascal outed last as the real seer, after two other people (1 villager) outed as seer earlier in the game. He thought it was cool iirc

[baudib]

@JKDS

Kami's probably better than a peeked villager in this game.

[baudib]

Thing about Rascal is I wanted to lynch him hard, and I hate his policy lynch line, but as he was feeding it to me I realized it made no sense as a wolf.

Like, if he started the game with a "let's policy lynch Kami" that would make sense, but as someone perceiving himself to be under heat I can't say that it does. As a wolf it'd be fairly simple to get cliffs from a teammate and fabricate something. I mean look at all of the votes cast on thin to non-existent cases that have drawn no attention whatsoever.

[Luco]

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
|| VOTE COUNT ||
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

player (votes) || who's voting for them

rascal (3) || Kami, ong, rilla
Hoopy (3) || SIU, Cory, baud

Kami (2) || Hoopy, rascal

ong (1) || wuf
baudib (1) || gabe
Gator (1) || Evene
JKDS (1) || SMF
wuf (1) || BID

no vote (2) || Gator, JKDS

8 to lynch. Please notify me if you spot an error in the VC.

Day 1 ends in ~6.5 hours.

EDIT: D1 ends @ 5:00 PM GMT on Friday, which is 11:00 AM in St Louis.

[baudib]

JK I'm here, whisper sweet nothings to me.



that I'm going to sit on for a bit but I need some new ideas percolating in my brain.

[baudib]

I don't think I am voting for SIU but I'll change it soon anyway.

[JKDS]

Ill be up for another half hour or so. I dont really care about any theory involving rascal though. I got it like, 3:1 that hes a villager, but the shit plays itself.

[JKDS]

Why ship?

[baudib]

I have zero interest in talking about Rascal, possibly for the rest of the game.

[baudib]

I wanted to see how Ship would react if I voted him because I was bored. I'm not voting him today.

[Luco]

I don't think I am voting for SIU but I'll change it soon anyway.

Missed one. Amended.

[JKDS]

Bleh, this is hard.

[baudib]

JK go back and read what I said about Hoopy before the interruption and tell me if it makes sense. The stuff between him and Rilla.

[JKDS]

I mean, its not nothing.

[JKDS]

I got hoopy as exactly random right now, which isnt saying much because he usually doesnt talk much and I usually cant read him well even when he does.

This has me thinking about Rilla though.

[Kami]

Baudib you should of told me self voting wasn't allowed because you know I self vote a lot

:/

[baudib]

Baudib you should of told me self voting wasn't allowed because you know I self vote a lot

:/

yeah my bad. I thought about it at one point but forgot to mention it.

Ties aren't randed either, the lynchee is the one who gets to the final number first.

[Kami]

hoppy

[JKDS]

The thing thats bugging me most about rilla is his post where hes all "you lynched me" to cory, and his string of "lol, occam's razor" to everyone else later. It doesnt sound right to me, and idk why

[Kami]

U Baka

[Kami]

Rilla is susp af to me too

[Kami]

Literally all his posts r wolfy to me

[baudib]

There are a lot of worlds where Rilla is going to be a villager and all of this makes sense, but there are some moving parts that have to align for that to be true.

I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt for today.

[Kami]

I figured lol

[Hoopy]

Baudib you should of told me self voting wasn't allowed because you know I self vote a lot

:/

So self voting doesn't really clear you.

[JKDS]

Hoops hold on, hold on. I got a question

[SuperMonkeyFace]

Not sure who the wolfiest player is aorn. I still wouldn't put jkds in my villa pile.

Baudib, Cory, and ship om fairly certain are villagers. (Coincidence they are all from same site?)

90% ong is a villager

Bid/wuf/gator/hoopy/kami all have things that make me worry whether they are v's.

Rilla slightly above my wolfy guys

Rascal and jkds

Rascal and jkds

Gabe n Evene unmemorable for me. Will read tmrw

Dunno if I'll be around much before EOD but this is what I got so far

[Kami]

Naw I self vote when I'm town except for one time but that was as a joke because everyone else was doing it

[JKDS]

A what?

I think Ong jumping on Gator for 'traitor' instead of 'tailor' is a big reach, I don't think Ong actually believes he's got a wolf.

Monkey is slightly defensive vs JKDS, if he goes back to hunting though I'm not worried.

Whats going on with these things?

1) You posted how ong doesnt believe his argument, how come you didnt vote him for it?

2) Whats going on with the "if he goes back to hunting though" comment? Like, why say that? If he did just that, it wouldnt prove anyhting because you wouldnt know why he did it. Whats up?

[Kami]

What makes u think I'm not a villager

[JKDS]

Not sure who the wolfiest player is aorn. I still wouldn't put jkds in my villa pile.

Baudib, Cory, and ship om fairly certain are villagers. (Coincidence they are all from same site?)

90% ong is a villager

Bid/wuf/gator/hoopy/kami all have things that make me worry whether they are v's.

Rilla slightly above my wolfy guys

Rascal and jkds

Rascal and jkds

Gabe n Evene unmemorable for me. Will read tmrw

Dunno if I'll be around much before EOD but this is what I got so far

I dont wanna be in your monkey piles.

I agree on baud, corey, ship, and ong tho, and BID / Wuf are usually well-read by everyone on the site so I wouldnt worry bout them.

[baudib]

I like Monkey, I wish he would tell me who he is though.

[JKDS]

I'm expecting some colour coding, last game you didn't have your usual analysis and were wolfing.

Any info on how kami, Cory, SIU play?

This one too hoops. Why you tellin ppl that they twist oreos when they've got the nuts?

[JKDS]

I like Monkey, I wish he would tell me who he is though.

He tone reads a lot better since he returned. I got him as a solid neutral right now

[Hoopy]

Whats going on with these things?

1) You posted how ong doesnt believe his argument, how come you didnt vote him for it?

2) Whats going on with the "if he goes back to hunting though" comment? Like, why say that? If he did just that, it wouldnt prove anyhting because you wouldnt know why he did it. Whats up?

1) He's done this kind of thing as a villager before. Possibly he was trying to set up a trap or just reaction test Gator. Didn't think it warranted a vote.

2) True I wouldn't be able say he did it of his own accord, probably a small mistake by me. Though someone hunting is good for the village even if they are a wolf because it gives us more chances to dissect their thinking.

[JKDS]

Baud, show me the post where Monkey says hes from ftr or whatever. Its making me paranoid that I cant find it, yet you know he is

[Hoopy]

This one too hoops. Why you tellin ppl that they twist oreos when they've got the nuts?

If he provides analysis though it will help the village regardless.

[baudib]

Baud, show me the post where Monkey says hes from ftr or whatever. Its making me paranoid that I cant find it, yet you know he is

I don't think he's from here, he pretty clearly has seen some POG games in action and probably participated in them.

[Hoopy]

What makes u think I'm not a villager

Her posts are mainly fluff and one liners.

.

[baudib]

I've only played forum werewolf a couple times but I've read tons of games from different poker sites

But I think he mentioned being familiar with Rascal's game, and he seems to be really comfortable using vernacular that I think is not universal werewolf lingo.

This was my next question. Is bussing uncommon here? I thought this was a vanilla when I signed up so I'm obviously a little more excited now. The reveals here only show wolf or villager right? Not exact role?

You're not a good turbo player if you're not claiming seer at least once a day.

This is interesting developments though. He's obv NOT the seer

^ this post is pretty outing as a POG turbo player.

[JKDS]

I dont know what to think about Hoopy's response, but I feel like I butchered the question

[Kami]

How is fluff wolfy

[Hoopy]

90% ong is a villager

Why are you so solid on Ong?

[Hoopy]

How is fluff wolfy

Excessive amounts of fluff is wolfy. It gives you something to say that isn't going to be controversial.

[JKDS]

Fuck it lynch rilla.

[Hoopy]

We should probably leave rascal alone today.

[Hoopy]

It'll be sad if rascal never comes back to post about all the heat he's catching

Said his fellow wolf?

[Cory]

Kami is probably a villager fwiw

[Cory]

Kami do you think Ship is a villager?