Sep 2015 Werewolf - Game thread

[lilrascal]

Baudib or anyone else,

If you want to chat, I'm here to answer talk for a bit.

[Kami]

confirmed wolf ty
lilrascal

[Kami]

he basically admitted that IM TOWN

yet he is voting me because im fuck around as town

[baudib]

Rascal, what's up?

I'm grading on a severe curve and I feel like your game is not very villagery.

[lilrascal]

he basically admitted that IM TOWN

yet he is voting me because im fuck around as town

NO. I'm stating that you're either a bad town player or a wolf this game. Either way, you need to go.

[lilrascal]

Rascal, what's up?

I'm grading on a severe curve and I feel like your game is not very villagery.

My work situation is actually worse than last week. I saw the vote count and saw that Kami is pushing it and I stated last game that she did this that I would policy lynch her every game I played with her. I reconsidered that for this game, but once she started her trolling again, I decided I'm keeping with that policy from now on.

[lilrascal]

I'm sorry if that came off as a little short, but I've been up since 3:30 this morning and I still have some work to do before I can go to bed.

[baudib]

OK. In what way is Kami trolling?

Some of us here are professional Kami readers.

[lilrascal]

OK. In what way is Kami trolling?

Some of us here are professional Kami readers.

ISO and point out one thing of substance that she's said. Hint: you won't find any.

[baudib]

ISO and point out one thing of substance that she's said. Hint: you won't find any.

Mmm let's say I'll play ball here. So you had the time to ISO her but can't make a vote based on anything that has actually happened in the game? Or even point out something wolfy that she said?

[BankItDrew]

ISO and point out one thing of substance that she's said. Hint: you won't find any.

I know I have thousands of posts under my belt but how do you iso?

[baudib]

BID: go to search thread, and type in the player's name.

[BankItDrew]

FYI I'll be possibly MIA for much of D2. I may not be but it's a possibility.

Otherwise, I'll be available 24/7 minus sleeping.

[lilrascal]

Mmm let's say I'll play ball here. So you had the time to ISO her but can't make a vote based on anything that has actually happened in the game? Or even point out something wolfy that she said?

Yes, I ISO'd her and skimmed thru it. She's continuing her troll of me from the game on MU where she fake peeked me wolf when I was the cop. She say's she's "soul reading" me without posting any content.

What is wolfy about her is her play this game in being either coming from a wolf or from someone again playing anti-town for their own amusement rather than playing the game.

[baudib]

I mean I'm trying to be fair here. In your case, Rascal, I can TOTALLY see why you would want to policy lynch Kami based on what happened at MU. Also, I don't think you're the only one from that game who feels that way.

However, this doesn't help you at all IMO because you seem to be having a great deal of difficulty finding anything relevant to say about the game state.

[lilrascal]

I know I have thousands of posts under my belt but how do you iso?

Click this link: http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...rewolf-village

and then select the number next to "Replies:" on the thread you want to ISO. A popup will come up listing all of the players and the number of posts that they've made. Click on the number of posts and it will show you all of that person's posts in that thread.

[lilrascal]

I mean I'm trying to be fair here. In your case, Rascal, I can TOTALLY see why you would want to policy lynch Kami based on what happened at MU. Also, I don't think you're the only one from that game who feels that way.

However, this doesn't help you at all IMO because you seem to be having a great deal of difficulty finding anything relevant to say about the game state.

I agree with you, and based on the game state and my limited time, I'm doing my best to help the village. You know that I would do more and I'm not afraid to post in either role.

I'm just extremely frustrated because of work and what's going on in this game right now.

[baudib]

I've played plenty of games with people where they turn out to be villagers and I say, "Geeze, I want to policy lynch this player in the future," but then I get to the next game with them and realize that's very anti-village. instead I institute a longstanding policy peek (always peek Killer in turbos for instance) or policy vig strategy with someone, but policy lynching just creates too many problems for the village that wolves can easily exploit.

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I almost want to really hard clear Kami for the fact that two of the more POEable people want to lynch her.

Just based on pure odds, it seems unlikely that Rascal/Rilla are going to be W/W a ton of the time, but in this case I can definitely see it. Rilla, trying to feign his village douchey wise man role (Gabe is our crazy like a fox uncle, Ong is the brat smarts), pushes the idea of lynching the newcomers while Rascal says he wants to policy lynch her based on personal history.

[lilrascal]

I've played plenty of games with people where they turn out to be villagers and I say, "Geeze, I want to policy lynch this player in the future," but then I get to the next game with them and realize that's very anti-village. instead I institute a longstanding policy peek (always peek Killer in turbos for instance) or policy vig strategy with someone, but policy lynching just creates too many problems for the village that wolves can easily exploit.

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I almost want to really hard clear Kami for the fact that two of the more POEable people want to lynch her.

Just based on pure odds, it seems unlikely that Rascal/Rilla are going to be W/W a ton of the time, but in this case I can definitely see it. Rilla, trying to feign his village douchey wise man role (Gabe is our crazy like a fox uncle, Ong is the brat smarts), pushes the idea of lynching the newcomers while Rascal says he wants to policy lynch her based on personal history.

I totally agree, and that was my plan for this game, but she started after me from the beginning. This is a COMPLETE repeat of the MU game.

[baudib]

I totally agree, and that was my plan for this game, but she started after me from the beginning. This is a COMPLETE repeat of the MU game.

Ya I sympathize, the problem is she was a villager in the MU game.

I was pretty annoyed about it, too, but this is a new game.

[BankItDrew]

BID: go to search thread, and type in the player's name.

Once I figured out how to ISO, it didn't take me long to read every one of Kami's posts. They're all short and fluffy.

[baudib]

Once I figured out how to ISO, it didn't take me long to read every one of Kami's posts. They're all short and fluffy.

Your mom is short and fluffy.

That's kinda Kami's game though. She doesn't make big cases on people or MQs or anything.

[BankItDrew]

Click this link: http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...rewolf-village

and then select the number next to "Replies:" on the thread you want to ISO. A popup will come up listing all of the players and the number of posts that they've made. Click on the number of posts and it will show you all of that person's posts in that thread.

Thanks. That makes it easier.

[lilrascal]

Ya I sympathize, the problem is she was a villager in the MU game.

I was pretty annoyed about it, too, but this is a new game.

Yes, I know she was and she may be again, but I don't have time to deal with her crap this game.

I hate to do this, but HARD CLAIM SEER

In normal circumstances, this wouldn't be the best play, but I don't know if I'll be back before EOD tomorrow and when I asked for a sub I got no response.

Yes, I know it's hard to believe I randed cop/seer again, but it is what it is.

[BankItDrew]

I don't understand why you would claim seer before N1.

[lilrascal]

I don't understand why you would claim seer before N1.

Because I will almost certainly not make it back into the thread tomorrow before EOD because of work and it's better to claim here than get the mislynch.

[BankItDrew]

ahhh you're on the chopping block...

but you'll get nommed during N1 and basically null the seer PR.

imo you should have just tried to survive D1 somehow else.

[baudib]

JFC not again.

[lilrascal]

ahhh you're on the chopping block...

but you'll get nommed during N1 and basically null the seer PR.

imo you should have just tried to survive D1 somehow else.

I would have done that if I would have been around tomorrow or even earlier today, but unfortunately that's not the case.

[BankItDrew]

Okay so if no one steps up to the plate to hard claim the seer after rascal, we should be lynching whomever the hell rascal says to lynch.

amirite?

[baudib]

Okay so if no one steps up to the plate to hard claim the seer after rascal, we should be lynching whomever the hell rascal says to lynch.

amirite?

no. why? he hasn't read the game.

[BankItDrew]

yeah i'm right. rascals the only player guaranteed to not be lying at that point

[baudib]

oh btw, the real seer should absolutely not out here.

[lilrascal]

I totally agree, and that was my plan for this game, but she started after me from the beginning. This is a COMPLETE repeat of the MU game.

JFC not again.

I agree. That's why I hinted that it was a COMPLETE repeat of the MU game.

I really wanted to be vanilla this game because I knew work was going to be a little rough, but I never expected what I stepped into at work today and for the rest of the week and weekend.

[baudib]

yeah i'm right. rascals the only player guaranteed to not be lying at that point

don't try to draw a CC.

[BankItDrew]

no. why? he hasn't read the game.

you're joking. you must be.

i trust a claimed seers blind shot in the dark on D1 over anyone elses

[lilrascal]

Okay so if no one steps up to the plate to hard claim the seer after rascal, we should be lynching whomever the hell rascal says to lynch.

amirite?

I didn't get a N0 peek. So, all I know is that I'm clear.

[baudib]

In b4 Kami hard claims seer btw.

NO REALLY, THE SEER SHOULD ABSOLUTELY NEVER OUT ON D1 UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. DO NOT BE STUPID.

[BankItDrew]

don't try to draw a CC.

A counter claim?

No, I was talking out loud trying to get a consensus.

[lilrascal]

don't try to draw a CC.

If there is a CC, then lynch them because they are a guaranteed wolf.

There's no reason other than what I've stated for me to make this claim now.

[baudib]

If there is a CC, then lynch them because they are a guaranteed wolf.

There's no reason other than what I've stated for me to make this claim now.

Just trying to damage control here. I'm not countering you now when I could get a free peek tonight. you know this.

[lilrascal]

In b4 Kami hard claims seer btw.

NO REALLY, THE SEER SHOULD ABSOLUTELY NEVER OUT ON D1 UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. DO NOT BE STUPID.

Too late, I already did. Call me stupid, but I didn't see a better play from my perspective.

[baudib]

Too late, I already did. Call me stupid, but I didn't see a better play from my perspective.

that wasn't directed at you.

[lilrascal]

Just trying to damage control here. I'm not countering you now when I could get a free peek tonight. you know this.

I didn't call you out there and you know that.

[lilrascal]

that wasn't directed at you.

[baudib]

JFC, I thought yesterday was Thursday.

Lynch isn't until Friday FFS.

[Kami]

YOU ADMITTED TO LYNCHING SOMEONE YOU THINK WAS TOWN

THATS FKING WOLFY RASCAL

[baudib]

Lynch Rilla

[Kami]

Rascal wouldnt out as seer here

lol he didnt even out on MU after i claimed a red on him until hours later

[lilrascal]

YOU ADMITTED TO LYNCHING SOMEONE YOU THINK WAS TOWN

THATS FKING WOLFY RASCAL

No, I said there was a chance you were town, same as everyone else. The difference with you is that you're trying to lynch the seer.

[baudib]

Rascal wouldnt out as seer here

lol he didnt even out on MU after i claimed a red on him until hours later

I know but I appreciate his attempt at seer cover.

[lilrascal]

Rascal wouldnt out as seer here

lol he didnt even out on MU after i claimed a red on him until hours later

I worked till nearly midnight tonight, and I'll do the same tomorrow and then I'm flying most of Friday. I won't be in the thread for D1 except for a little bit tonight and maybe some tomorrow night.

I'm doing the best I can for the village, the same as the MU game. What have you done to help the village win?

[baudib]

Lynch Wufwugy

[BankItDrew]

I iso'd rilla and I realized that his posts this game were also fluffy and short. Which is in direct contrast to how I described him earlier.

[baudib]

BID:
I'm a little concerned that you're not used to reading people in ISO, because context matters a lot.

Go read the May game, the first 2 pages, and see how Rilla interacts with people.

[BankItDrew]

I'm coming around to baudib being a villager. I don't know why I always think he's a wolf but I do. Same goes for boog and wuf.

rescind
lynch wuf

I would get on board with a kami lynch wagon if it takes off.

[BankItDrew]

BID:
I'm a little concerned that you're not used to reading people in ISO, because context matters a lot.

Go read the May game, the first 2 pages, and see how Rilla interacts with people.

Too much work tbh

I'd rather just iso from now on, rather than do research.

(I'm not a wolf avoiding this. I'm a lazy villager)

[Kami]

Rascal all youve done is barely post and claim seer
How is that helping town?

Yet you come at me asking me how ive helped town?

laughable

also i wasnt even lynching you when u lynched me so you got caught lying, you did not lynch me because i was trying to lynch the "seer"

[ShipItUp]

No one has talked about me on this page

*angrily eats bamboo*

[gabe]

I'm sorry if that came off as a little short, but I've been up since 3:30 this morning and I still have some work to do before I can go to bed.

i just got to thread tonight and i was ready to quote this and say "rascal should never be a wolf"


i just dont buy any of the cases. i'm happy to give wufwugy a day pass here since he asked for it.

yall have posted a lot but i havent been able to get much value out of it

[baudib]

Who should we lynch, Gabe?

[gabe]

No one has talked about me on this page

*angrily eats bamboo*

strong villager post. good job

[gabe]

Who should we lynch, Gabe?

i kept eliminating people until i got to these. hoopy could be removed but i dont know why he should be. what do you think out of these?


JKDS
Gator
Baudib
Hoopy
Evene
Cory

[baudib]

i kept eliminating people until i got to these. hoopy could be removed but i dont know why he should be. what do you think out of these?


JKDS
Gator
Baudib
Hoopy
Evene
Cory

I feel like this isn't a good list. Maybe 0.8 wolves on average.

What do you think of Rilla? Why are you giving Wuf a pass?

[baudib]

hmm good talk.

[baudib]

JKDS - shows some signs of solveyness. A little annoying that he doesn't really put in any effort on D1. Could be a wolf.

Hoopy - Don't see any reason why he can't be a wolf. Could be anything.

Gator - has displayed some behavior that indicates he's unlikely to be a wolf. It's Gator though.

Evene - somewhat near null. I kinda want to see her in action when we have some more information.

Baudib - not a wolf ldo

Cory - probably out of his wolf range.

[gabe]

I'm coming around to baudib being a villager. I don't know why I always think he's a wolf but I do. Same goes for boog and wuf.

rescind
lynch wuf

baud bolds wuf
drew admits he always thinks baud is a wolf
drew admits he always thinks wuf is a wolf
baud convinces drew to unbold baud and instead bold wuf


thats not supposed to happen

[gabe]

baud just seems like hes not flowing the same way as he does when hes a villager. and ive spotted him as a villager plenty of times..

i also raelize im focusing on baudib too much. i need to apply myself toward these other heavy posters

[baudib]

baud bolds wuf
drew admits he always thinks baud is a wolf
drew admits he always thinks wuf is a wolf
baud convinces drew to unbold baud and instead bold wuf


thats not supposed to happen

How do I have anything to do with BID voting Wuf?

[baudib]

baud just seems like hes not flowing the same way as he does when hes a villager. and ive spotted him as a villager plenty of times..

i also raelize im focusing on baudib too much. i need to apply myself toward these other heavy posters

What? I'm flowing exactly as I always do.

[Luco]

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
|| VOTE COUNT ||
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

player (votes) || who's voting for them

rascal (3) || Ship, Cory, Kami
Wuf (3) || Ong, Baudib, BID

Kami (2) || rilla, rascal

baudib (1) || gabe
Gator (1) || Evene
JKDS (1) || SMF
ong (1) || wuf
SMF (1) || JKDS

no vote (2) || Hoopy, gator

8 to lynch. Day 1 ends in ~30 hours, all other days will be 48 hrs long as stated in the OP.

Also, we accept votes in whatever format as long as they are bold

[baudib]

JKDS and Evene are interesting. They're both very similar in that they're very capable players, both been under the radar a bit. I don't know if this post restriction isa factor for Evene or not.

I kinda like Evene's posts. Nothing that would be overly difficult to say as a wolf but thoughtful. I wouldn't lynch her.

JKDS is less impressive than I thought. I don't like his push on SMF, although I grow considerably less comfortable with him the longer he stays AFK.

[baudib]

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
|| VOTE COUNT ||
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

player (votes) || who's voting for them

rascal (3) || Ship, Cory, Kami
Wuf (3) || Ong, Baudib, BID

Kami (2) || rilla, rascal

baudib (1) || gabe
Gator (1) || Evene
JKDS (1) || SMF
ong (1) || wuf
SMF (1) || JKDS

no vote (2) || Hoopy, gator

8 to lynch. Day 1 ends in ~30 hours, all other days will be 48 hrs long as stated in the OP.

Also, we accept votes in whatever format as long as they are bold

I don't like many of these wagons at all. Maybe that's why the game is so quiet (relatively speaking, a couple of people have like 90% of the posts in the past 20 hours).

I really want Rilla to be a wagon. It gives me pause that not a single person has said anything favorable about him, or anything that amounts to a soft-defense. But no one is actually pushing him, either, I guess. Like if he were a villager, I would suspect that someone would have expressed a willingness to lynch him since me and Cory were on him earlier.

[baudib]

Maybe Rilla and Hoopy. Cory, Ship and I are the leading posters in the thread aorn, by a lot. There hasn't been tons of activity as far as votes, but neither Rilla nor Hoopy got past 2 votes. 2 votes in a 15-person game isn't much.

That seems to be resistance to two wagons of people who haven't been exceptionally villagery.

lynch Rilla

[baudib]

I realize it's a lot of effort to make like 3 clicks but here's the first page of the May game, Rilla's last game. Rilla is tanned and rested, sipping margaritas at the pool all summer, so it's not burnout.

http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ad-199098.html