May 2015 Werewolf Gameplay Thread

[a500lbgorilla]

So why ong, boog?

[BooG690]

Mostly due his D1. Same thoughts I had on D1 just amplified by today's absence.

[BooG690]

I'm suspicious of baudib but I understand he won't be getting lynched today. I don't like a Wuf lynch just due to tone. From what I played with him as a wolf, he's not giving off a wolfy vibe. Ong it is.

[a500lbgorilla]

Rescind OngBonga, lynch JKDS

Gabe's read is spot on here. Better yet, OngBonga is reading a lot more genuine now.

What read as genuine coming from Ong that you discount now?

[a500lbgorilla]

I'm suspicious of baudib but I understand he won't be getting lynched today. I don't like a Wuf lynch just due to tone. From what I played with him as a wolf, he's not giving off a wolfy vibe. Ong it is.

So who are your 3 wolves?

[baudib]

This first quote is in response to Wuf.





Baud, this is what concerns me. You talk about wolves in Wuf, Boog and Ong. It seems like from your posts you think Wuf and Ong are the most likely wolves, but only mention them in passing.

You point out things in Boog's favor and then still keep pushing him.

Normally, I find you more consistent in your reads.

FWIW, I think Wuf and Ong should be today's wagons.

Rascal, I don't know if you've followed any long games I've played lately but I generally narrow the wolf list down to a few people and vacillate all day long on them.

if you want a recent example, check out the Fincher mash where I CFD a wolf to save Monte and then called Monte wolfy the next day, or how I inadvertently nailed Mutigers off a joke I had seen him make as a wolf but didn't push hard enough on.

[baudib]

but anyway Rascal, I'm basically agreeing with you on all your points about the current game state.

[a500lbgorilla]

Rilla I'd rilla. Gabe us gabe. Wuf is wuf. Baudib is Baudib.

What prompted this post, rong?

[a500lbgorilla]

google: define vacillate

[lilrascal]

Rascal, I don't know if you've followed any long games I've played lately but I generally narrow the wolf list down to a few people and vacillate all day long on them.

if you want a recent example, check out the Fincher mash where I CFD a wolf to save Monte and then called Monte wolfy the next day, or how I inadvertently nailed Mutigers off a joke I had seen him make as a wolf but didn't push hard enough on.

No, I haven't and I don't plan on going to read a MM. I can't keep up with them when I'm in them.

Like I said, it just doesn't seem to be your norm from what I remember, but I'm not reading you wolfy for it, but I'm not reading you villa yet either, which is what bothers me.

[lilrascal]

but anyway Rascal, I'm basically agreeing with you on all your points about the current game state.

Well, that's good.

[a500lbgorilla]

In fact that logic really sucks. You're saying he shite at the game. Of he can't wolf he can't play. He'd be auto day one lynch if he's fantastic as a villager and shite as a wolf. I don't ever remember rilla being bad at anything. Although admittedly I don't remember him being a wolf at all.

The meta is so bad for me, but I think I can iron it out. Great meta right now for when I'm a villager though.

[BooG690]

What read as genuine coming from Ong that you discount now?

Mobile website isn't allowing me to go back but it was a tone read, I'm sure. His absence now is troubling and I like his lynch over Wuf's.

[BooG690]

So who are your 3 wolves?

It's difficult for me to believe Hoopy is the vig, I'm just waiting for him to get shot and show up wolf.

Ong and baud with Ong begging baud to throw him under the bus D1. Rong if wrong about baud.

[a500lbgorilla]

Also we never auto lynch gator because he's a great villager as well as a wolf. Towing rilla every time he plays remotely like himself seems an awful strategy.

baudib you're doing an excellent job of sapping my enthusiasm already.

rilla is capable of wolfing. He might not have proven it to you, but there were games that happened before you existed.

Wolves trying to pump me up? I don't need pumped up, wolved.

[Luco]

Ong and wuf have gone to ground. Let's kill them

[a500lbgorilla]

It's difficult for me to believe Hoopy is the vig, I'm just waiting for him to get shot and show up wolf.

Ong and baud with Ong begging baud to throw him under the bus D1. Rong if wrong about baud.

I don't think you're a wolf, Boog. Baud would have to be playing me like a hammer not to be a villager here. Baud's motivation for his tact to the game can't be just keeping me in his pocket. I'll die. He's said way too many things that show me where his head is at. The one rock solid lesson I carry with me is that villagers can make posts wolves can't. He's made a few. Lynch him as a last resort, whatever you do.

[lilrascal]

Ong and wuf have gone to ground. Let's kill them

This pretty much seems to be the consensus. I'll start the Wuf wagon since Boog already started the Ong wagon.

Lynch Wuf

[a500lbgorilla]

Ong and wuf have gone to ground. Let's kill them

Who's the third wolf, Luco?

[baudib]

I don't disagree with anything anyone has said on this past page.

[Luco]

Who's the third wolf, Luco?

I think Boog, but at least he's here

Of all the jkds votes his seemed the most opportunistic. And it got him off Ong.

[a500lbgorilla]

I've seen rilla win as wolf in my early days, I'm sure of it. There were also a ton of games before me where rilla was involved. He's vastly experienced. If you think you can just town him based on his enthusiasm, you're not showing him nearly the respect he deserves.

I had one game where everyone thought I was a villager but cbee blew me up as seer, I remember. Another where I was at least doing OK but cbee blew us all up as seer.

Fucking courtiebee.

[a500lbgorilla]

I think Boog, but at least he's here

Of all the jkds votes his seemed the most opportunistic. And it got him off Ong.

What didn't you like about the JKDS vote?

[a500lbgorilla]

I though wufs last few posts looked rather villagery.

Mind expanding these thoughts, rong?

[a500lbgorilla]

Meh, not sure on that last post. I fucking hate baudib. (not real hate, just werewolf hate)

What do you werewolf hate about baudib?

[Luco]

If/when JKDS flips wolf, I'm bolding BID and never changing. Ong is creeping up my radar with his odd play.

Baud/Gabe on the same V-team isn't even fair. Love it.

Rilla, it's this post.

He said Ong sounded more genuine when he switched to jkds, then once jkds is the sure lynch he resurfaces and throws a bit more suspicion at Ong.

[a500lbgorilla]

Baud, aspects of your behavior for into my wolf 101 strategy. I think that's why I find you wolfy a lot.

What do you know about catching wolves?

[a500lbgorilla]

Rilla, it's this post.

He said Ong sounded more genuine when he switched to jkds, then once jkds is the sure lynch he resurfaces and throws a bit more suspicion at Ong.

I agree with exactly his thinking. I flipped to JKDS for two reasons - one he resisted sharing any part of his thinking (failing the test I use to find villagers) and two Ong's soul-searching posts really struck a chord with me. But with Ong opening the second day playing the same card and rolling over to show his belly... I think an old dog learned a new trick.


So I don't think Boog is wolfy for this post.

[baudib]

Rilla's doing God's work here, I'll peace out and let him run the thread.

[gabe]

for hoopy to be a wolf, that would mean ong should also be a wolf. (because hoopy needed to get off ong to help kill jkds). if hoopy was a wolf, then he would know innocent jkds was going to die, and would not want to be seen as a wagon cincher. its very hard for hoopy to wind up in the position he was in as a wolf.

this doesnt matter since we are just waiting on hoopy viggin but i thought i would post it. ong can still be a wolf where hoopy was just swayed off his wagon


wuf lynching baud only makes sense if wuf being deliberately obtuse or if hes a wolf knowing they cant win. or ong/hoopy shared their supply of dat ganj

[a500lbgorilla]

Is it struck a chord or struck accord. I like the imagery of the first.

[gabe]

hot damn u chord striking son of a gun

[a500lbgorilla]

Wuf seems vilager to me.

Ong is being useless. I think he is a better choice. That said, I am always a fan of removing low content players as they are a problem later on and unlikely to reveal much anyway.

What informed this wuf read?

[gabe]

rilla you have much responsibility being the only lock villager. you should try to coordinate the vig and the seer so theres no wasted power tonight. i want to lynch wuf but ill bold whoever u bold

[a500lbgorilla]

Well, we're at least waiting for me to reread you, gabe.

[a500lbgorilla]

wuf, voting BID is practically a random shot. we can do way better than random!! we have lots of good wolf hunting villagers (you might even be one of them)


i think i already mentioned that i would be OK with hoopy. but he hasnt done anything specifically that gave me a wolf tell. i see him posting little and not having much substance when he does, but there was not alarm bells for me. jkds gave me alarm bells. rascal also did this in a minor way, but at least he posts his thoughts often and is active in helping the village


i'm not going to move off jkds. the village is too inactive for me to expect someone might convince me otherwise

How come you didn't care about ong at the end of the day yesterday?

[a500lbgorilla]

ong just responded in 478 exactly how i thought he should given what i think of him

jkds seems to be forcing it. like the statement that ong just said "No" to, and saying i'm coming after him because i was mad he didnt like my plan. (wtf why would i get mad?). also his argument against post count being a thing doesnt have conviction, just conjecture

What'd you mean by this first line, too?

[a500lbgorilla]

If gabe us write it's a helluva read.

You didn't think there was a chance JKDS flips wolf?

[gabe]

question 1: i believed ong's excuse. i also wasnt going to go after posters in the top half of that postcount list i posted. seemed like a good policy for meta reason and for finding a wolf

question 2: i meant ong's post in 478 was exactly what i was thinking at the time. as i was scrolling to it i thought "yes but no" then ong replied "yes.no". its not a lock village read but in the moment it made me feel better about avoiding lynching ong

[a500lbgorilla]

Well, peek him if you want to, seer. I'll be dead by the time he could be a problem.

All of rong's night posts read to me like he's planting flags, each one claiming a bit of pro-villa land.

[a500lbgorilla]

And based on where I'm at, all of his ong interactions read like he's trying to buy maximal credit from a wolf, who if a wolf, is telling his buddies he doesn't have the juice or footing for this one.

[a500lbgorilla]

All of rong's night posts read to me like he's planting flags, each one claiming a bit of pro-villa land.

Hell, some of his posts open this day in the same vein.

[a500lbgorilla]

Who knows? Probably close this thread out tomorrow. Anything info I think I know today starts to decay quickly after I die.

[OngBonga]

Hi I'm bigred.

[OngBonga]

This is wrapped up, right? I don't actually need to pull my finger out, right?

[OngBonga]

It's difficult for me to believe Hoopy is the vig, I'm just waiting for him to get shot and show up wolf.

How can you think it's a fakeclaim? A wolf claiming vig is stupid, obviously. If hoopy is a wolf he claims seer or angel.

boog isn't this dumb.

[OngBonga]

Ong and wuf have gone to ground. Let's kill them

[enter lame excuse here]

[BooG690]

How can you think it's a fakeclaim? A wolf claiming vig is stupid, obviously. If hoopy is a wolf he claims seer or angel.

boog isn't this dumb.

You're assuming I respect Hoopy's game.

[OngBonga]

Well that's hard to argue with.

Still, I do respect hoopy's game enough to think that if he's a wolf, he's making a claim that at least has some wolf ev.

[OngBonga]

I suppose a vig claim means he protects his buddies.

Alright there's some ev to a fake vig claim.

[OngBonga]

Still, I'm not going to sweat on it.

I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that I'm easily the best lynch.

[OngBonga]

Actually I don't think I should be lynched. I should be shot tonight.

Consider than the seer might get shot by the vig. Well if we try to lynch the seer he can at least claim. I don't mind taking the bullet to thin the numbers down.

lynch wuf

[wufwugy]

Apparently nobody took the Baud bait. Well at least we got Rascal bolding me.



All right gents!

Datwugy be datseery!

Ongie gonna wolfie!

For the slow, I looked up Ong and he's howling.

Whoever wants to be my n2 lookup, holler. I'm looking for a vanilla and I'll take the first person to say they want me to look them up. The vig should shoot somebody not rilla wuf or the person i will look up tonight.

rescind baud lynch ong

[OngBonga]

Bullshit, wolves getting desperate for the seer.

[OngBonga]

It goes without saying that the real seer should not claim.

Lynch me, shoot wuf, ez game.

[wufwugy]

tbh i thought for sure i was getting a vanilla.

[baudib]

lol this might be the worst claim i've ever seen

Wuf, if you're doing this for cover I appreciate it but you don't need to FPS it. thanks

[wufwugy]

I crunched the numbers every way I could. Outing now is less of a risk than risking n2 death (or the cfd that happens to me overnight all the time). Under most circumstances, this gets the cinch on d3.

[baudib]

le sigh

[baudib]

In all seriousness, I'm peeking Rong.

[rong]

I have a horrible hangover and won't be in here for some time.

Rilla, lots of questions. I'll answer later. Need to crawl into a dark cave for now.

[rong]

I'm vanilla. Look me up if you like.

[Hoopy]

You're assuming I respect Hoopy's game.

Brutal honesty for a wolf.

I'm liable to be afk for most of today.

[Hoopy]

Actually I don't think I should be lynched. I should be shot tonight.

Consider than the seer might get shot by the vig. Well if we try to lynch the seer he can at least claim. I don't mind taking the bullet to thin the numbers down.

I'm not going to shoot anyone tonight without a very good reason.

[baudib]

The outed wolves should at least post locats.

[a500lbgorilla]

Best guess.

{a500lbgorilla, baudib, BooG690, gabe, Hoopy, lilrascal, Luco, OngBonga, rong, wufwugy}
{baudib, BooG690, gabe, Hoopy, lilrascal, Luco, OngBonga, rong, wufwugy}
{BooG690, gabe, Hoopy, lilrascal, Luco, OngBonga, rong, wufwugy}
{BooG690, gabe, lilrascal, Luco, OngBonga, rong, wufwugy}
{BooG690, lilrascal, Luco, OngBonga, rong, wufwugy}
{BooG690, lilrascal, OngBonga, rong, wufwugy}
{lilrascal, OngBonga, rong, wufwugy}
{OngBonga, rong, wufwugy}

lynch ongbonga

[a500lbgorilla]

Maybe I'd move Luco down.

[a500lbgorilla]

Maybe not.

[BooG690]

Luco playing a decent wolf game if wolf.

[wufwugy]

I'm vanilla. Look me up if you like.

affirmative.

[baudib]

Best guess.

{a500lbgorilla, baudib, BooG690, gabe, Hoopy, lilrascal, Luco, OngBonga, rong, wufwugy}
{baudib, BooG690, gabe, Hoopy, lilrascal, Luco, OngBonga, rong, wufwugy}
{BooG690, gabe, Hoopy, lilrascal, Luco, OngBonga, rong, wufwugy}
{BooG690, gabe, lilrascal, Luco, OngBonga, rong, wufwugy}
{BooG690, lilrascal, Luco, OngBonga, rong, wufwugy}
{BooG690, lilrascal, OngBonga, rong, wufwugy}
{lilrascal, OngBonga, rong, wufwugy}
{OngBonga, rong, wufwugy}

lynch ongbonga

I think your POE is pretty good. Not sure what to think of Boog really. If, as you suggested, Ong didn't have the juice to carry the wolf team it would make sense that he'd be ulta-bussable/bussy. So I retract my previous statements that they are unlikely W-W.

I'm basically at the ~ same place as you with the rest of the village.

[dhubermex]

There are approximately 45 hours remaining in Day #2

Lynch Vote Count (as of Post #821)

OngBonga - 3
BooG690 - 1
wufwugy - 1

[OngBonga]

I realise noone is going to believe this but I'm the angel. You can thank me after rilla.

I can prove it. Hoopy can shoot me, I'll protect him. If I'm lying, I get shot. If I'm honest, I block hoopy from shooting me.

This is why I've not really given a fuck about looking wolfy. I can stop my lynch by claiming, and I can prove my role by blocking the vig. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't nommed so I could squeeze into endgame.

mvp me

[OngBonga]

lynch boog

[baudib]

LOL this game