May 2015 Werewolf Gameplay Thread

[Luco]

BTW I missed this one earlier.

I've never found the "If I were a wolf, I'd..." defenses because frankly they're usually not true, especially for someone with a wolf range like Ong's.

I know this because I've found myself using that defense as a wolf.

I think we all do it, I have and I know gator uses it a lot

[baudib]

I fail to see how arrogantly telling people their posts are horrible is solving the game.

right, because I haven't posted multiple times ruminating on the possible alignment on every player in the game, giving tons of thoughts in a free-flowing manner from the start of the game until now (6 a.m.)

[rong]

Vc? On phone so can't do it myself.

[gabe]

Actually drew's lack of read on me is damning. Why isn't he trying to own my soul again?

its only slightly damning. theres tons of reasons he just might not care enough to come at you regardless of role


ong since im trying to defend you why dont you do me the favor of joining the wagon im on? you dont have to be scared of a wolf manipulating you here

[baudib]

I think this is accurate

Hoopy - 3 (Rascal, Ong, BID)
JKDS - 3 (Gabe, Boog, Baud)
OngBonga - 3 (Rilla, JKDS, Rong)
BankItDrew - 1(Wuf)


not voting: Luco

[gabe]

i think its jkds 3, hoopy 3, ong 4


edit: i guess im wrong here

[OngBonga]

BTW I missed this one earlier.

I've never found the "If I were a wolf, I'd..." defenses because frankly they're usually not true, especially for someone with a wolf range like Ong's.

I know this because I've found myself using that defense as a wolf.

I'll use these kind of defences as both wolf and villager. But look at it from my pov... I get up today, and see that I'm not in as much trouble as before I went to bed. Great. Then I start talking. What does that tell you? That I'd be better off not talking. If I'm a wolf, that's exactly what I'd do, because I don't need to talk, I have an excuse to not talk. I've claimed.

But actually I'm trying to shift my frame of mind from frustrated to engaged. I'm trying to get my head into this game. You're not making it easy for me baudib.

[OngBonga]

gabe, I'm uneasy lynching jkds on d1. If push comes to shove and it's me or him, then sure.

[Luco]

lynch ong

Sorry gabe

[baudib]

i missed hoopy's vote

OngBonga - 4 (Rilla, JKDS, Rong, Hoopy)
Hoopy - 3 (Rascal, Ong, BID)
JKDS - 3 (Gabe, Boog, Baud)
BankItDrew - 1(Wuf)


not voting: Luco

[gabe]

baud its hilarious that we are like the 2 confirmed villagers, and we are on a wagon with only 3 votes. what the hell. obviously wolves are more likely to be on other wagons, not this one.

if your name isnt boog or baud or gabe, then you are on a wagon with a wolf on it !!!

[baudib]

I'll use these kind of defences as both wolf and villager. But look at it from my pov... I get up today, and see that I'm not in as much trouble as before I went to bed. Great. Then I start talking. What does that tell you? That I'd be better off not talking. If I'm a wolf, that's exactly what I'd do, because I don't need to talk, I have an excuse to not talk. I've claimed.

But actually I'm trying to shift my frame of mind from frustrated to engaged. I'm trying to get my head into this game. You're not making it easy for me baudib.

you need to talk to Luco not me

[baudib]

OngBonga - 5 (Rilla, JKDS, Rong, Hoopy, Luco)
Hoopy - 3 (Rascal, Ong, BID)
JKDS - 3 (Gabe, Boog, Baud)
BankItDrew - 1(Wuf)

[gabe]

expecting yall to quote post 536, type "agree / rescind / lynch jkds" in 3... 2....

[OngBonga]

luco isn't the one chipping away at my enthusiasm. I don't care if people think I'm a wolf. It's the relentless nature of your arrogance that's doing my nut. Is this what I used to look like to everyone else?

[a500lbgorilla]

lynch jkds

[rong]

luco isn't the one chipping away at my enthusiasm. I don't care if people think I'm a wolf. It's the relentless nature of your arrogance that's doing my nut. Is this what I used to look like to everyone else?

Yes.

[gabe]

townbro ong dont worry about it, lets hunt a wolf

[baudib]

luco isn't the one chipping away at my enthusiasm. I don't care if people think I'm a wolf. It's the relentless nature of your arrogance that's doing my nut. Is this what I used to look like to everyone else?

you would have been better off just lurking. I don't even know how to defend you at this point.

[OngBonga]

Of course I'd have been better off lurking. Shows how stupid the village is, doesn't it?

[gabe]

im hoping we get some rilla wisdom incoming. that or he just sleepvoted jkds which would also be acceptable

[Luco]

baud its hilarious that we are like the 2 confirmed villagers, and we are on a wagon with only 3 votes. what the hell. obviously wolves are more likely to be on other wagons, not this one.

if your name isnt boog or baud or gabe, then you are on a wagon with a wolf on it !!!

I'm not sure about boog. And wolves vote for wolves plenty.

[baudib]

4-4

Rong, let's give Gabe his lynch. I've never claimed to be a soul reader.

[rong]

Looks like jkds is gonna get it. Ong will obv switch.

[OngBonga]

lynch jkds

rilla surprises me, but it gives me hope. Self preservation means it's me or jkds. I don't fancy my chances tbh.

[OngBonga]

Looks like jkds is gonna get it. Ong will obv switch.

yup

[Hoopy]

Gabe's soul read + lack of engagement + "measured words" (Luco) + seeming inability to be interested in a 450-post game + sketchballs refuse to even mention his name

Hmmm that's a good summary. Lets see where this goes.

rescind ong

lynch JKDS

[rong]

If gabe us write it's a helluva read.

[rong]

That's a done deal. No time for that many switches without a major retard moment from somebody.

[OngBonga]

rescind

jkds you lurking? I'm holding my vote to allow you to post.

[Hoopy]

Follow the crowd why don't I.

That's 6 for JKDS!

[rong]

That said, I expect a jkds wall of text to be incoming.

[baudib]

thoughts that have been creeping for the past hour

- Hoopy is the wolf that everyone will call a wolf all game and not be committed to pushing or he's the mislynch the wolves wanted
- Boog may have super owned me

JKDS flip will be HIGHLY illuminating

[Luco]

Follow the crowd why don't I.

That's 6 for JKDS!

It's 7 to lynch though, right?

[rong]

Yeah 7 Luco, but time is ticking.

[OngBonga]

I don't like hoopy's change of heart.

[Hoopy]

It's 7 to lynch though, right?

Yeah, I just wanted to make sure nobody tossed another vote on without realizing he was L-1.

[OngBonga]

We should be lynching hoopy.

[rong]

We should be lynching hoopy.

We should be lynching you.

[OngBonga]

We should be lynching you.

It's actually hard to argue with this. I mean I'm not special, while jkds might be. It's super strange that jkds has gone into the lead here, and it probably hints that he's a villager.

[OngBonga]

lynch hoopy

[gabe]

love all the end of day wagon dynamics. its like musical chairs. dont get caught without a seat

[Hoopy]

I don't like hoopy's change of heart.

You'd prefer I'd go back to voting for you?

The only thing you've done to me that's weird is pointing out wuf's supposed crumb, and I'm biased because of the last time we were wolves you did something odd then tried to use that as a defense.

[OngBonga]

It's not about what I prefer you to do hoopy, it's what you should do. That change of vote lacked any kind of sincerity, and looked to me like you moving in for a mistpump mislynch.

[gabe]

i agree about hoopy but im not getting tricked into changing at this point. i feel like hoopy had been lurking waiting for an opportunity to do something. just gotta figure out what he was thinking

[OngBonga]

I feel like if jkds was a wolf, I'd be in the lead, not him.

[Luco]

You'd prefer I'd go back to voting for you?

The only thing you've done to me that's weird is pointing out wuf's supposed crumb, and I'm biased because of the last time we were wolves you did something odd then tried to use that as a defense.

Thats the second time you've used the word weird on this page. It's a shallow descriptor and the last time I caught you using it you were a wolf.

[rong]

Jkds is typically hard to lynch. He's also worth saving for any wolf team. Which makes me agree with you ong that he is probably town.

[Hoopy]

JKDS flip will be HIGHLY illuminating

love all the end of day wagon dynamics. its like musical chairs. dont get caught without a seat

It makes for a better game at anyrate. If we all vote BID because he's inactive nothing will change and the debates tomorrow will all be about the same questions.

[OngBonga]

How long is left? I need to go out. I make it 2hrs, is that right?

[rong]

I think it's 2pm our time ong. That's going from mods latest post.

[OngBonga]

Alright I'll be back in an hour.

[dhubermex]

There are approximately 2 hours remaining in Day 1.

Vote Count (as of Post #571)

JKDS - 5
Hoopy - 3
OngBonga - 3
BankItDrew - 1

7 Votes required for majority lynch. If no majority can be reached by 9am ET Thursday, then the player who received the most votes will be lynched. Ties are broken by who reached the tying number first among the lynch candidates.

Day 1 Vote Chart (Rescinds in parentheses)

a500lbgorilla - (gabe),, (OngBonga),, JKDS
BankItDrew - (wufwugy),, Hoopy
baudib - (Hoopy),, (OngBonga),, (Hoopy),, JKDS
BooG690 - (JKDS),, (OngBonga),, JKDS
gabe - (lilrascal),, JKDS
Hoopy - (OngBonga),, JKDS
JKDS - OngBonga
lilrascal - (wufwugy),, Hoopy
Luco - OngBonga
OngBonga - (baudib),, (Hoopy),, (JKDS),, Hoopy
rong - OngBonga
wufwugy - (gabe),, BankItDrew

[Luco]

Jkds is typically hard to lynch. He's also worth saving for any wolf team. Which makes me agree with you ong that he is probably town.

Well it was a pretty recent push and it came from a likely villager (gabe) so I'm not willing to town jkds on this alone.

That said, I still prefer ong and I wouldn't mind a swing back to him

[Hoopy]

It's not about what I prefer you to do hoopy, it's what you should do. That change of vote lacked any kind of sincerity, and looked to me like you moving in for a mistpump mislynch.

JKDS is better choice than you right now, there's no certainty he's a wolf though.

Thats the second time you've used the word weird on this page. It's a shallow descriptor and the last time I caught you using it you were a wolf.

How would you describe it?

[BooG690]

If/when JKDS flips wolf, I'm bolding BID and never changing. Ong is creeping up my radar with his odd play.

Baud/Gabe on the same V-team isn't even fair. Love it.

[baudib]

Shooting Hoopy or BID, regardless of JKDS flip, has to be profitable.

actually let me nuance that a bit

if JKDS flips wolf I'd shoot BID
if JKDS flips village I'd shoot Hoopy

[baudib]

Theory is that if W Hoopy sees V JKDS take the lead there he's not stepping out of the shadows to make it a runaway.

[baudib]

so i'd revise my previous statement

hoopy a decent shot regardless of flip

Ong, Wuf could be hero shots.

[Luco]

JKDS is better choice than you right now, there's no certainty he's a wolf though.

How would you describe it?

His play has been special, though maybe not in a ww sense

In fairness, you did expand in the second post. The first one was very vague 'doing weird stuff'

[OngBonga]

Well this is exciting.

[OngBonga]

I doubt the wolves just shrug their shoulders and accept jkds dying on d1 if he's one of them.

Let's lynch hoopy.

[Hoopy]

so i'd revise my previous statement

hoopy a decent shot regardless of flip

Ong, Wuf could be hero shots.

Well I'm obviously not endorsing shooting me, and hero shots are risky. I'd say drew is a good shot tonight because of the danger of him being a distraction in future days or ending up in the endgame inactive.

[OngBonga]

In what sense is he a distraction? Why more so than anyone else? What is this "distraction" thing in the context of werewolf?

[Luco]

Who else is online?

[rong]

He is a distraction if he doesn't really participate. He becomes a problem we need to get rid of at the expense of the far better information we gain from a more normal lynching where we can analyse the wagon post event.

[Luco]

That said, I expect a jkds wall of text to be incoming.

I guess not.

[rong]

Someone should shoot ong.

[rong]

Considering the amount if action around jkds/hoopy/ong getting 2 reveals out if them would be enlightening.

[dhubermex]

Day 1 has ended.

JKDS has been lynched. He was a Regular Villager.

11 Players Remaining

5 Regular Villagers
1 Angel
1 Seer
1 Vigilante
3 Wolves

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Night #1 has begun!

Specials and Wolves have 24 hours to complete their actions (please submit to me via PM).

Nighttime posting IS allowed.

[OngBonga]

Someone should shoot hoopy.

I agree.

[rong]

Can't say I'm surprised. Jkds's reputation will mean wolves will be happy. Bound to be some on the wagon. Towards the end there was little point piling on so not switching to jkds late is not indicative of being a villager. Ongs switch is obv nit incriminating due to self preservation, but his rescind is gets no v points as it didn't make a difference and he could easily switch back if he was under pressure without looking bad due to self pres.

[rong]

Hoopy 's jkds vote seems stupid if he's a wolf.

Given ong was the counter wagon knowing his role would be very useful for analysing the wagon.

Ong is number one preference for the vig because of this.

[rong]

Angel and seer should randomise between gabe, rilla and baudib.

If all three of those are wolves we're fucked anyway.

[rong]

I think this has been the most enjoyable day one of any game I've played. Not sure why.