Double Day Unlimited Werewolf

[JKDS]

I'm not as committed to my villa mmm read as I am with others. I just remember that mmm usually shines like an obvious villager by this point...and he's not there. He says he's less interested this game, but he still seems like he's interested.

[MadMojoMonkey]

baudib rereading the thread, looking at posts in context, asking good questions... making me rethink my presumptions.

rescind baudib

If I presume baudib as V, then my remaining suspects are JKDS and lilrascal. Frankly, rascal is looking more V than JKDS.

JKDS 177

I like ong now.

B Lynch Rascal
Lynch Gabe
/B
Rascal hasnt cleared himself, and gabes way too eager to lynch people that lynched a wolf and not eager enough in clearing people based on it.

@JKDS: If you want credit for being on the Luco lynch, why lynch gabe, who was on the Luco lynch?
I.e. what was the difference between his 'eagerness' and yours?

I'm not as committed to my villa mmm read as I am with others. I just remember that mmm usually shines like an obvious villager by this point...and he's not there. He says he's less interested this game, but he still seems like he's interested.

I'm interested, but less so than par for me.

Nevertheless, this kind of soft push is wolfy as sin.

[JKDS]

baudib rereading the thread, looking at posts in context, asking good questions... making me rethink my presumptions.

rescind baudib

If I presume baudib as V, then my remaining suspects are JKDS and lilrascal. Frankly, rascal is looking more V than JKDS.

JKDS 177

@JKDS: If you want credit for being on the Luco lynch, why lynch gabe, who was on the Luco lynch?
I.e. what was the difference between his 'eagerness' and yours?


I'm interested, but less so than par for me.

Nevertheless, this kind of soft push is wolfy as sin.

I dont want credit. This isnt about proving my villagerness, its about proving baudib's wolfiness. No one can prove theyre a villager, and if you've been watching my playstyle throughout the past year, you know i've given up on that for a long time.

The issue is that my vote on luco is fishy, yet on gabe it isnt. Baudib had nothing to say to that, until gabe posted "hrm hrm, but excuses are different than nonapperances" to which baudib parroted right away.

[baudib]

baudib rereading the thread, looking at posts in context, asking good questions... making me rethink my presumptions.

rescind baudib

If I presume baudib as V, then my remaining suspects are JKDS and lilrascal. Frankly, rascal is looking more V than JKDS.

JKDS 177

@JKDS: If you want credit for being on the Luco lynch, why lynch gabe, who was on the Luco lynch?
I.e. what was the difference between his 'eagerness' and yours?


I'm interested, but less so than par for me.

Nevertheless, this kind of soft push is wolfy as sin.

MMM how do you go from this two hours ago to thinking I'm the wolf ahead of JKDS

AFAICT this is the first time you really mentioned JKDS all game as well.

[MadMojoMonkey]

MMM how do you go from this two hours ago to thinking I'm the wolf ahead of JKDS

AFAICT this is the first time you really mentioned JKDS all game as well.

Your hysteria is not well founded. I have mentioned JKDS many times, mostly by POE.

Village:
BID
gabe
ong

On Luco
gabe, gator, JKDS, ong
(that list is alphabetical, as are all my lists of player names)

Who's left?
baudib, lilrascal

What do I have clearing JKDS besides his vote on Luco? Not much.
What do I have to clear gator? Equally not much.

[baudib]

Your hysteria is not well founded. I have mentioned JKDS many times, mostly by POE.

Village:
BID
gabe
ong

On Luco
gabe, gator, JKDS, ong
(that list is alphabetical, as are all my lists of player names)

Who's left?
baudib, lilrascal

What do I have clearing JKDS besides his vote on Luco? Not much.
What do I have to clear gator? Equally not much.

you didn't answer the question

[MadMojoMonkey]

you didn't answer the question

Show me the question.

[baudib]

MMM lacks any real progression on anyone in the game. These are literally all the posts where he mentions JKDS

I'm not convinced. He (lilrascal) relies on live interaction to press his advantage as villager. This is the perfect hedge.
Everyone hedges. Villagers get less pressure when they're honest, and wolves get less pressure when they lie. Hedges win games.
Whoever calls it can get at least a partial free ride. Especially on this site where we know each other so well.

My read on lilrascal is slightly more wolfy than not.
(I totes misread him as wolfy in my MU game. Even after I'd identified the wolves I had him as possible SK, even though the night actions would have to have been phenomenal to prevent the SK from getting any kills. My meta read on rascal is in the dumps.)

BID for village President. He's playing the strongest D1 village game he's played in my recollection. Leaning V for BID.
I'm leaning slightly village on ong for his defense of his group vote and BID's read supports that. I trust BID's D1 reads on ong.
BID being all over the place is standard BIDville. Picking on BID for this is slightly wolfy, if anything (baud).

Despite that it's slightly wolfy on baudib to pick on BID, in general, he's reading V to me. He always looks village in the early game to me, and he's constantly improving. I hope he's a good guy. I'd love to hear a convincing read on baud, but I think it's too early and he's too good for that.

Gator... idk. He didn't fist pump in his opening post, so I guess that's wolfy.
JKDS always takes time to read, too.
Luco yet to post.
gabe yet to post.


I miss dhubs telling us how vanilla he was in every post.

??

Oh. I see now. Yes, I agree. I am being overly meta about gabe and gator.

Still. I have some other suspicions on baudib, but I'm not getting into them at this time.


This post means either of two things:
1) Ongie is V and believes I'm V and is helping me keep my head on straight.
2) Ongie is W and knows that gabe and gator are V and wants to keep suspicion piqued.

I'm leaning the former, but if ongie flips W, I doubt that he's overtly diverting suspicion toward gabe/gator if either of them is his buddy.


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Sorry to hear it JKDS. I hope you two can fight and make up w/o any permanent baggage.

As per the game, though... You can't ride on excuses.
What do you think of the baud/ong interaction?

What do you think about my analysis in this post?

I doubt there was any bussing on that vote.

I'm willing to clear all 4 for the rest of the game day (at least) on the notion that bussing the first vote when there are only 2 W's is high risk / low reward play.

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I'm reading the difference in tone in ong's posts, but unlike other peeps here, I'm reading it as genuine, no-BS play. I love me some ongie, and I feel very comfortable reading his posts in this game. Usually, his bravado and propensity for FPS turns me off a bit. This game is different from him. On that account, I can't disagree. I can only say that I've seen him wolf a bunch of times and I don't feel like this determined voice fits in to that game.

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Village:
BID
gabe
gator
JKDS
ong

Wolf:
baudib
lilrascal


lynch baudib
lynch lilrascal

I always buddy you up at the start of the game. You're one of my favorite peeps to play with, and I always want to V with you ever since you pwned me in that game with keybored. I've called you out multiple times mid-game for not playing a straight-forward, no FPS game when the Village needs you.

The language is me trying to figure you out. I know I'm V, so it's your perspective that I'm reading.
In the first proposition, you believe I'm V, and you're helping another V keep the distractions out of the game.
In the second proposition, you're not a V, and you know I'm V, and you're only stopping me from offering them V-cred because you know they're V's and want all V's to remain suspect. I don't see why you'd so subtly yet directly point this out to me if one of them is a W with you.

I don't see what's weird. If there's a third option that I'm not seeing, then by all means add to it.

@ong: You're voting for 3 people. Myself and the two people I'm voting for. Does this make sense to you?

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I always look for V's to work with on D1, and I had chosen ong and BID as early village core. This is largely unchanged.

Now I'm convinced that gabe is V, too. I have more experience with gabe (I only wolfed once and it was with him). I believe that he's not interested in bussing or any FPS for FPS sake. If he's going off the charts, it's motivated by a strong reason. That reason is not lacking in his own confidence to play this game well. That reason is something like, "I hate to do it, but you've left me absolutely no choice but to vote you. There's no way I wouldn't as a V." What did Luco do that left gabe absolutely no choice? I don't see it.

I want to see BID keep up the pace he set so far, as him disappearing once there's something to lie about is suspicious.


I strongly believe there are 3 V's in { BID, gabe, ong }


I don't know what gator is doing, but it doesn't look like hunting to me. Still, his vote on Luco when Luco wasn't under any real pressure earns him my respect for this voting cycle at least.

JKDS ... /feels/ ... villagery to me. I don't see the case on him.


baudib has struck me as inquisitive at the wrong things and more like he's spreading soft opinions all over the place rather than commit to some real reads. (I have been tunneling on him a bit, and if I've missed something, then please remind me.)

rascal may indeed have IRL business keeping him away, but that still leaves him showing little evidence of hunting.

Before this post your leanings on JKDS was villagery "I don't see the case on him."

baudib rereading the thread, looking at posts in context, asking good questions... making me rethink my presumptions.

rescind baudib

If I presume baudib as V, then my remaining suspects are JKDS and lilrascal. Frankly, rascal is looking more V than JKDS.

JKDS 177

@JKDS: If you want credit for being on the Luco lynch, why lynch gabe, who was on the Luco lynch?
I.e. what was the difference between his 'eagerness' and yours?


I'm interested, but less so than par for me.

Nevertheless, this kind of soft push is wolfy as sin.

[baudib]

I'm not as committed to my villa mmm read as I am with others. I just remember that mmm usually shines like an obvious villager by this point...and he's not there. He says he's less interested this game, but he still seems like he's interested.

what exactly are you saying about MMM here?