May 2015 Werewolf Gameplay Thread

[BankItDrew]

rescind wuf
lynch hoopy
gabe walking the line with offering bets

[dhubermex]

There are approximately 6.5 hours remaining in Day 1.

Vote Count (as of Post #450)

Hoopy - 3
JKDS - 2
OngBonga - 2
BankItDrew - 1
wufwugy - 1

7 Votes required for majority lynch. If no majority can be reached by 9am ET Thursday, then the player who received the most votes will be lynched. Ties are broken by who reached the tying number first among the lynch candidates.

Day 1 Vote Chart (Rescinds in parentheses)

a500lbgorilla - (gabe),, OngBonga
BankItDrew - wufwugy
baudib - (Hoopy),, (OngBonga),, Hoopy
BooG690 - (JKDS),, (OngBonga),, JKDS
gabe - (lilrascal),, JKDS
Hoopy -
JKDS - OngBonga
lilrascal - (wufwugy),, Hoopy
Luco
OngBonga - (baudib),, Hoopy
rong
wufwugy - (gabe),, BankItDrew

[baudib]

rescind wuf
lynch hoopy
gabe walking the line with offering bets

DRUDGESIREN.GIF

wolfy fkn post my lord

[BankItDrew]

How is that wolfy? Just an observation on something that probably shouldn't be done.

[baudib]

It is wolfy more for what isn't said.

it basically summarizes a whole range of wolfy behavior:

1. spite vote for Wuf even though you have apparently already identified a wolf (Rascal, whose wagon you did nothing to push at all)
2. wolfy pile on for hoopy with no explanation
3. no mention of JKDS as possible candidate
4. total non sequitur about Gabe

[rong]

3pm UK time is day end. I'll be involved long before then.

[rong]

2pm, sorry.

[Hoopy]

Must restrain urge to spite vote drew.

lynch ong for doing weird stuff.

[JKDS]

Im pretty confident Gabe, Rilla, and Rascal are all villagers at this point. I kinda like Rong for village too. Ong and Baudib both look wolfy tho.

[baudib]

The resistance to the JKDS wagon is ... palpable.

The fact that viable wagons aren't even talking about JKDS is sketching me out.

Trust in Gabe.

And if JKDS flips wolf we certainly don't have to go far to find the next one.

Will be awesome to wake up to 2 dead wolves and game nearly solved on D2.

lynch JKDS

[Hoopy]

*potentially

If wuf says something, there's nothing potential about it. If wuf isn't a wolf, then the wolves will no doubt be asking if his first post is or isn't a crumb. I haven't helped them, I've given them a headache.

Assuming the wolves can find the crumb this soon, I'm not even sure I follow what the crumb was supposed to be.

hey it's a game.

This post?

[rong]

If jkds is a wolf that's a fantastic read from gabe.

[Hoopy]

The resistance to the JKDS wagon is ... palpable.

The fact that viable wagons aren't even talking about JKDS is sketching me out.

Trust in Gabe.

And if JKDS flips wolf we certainly don't have to go far to find the next one.

Will be awesome to wake up to 2 dead wolves and game nearly solved on D2.

lynch JKDS

Can you give me a quick summary or point to one of why JKDS is wolfin? Something to do with a gif?

[rong]

I prefer ong to jkds. I mean I like the way gave has created the case, and he's has done pretty much nothing so far and worse still popped in at the mention of his name. But I'm not sure I believe the case is particularly strong against him.

I see a potential link between gabe and ong. Gabe is laying off ong, which is one thing, but by using ong 's "wasted" excuse himself he has legitimises one's use of it.


Now I think the I was high excuse for stupidity given by ong is bullshit. The dude is always high, literally always. It hasn't caused a brain fart like that before. However he does have history of playing up when he's a wolf. And I've watched him fuck up tremendously as a wolf before through fps.

If given a choice of jkds or ong I choose ong all day. Hoopy is a meh lynch, not much there really but not doing a great deal to get out of it either.

[rong]

The typos in that post make it a little hard to read. Am I allowed to go back and fix them? I'm still not certain on the rules about that, I know it's been batted about as both a capital offence and nothing to worry about.

[baudib]

Can you give me a quick summary or point to one of why JKDS is wolfin? Something to do with a gif?

Gabe's soul read + lack of engagement + "measured words" (Luco) + seeming inability to be interested in a 450-post game + sketchballs refuse to even mention his name

[baudib]

I prefer ong to jkds. I mean I like the way gave has created the case, and he's has done pretty much nothing so far and worse still popped in at the mention of his name. But I'm not sure I believe the case is particularly strong against him.

I see a potential link between gabe and ong. Gabe is laying off ong, which is one thing, but by using ong 's "wasted" excuse himself he has legitimises one's use of it.


Now I think the I was high excuse for stupidity given by ong is bullshit. The dude is always high, literally always. It hasn't caused a brain fart like that before. However he does have history of playing up when he's a wolf. And I've watched him fuck up tremendously as a wolf before through fps.

If given a choice of jkds or ong I choose ong all day. Hoopy is a meh lynch, not much there really but not doing a great deal to get out of it either.

I mean I think you are exactly where I was about 24 hours ago.

[JKDS]

I called out Gabe's plan as dumb, he got butthurt, read all my posts, then decided that If i was a wolf, his plan would still be good.

This game is silly.

[OngBonga]

I prefer hoopy to JKDS. dan has nothing to say about hoopy, it's all ong vs jkds, which has me thinking dan is trying to turn this away from hoopy.

Yes I'm always high. Well nearly always. I'm not right now. I've just woken up. But I'll be high once I've made a cup of tea. But sometimes I'm more high than other times. Sometimes I've just gotten back from a festival and all I want to do is laze around in my underwear smoking bong after bong while watching shit on tv. I'm not even trying to use high to excuse my behaviour as townie, seeing as it's null. I'm just pointing out why my bahvious is bizarre, regardless of which angle you view it from.

Anyway, I like rong for wolf if hoopy is one.

[JKDS]

What you got against hoops? (Omg now JKDS is defending hoopy, where will it end?)

[rong]

Ong, break down a hooopy lynch for me please?

[OngBonga]

Just curious why this is a concern for you both just a couple of hours before deadline. Why didn't anyone but baudib call me out on my naked hoopy vote at the time?

I feel like our best chances of hitting a wolf is to lynch from hoopy, jkds, rong, luco, wuf, drew.

drew is pure random shot, wuf and luco are emerging as town reads, jkds is too strong to risk on d1, rong has that same argument to a lesser degree, leaving hoopy as the prime lynch imo.

Also his post before I voted for him pinged to fuck, I mean he just waffles about some idea that gabe has and then doesn't even reach a conclusion, just says worth thinking about or whatever. Pure filler.

Out of the options, he's best imo.

So to dan, why not hoopy?

[JKDS]

No, I dont believe that you think the best chances of finding a wolf are in the bottom 6 posters. You're too smart for that. You know as well as I do that each of these players, even wuf lately, has a tendency to be quiet day 1 regardless of role. (sometimes, quiet throughout). You know its not role indicative, so it doesnt follow that you believe its wolfy for them to be quiet.

I call bs.

[OngBonga]

You think that I give a toss about post count?

I call bs.

[OngBonga]

I'm not calling them wolfy for being quiet. I'm calling them wolfy mainly because of PoE... I have six town reads, which I have already explained.

[JKDS]

Its the same group that gabe called out, because of post count. Thats exactly why you're targetting them.

[baudib]

I was thinking of making a post appealing to Rong to let Ong wait another day. But reading these posts make me wanna go back to lynching Ong. what to do, what to do.

[OngBonga]

Its the same group that gabe called out, because of post count. Thats exactly why you're targetting them.

Yes. No.

[rong]

lynch ongbonga

[OngBonga]

baudib do what you like, I really don't care. I tell you this though... it's 10.30am and rarely do I get up before midday. If I were a wolf, I'd just lurk out the day so long as I wasn't getting votes.

[baudib]

what's the vote count?

[rong]

You're deliberately misrepresenting my stance.

[rong]

Fucking quoting and responding bit by bit is such a fucking pain in the ass on a phone.

[OngBonga]

You're deliberately misrepresenting my stance.

Elaborate.

[Luco]

I was thinking of making a post appealing to Rong to let Ong wait another day. But reading these posts make me wanna go back to lynching Ong. what to do, what to do.

I went to bed last night thinking ong should probably be seered, but I’m not sure what giving him another day would accomplish. even if he is village he’s going to be something of a distraction.

[gabe]

ong just responded in 478 exactly how i thought he should given what i think of him

jkds seems to be forcing it. like the statement that ong just said "No" to, and saying i'm coming after him because i was mad he didnt like my plan. (wtf why would i get mad?). also his argument against post count being a thing doesnt have conviction, just conjecture

[OngBonga]

luco feels like a vulture circling above a dying animal here.

[gabe]

like before i scrolled down to 478 i was thinking "probably yes to the force part, and no to the second part because jkds is twisting it"

this makes me trust ong more, for now

[rong]

Just curious why this is a concern for you both just a couple of hours before deadline. Why didn't anyone but baudib call me out on my naked hoopy vote at the time?

It's this bit.

I've never been keen on a hooopy lynch because I don't see him as wolfy atm. He doesn't strike me as villagery either, he's done nothing to say me egalitarian way, but at least he is paying attention and posting. I put bid in the same level of wolfiness but we have nothing to go on with him which is why I prefer him to hooopy.

But if we aren't going for bid, ie neutral read but annoying for later, then you are a better bet than hoopy who is also a neutral read imo.

I feel like our best chances of hitting a wolf is to lynch from hoopy, jkds, rong, luco, wuf, drew.

drew is pure random shot, wuf and luco are emerging as town reads, jkds is too strong to risk on d1, rong has that same argument to a lesser degree, leaving hoopy as the prime lynch imo.

Also his post before I voted for him pinged to fuck, I mean he just waffles about some idea that gabe has and then doesn't even reach a conclusion, just says worth thinking about or whatever. Pure filler.

Out of the options, he's best imo.

So to dan, why not hoopy?

[rong]

Day me egalitarian = sway me either

[rong]

Perhaps misrepresenting is wrong. More wording things in a way which leads to a slightly more sinister interpretation than is necessary.

[Luco]

luco feels like a vulture circling above a dying animal here.

Cute. I don't think you can argue my point though.

[OngBonga]

drew is not an option for today.

[OngBonga]

Cute. I don't think you can argue my point though.

What point, that I'm a distraction? So is everyone who might be a wolf, which from every villager's pov, is everyone.

[gabe]

ong i feel like rong is not suspicious. its hard for anyone to say much about hoopy since hoopy doesnt give much away

[Luco]

It's this bit.

I've never been keen on a hooopy lynch because I don't see him as wolfy atm. He doesn't strike me as villagery either, he's done nothing to say me egalitarian way, but at least he is paying attention and posting. I put bid in the same level of wolfiness but we have nothing to go on with him which is why I prefer him to hooopy.

But if we aren't going for bid, ie neutral read but annoying for later, then you are a better bet than hoopy who is also a neutral read imo.

We had a late swing for bid last game and he flipped seer. I dont want to move focus from ong / hoopy / wuf / jkds

[OngBonga]

Perhaps misrepresenting is wrong. More wording things in a way which leads to a slightly more sinister interpretation than is necessary.

Well that's the nature of the game. If you're a villager, well I don't know that yet, so I'm going to assume a sinister motive when you suggest that this is between me and jkds while putting hoopy to one side, so close to deadline. I feel like there's a good shot at a wolf between jkds and hoopy, because I'm back in trouble after seemingly slipping my neck out of the noose.

[baudib]

you know what pinged me the most about Ong in this latest sequence? Him overexplaining his persistent stonedness. as if any of us ever doubted that.

[baudib]

and Rong is 100% correct in that he plays that up when he's a wolf.

that said, JKDS slinked out of the conversation while adding nothing.

[Luco]

What point, that I'm a distraction? So is everyone who might be a wolf, which from every villager's pov, is everyone.

It's only everyone to start with. Then you adjust.

So what do we do with people who might be a wolf ong?

[OngBonga]

you know what pinged me the most about Ong in this latest sequence? Him overexplaining his persistent stonedness. as if any of us ever doubted that.

I was responding to dan. You'd probably say I'm wolfy if I totally ignored it, right?

[rong]

Vc anyone?

[OngBonga]

It's only everyone to start with. Then you adjust.

So what do we do with people who might be a wolf ong?

Lynch them.

Let's lynch everyone.

[baudib]

I was responding to dan. You'd probably say I'm wolfy if I totally ignored it, right?

can you try to not post horribly for the next 3 hours?

[OngBonga]

can you try to not post horribly for the next 3 hours?

ffs this is what I mean by sapping enthusiasm.

How about you don't post like a cunt?

[rong]

Ong is less aggressive than normal as well.

[rong]

Lol

[baudib]

ffs this is what I mean by sapping enthusiasm.

How about you don't post like a cunt?

I'm trying to solve the game. How did you refer to whatever it is you're doing?

get yourself lynched for all i care.

[Luco]

and Rong is 100% correct in that he plays that up when he's a wolf.

that said, JKDS slinked out of the conversation while adding nothing.

In the last game jkds was all over mojo from the B in bang. This game he's only woken up when he had to.

[rong]

Fucking clients. I'm gone for an hour.

[baudib]

In the last game jkds was all over mojo from the B in bang. This game he's only woken up when he had to.

it hasn't gone unnoticed.

I'm not sure if you answered when I asked you early on...what do you think of Gabe?

I'm pretty much all-in on Gabe being a villager here.

[Luco]

And yeah he's got law stuff but he's had law stuff every damn game for years now

[baudib]

that's probably the best post Luco's made all game.

[gabe]

ong is a wildcard but lets keep him. way better for the game than hoopy right now. i'm sticking on jkds because theres more of a read there about him than anyone else in the bucket of potential wolves

[baudib]

And yeah he's got law stuff but he's had law stuff every damn game for years now

JKDS was pretty damn excited about playing Loki, too. So we can possibly rule out deep cover as a special. I may have a knowledge advantage in this area though.

[gabe]

I'm pretty much all-in on Gabe being a villager here.

thats a good read. i know it

[baudib]

and by that I mean I was exchanging messages with JKDS quite a bit. I'm not sure how active he was in the thread early on in that game. worth a look.

[Luco]

it hasn't gone unnoticed.

I'm not sure if you answered when I asked you early on...what do you think of Gabe?

I'm pretty much all-in on Gabe being a villager here.

Gabe can lead the village by the nose as a wolf, I've seen him do it (gabe, that game where I seered you and sat in silence for half a day while you led us on a merry dance)

But I'm still pretty comfortable that he's a villager. His enthusiasm is hard to fake

[Luco]

Oh and his 'bottom posters' plan has echoes of his 'catch and release' idea a few games back. He was villager there.

[baudib]

Quick perusal of Vikings game has JKDS "nowhere to be found." kinda interesting. But Loki is a wolf and a special so not sure what to make of that.

also of note from Vikings game, Ong being called "TWTBAW" (by Dhuber) but he was really TWTBAV.

also of note, BID was all up in Ong's shit, proclaiming he was an expert Ong reader.

[baudib]

Im pretty confident Gabe, Rilla, and Rascal are all villagers at this point. I kinda like Rong for village too. Ong and Baudib both look wolfy tho.

ITP JKDS lays out his elaborate reads, so just in case he dies and flips villager we can refer back and thank him for his contributions.

There was also a gif or something, too, and calling Gabe butthurt. gage

[OngBonga]

Actually drew's lack of read on me is damning. Why isn't he trying to own my soul again?

[baudib]

baudib do what you like, I really don't care. I tell you this though... it's 10.30am and rarely do I get up before midday. If I were a wolf, I'd just lurk out the day so long as I wasn't getting votes.

BTW I missed this one earlier.

I've never found the "If I were a wolf, I'd..." defenses because frankly they're usually not true, especially for someone with a wolf range like Ong's.

I know this because I've found myself using that defense as a wolf.

[baudib]

Actually drew's lack of read on me is damning. Why isn't he trying to own my soul again?

I agree. You've been the subject of oh, just about every controversy in the game so far.

[OngBonga]

I'm trying to solve the game. How did you refer to whatever it is you're doing?

get yourself lynched for all i care.

I fail to see how arrogantly telling people their posts are horrible is solving the game.