Randomness thread, part two.

[spoonitnow]

The problem is that raising money for charity shouldn't be fun.

I'm going to go ahead and stop you here. There is no reason that raising money for charity shouldn't be fun. As a matter of fact, making it fun will likely increase the total amount raised for charity. This is a very strong argument towards making it fun.

[OngBonga]

I'm going to go ahead and stop you here. There is no reason that raising money for charity shouldn't be fun. As a matter of fact, making it fun will likely increase the total amount raised for charity. This is a very strong argument towards making it fun.

You should probably have read the rest of the post, and then you'd have been aware that it was tongue in cheek.

On another note, this is how to swear like an Englishman...

[oskar]

You should probably have read the rest of the post, and then you'd have been aware that it was tongue in cheek.

On another note, this is how to swear like an Englishman...

I'd like a moment alone with the great gangly fuck-knuckled twat greasy head cuntbag who cancelled that show mid season.

[OngBonga]

I think his name is Jeremy.

[BooG690]

So will you guys sponsor me?

I make it a point to not give to charities.

[rong]

You know the weird thing, because of the fact that I'd feel uncomfortable with the money I raised for charity paying for the trip, I'm more inclined to just pay for the trip myself which actually leaves the charity worse off than if I actually spent half the money raised but oddly leaves me feeling better.

[OngBonga]

I'll give five pounds to charity if you film yourself putting your head in the toilet and flushing.

[spoonitnow]

You should probably have read the rest of the post, and then you'd have been aware that it was tongue in cheek.

On another note, this is how to swear like an Englishman...

lol I'm sorry, I was joking. In retrospect, I realize I wasn't obvious enough about it, so I apologize for that. I thought you'd see it as me following along with your sarcasm, etc.

[OngBonga]

I can never really tell with you. I think I'm at the point where I assume everything you post is you trolling, and I indulge you.

[a500lbgorilla]

There is a well known negativity bias in people. Evolution followed the logic that negative things can threaten your life, while positive things can not, in equal measure, improve it. Or, as has been said, a single cockroach can ruin a bowl of cherries, while a single cherry does nothing to improve the appeal of a bowl of cockroaches.

On that, let's remind ourselves about that Rollingstone-UVa rape kerfuffle. http://www.richardbradley.net/shotsi...-lack-thereof/

[spoonitnow]

There is a well known negativity bias in people. Evolution followed the logic that negative things can threaten your life, while positive things can not, in equal measure, improve it. Or, as has been said, a single cockroach can ruin a bowl of cherries, while a single cherry does nothing to improve the appeal of a bowl of cockroaches.

On that, let's remind ourselves about that Rollingstone-UVa rape kerfuffle. http://www.richardbradley.net/shotsi...-lack-thereof/

http://www.returnofkings.com/60848/r...e-way-of-facts

[aubreymcfate]

it's really sad when a) an adult woman blatantly lies about something that other women actually experience and are terrified to speak publicly about and b) the media's primary concern is sensationalism and quantity of readership, not truth.

also i'm sure there is a toxic element to frat culture (similar to whatever the fuck was going on in Steubenville) but frat culture at its best is actually really awesome and a great experience for guys. Erdley wasn't off-base to apologize to rape victims who probably feel more pressured into silence than ever, but she definitely should be apologizing with equal gravity to the fraternity.

in a perfect world the news media is run by A.I. that collate all pertinent facts and firsthand documents and let people figure it out for themselves. i'm here to change the world with my overly simplistic solutions.

[a500lbgorilla]

http://www.returnofkings.com/60848/r...e-way-of-facts

http://www.richardbradley.net/shotsi...-lack-thereof/

[a500lbgorilla]

it's really sad when a) an adult woman blatantly lies about something that other women actually experience and are terrified to speak publicly about and b) the media's primary concern is sensationalism and quantity of readership, not truth.

also i'm sure there is a toxic element to frat culture (similar to whatever the fuck was going on in Steubenville) but frat culture at its best is actually really awesome and a great experience for guys. Erdley wasn't off-base to apologize to rape victims who probably feel more pressured into silence than ever, but she definitely should be apologizing with equal gravity to the fraternity.

in a perfect world the news media is run by A.I. that collate all pertinent facts and firsthand documents and let people figure it out for themselves. i'm here to change the world with my overly simplistic solutions.

Now, now, don't go missing the lesson in all of this.

[aubreymcfate]

Why not bold the subsequent line too then?

[a500lbgorilla]

Or maybe I'll bold the more meaningful part

it's really sad when a) an adult woman blatantly lies about something that other women actually experience and are terrified to speak publicly about and b) the media's primary concern is sensationalism and quantity of readership, not truth.

also i'm sure there is a toxic element to frat culture (similar to whatever the fuck was going on in Steubenville) but frat culture at its best is actually really awesome and a great experience for guys. Erdley wasn't off-base to apologize to rape victims who probably feel more pressured into silence than ever, but she definitely should be apologizing with equal gravity to the fraternity.

in a perfect world the news media is run by A.I. that collate all pertinent facts and firsthand documents and let people figure it out for themselves. i'm here to change the world with my overly simplistic solutions.

There are two things that are beautifully crystallized through this episode. First, that people are blinded by faith, and that faith takes many forms. In this episode, it's a complete faith in Rape Culture and all the SJW bullshit that orbits it. And two, learn Darwin's lesson - ignore the stuff that tells you you're right, that's what you use to sell your ideas to others; just between you and you, look only for evidence that tells you you're wrong.

So don't pretend you're sure of something you aren't sure of.

[aubreymcfate]

I agree with that methodology. In my defense I'm typing on a forum so when I say things like "I'm sure," it's just me thinking aloud and typing conversationally. I mentioned Steubenville because that is a clear case where there is evidently something toxic in that town that made those boys feel entitled to rape an incapacitated girl film it. I would not be surprised if this same toxic element was found in some fraternities, but that's literally just me making an intuitive association in my head. In no way does that mean that because I find it entirely believable that this toxic brand of misogyny is more probable in a fraternity that I would blindly believe that a fraternity did do this without proper evidence.

Anyway, like I said, I think fraternities are great. My brother was the president of his, so I know firsthand what it's done for him, I've partied with them, they're fucking awesome. At the same time, and I know this from what my brother has said about other fraternities (because I remember remarking to him how incredibly cool his was and how it didn't fit the negative stereotype of frats), there are frats full of the hyper-aggro douchebros. This is why I wouldn't be surprised if that toxicity existed in some frats, but again, that's not in place of actual investigative work when you're examining what happened with a specific fraternity. I have no problem with masculinity or hyper-masculinity or any of that. But there are positive manifestations of things, and bad manifestations. You could make the same claim for sororities.

I find Jessica Valenti's claim that perhaps we should consider banning fraternities to be fundamentally flawed. Not my style. Very reductive way of approaching the situation, IMO.

[aubreymcfate]

Rolling Stone ran with a fake story because a girl lied and because people blindly believe things rather than scrutinizing everything no matter what. They didn't go out looking for it. I'm sure if they did they would have found something.

There are a lot of aggro douchebags in fraternities. When you have a fraternity energized by these kinds of assholes, yeah, I think it's fucking dangerous. This in no way means fraternities are inherently misogynistic. You could make similar claims for sororities and the kind of awful women that make some them of them up. There are problems unique to these kinds of groups given the nature of them. There's a reason stereotypes exist.

Again, my thinking this in no way means that I think all fraternities are like this, or that it's at all acceptable to blindly believe that a fraternity is like this without hard evidence. Valenti's shitty logic is not my problem.

Of course I might be wrong. I'm telling you what I think based on my world experience -- what I know, have seen, have heard, etc. None if it is grounds for unjustifiable accusations or assumptions.

And it's not a "faith." It's like, my opinion, man. And opinion that is always open to change because again, I agree with the methodology of constantly trying to prove one's self wrong. You're inviting discussion on a forum and then attacking me because I'm telling you my personal intuition about something.

If you think it's wrong, please, tell me why. I genuinely would love to know.

[aubreymcfate]

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/2438...ay-with-dildo/

RAPE CULTURE ALERT

[a500lbgorilla]

I deleted my post because there's really no reason to follow my line of thinking. I did its best sales-job one post back.

But this line is their exact same reasoning too. And exactly what I mean by faith.

They didn't go out looking for it. I'm sure if they did they would have found something.

They did go out looking for it.

6) Sabrina Rubin Erdely is a terrible journalist, part II.In the Columbia report, Erdely explains that if she had spoken to the three friends whom Jackie encountered on the night in question—as she should have—and the three friends contradicted Jackie’s story—as, of course, they later would—she would have instantly abandoned Jackie and gone in search of a rape victim free of those “contradictions.”
As the report puts it:
If Erdely had learned Ryan’s account that Jackie had fabricated their conversation, she would have changed course immediately, to research other UVA rape cases free of such contradictions, she said later.
(Note how the word “contradictions” is actually here a euphemism for “lies.”)
Let’s consider that for a moment, because it sounds virtuous, but isn’t. Sabrin Rubin Erdely started with a thesis and went in search of someone—and some place—that fit her thesis. She found Jackie and the University of Virginia. But, she admits, if she had discovered that Jackie was a liar, it wouldn’t have caused her to question her thesis. (To which the only response is, if that doesn’t cause you to question your thesis, what would?) Instead, she’d just go find another person who would better conform to what she already wanted to write.
And if that person proved to be a fraud as well, she’d find another…and another…
I am not a lawyer, so I don’t know if Phi Psi has a strong case against Erdely and Rolling Stone. But if the famed “actual malice” test—you are intending to defame someone—is relevant, it seems to me that Erdely has just given the fraternity some explicit evidence of such malice. Even if her “victim” was a liar, Erdely has no doubt: Frat boys are rapists.

http://www.richardbradley.net/shotsi...-lack-thereof/

[aubreymcfate]

I'm not convinced that they couldn't find something if they really tried (I mean really, you can find anything anywhere, lol) but fair enough. Terrible journalism, I agree.

The difference between them and me is that I would never use that as a justification for that kind of terrible journalism. It's beyond intellectually dishonest. And I am an intellectual girlscout.

Also I don't think their line of reasoning is the same as mine, tbh. Mine in no way justifies any kind of assumption or biased journalism. Their line of reasoning has to be fundamentally a little different for it to bleed into their method of investigation.

[a500lbgorilla]

I'm not convinced that they couldn't find something if they really tried (I mean really, you can find anything anywhere, lol) but fair enough. Terrible journalism, I agree.

The difference between them and me is that I would never use that as a justification for that kind of terrible journalism. It's beyond intellectually dishonest. And I am an intellectual girlscout.

Don't hold your breath for the real expose on Rape Culture on College Campuses.

[aubreymcfate]

I 100% think the "epidemic" is widely blown out of proportion. Nothing I said was meant to be a tacit endorsement of that.

Anyway, I'll do my research. I don't have any absolute point I'm trying to prove here.

[a500lbgorilla]

I 100% think the "epidemic" is widely blown out of proportion. Nothing I said was meant to be a tacit endorsement of that.

Anyway, I'll do my research. I don't have any absolute point I'm trying to prove here.

There's no need for that. I'm not attacking personal experience and the beliefs that follow, just saying I'm mighty suspicious of the lot of 'em.

[a500lbgorilla]

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/2438...ay-with-dildo/

RAPE CULTURE ALERT

"Finally, he developed a more advanced protocol to maximize the delight inflicted on each new wave of incoming train friends:
Every time the train pulled into a station, he’d put the dildo away, sit quietly, let people board, then whip it out and wave it around, startling the new passengers."

This man is a hero

[aubreymcfate]

lol I didn't mean I'm doing the research to come back and deal the final blow on you. I just meant I'm always open to learning and revising currently held beliefs.

Yeah that guy is basically the hero NYC needs and deserves.

[a500lbgorilla]

I remember the last time I was on an NYC sub. No one was laughing. In fact, some beggar lady was almost in fake tears over the state of her life and how appreciative she would be for help. Someone jamming a dildo in my face? hey, so long as it's clean and he's wearing a genuine smile.

[spoonitnow]

I 100% think the "epidemic" is widely blown out of proportion. Nothing I said was meant to be a tacit endorsement of that.

Anyway, I'll do my research. I don't have any absolute point I'm trying to prove here.

Spoiler: In 1994, five out of every 1,000 women were raped; in 2010, only two out of 1,000 were.

Spoiler #2: More men are raped in the United States each year than women.

[wufwugy]

[aubreymcfate]

That's a nice statistic. (No sarcasm, truly. Not the male part but the decreased rapes.)

Is that men in prison?

[aubreymcfate]

Also spoilers are really insensitive. Thanks for sucking out all the fun.

[aubreymcfate]

Also many rapes aren't reported, and they are very hard to prove. Especially when it is someone the woman trusts and knows. That's why rape statistics arent really end of discussion.

[spoonitnow]

Also many rapes aren't reported, and they are very hard to prove. Especially when it is someone the woman trusts and knows. That's why rape statistics arent really end of discussion.

Another good one: http://news.nationalpost.com/full-co...pt-against-men

[spoonitnow]

That's a nice statistic. (No sarcasm, truly. Not the male part but the decreased rapes.)

Is that men in prison?

Of course it is. For every 11 men in prison, there is one woman.

What do nine of out ten men in prison enjoy? Gang rape.

Another fun piece of information on men vs. women, though unrelated to rape, is that between three and four times as many men commit suicide as women each year. However, about twice as many women attempt suicide as men.

[aubreymcfate]

Prison rape is horrific and a hugely ignored problem, for sure.

Rape in free society is almost impossible to quantify. It's a larger concern for free women than free men, bc of physical power imbalance. At the same time, men that get raped by women are mocked and dismissed. It's fucked up on many levels.

[OngBonga]

I'm not sure I'd even be all that bothered if a woman raped me, unless she forced a strap on up my arse. I'd just be amused that she didn't simply ask me if I wanted to fuck, because I'd probably go for it. Unless she's fat, of course. But a fat woman couldn't rape me properly because no way would I get a boner. She can sit on my limp dick all she likes, that's not rape, it's a failed attempt at rape.

[OngBonga]

Sorry if finding amusement in rape is bad form. I'm stoned. Blame the drugs.

[spoonitnow]

Prison rape is horrific and a hugely ignored problem, for sure.

Rape in free society is almost impossible to quantify. It's a larger concern for free women than free men, bc of physical power imbalance. At the same time, men that get raped by women are mocked and dismissed. It's fucked up on many levels.

But men and women are equal.

[aubreymcfate]

lol

[rong]

So ong, you'd find it funny if this chick overpowered you, pinned you down by sitting on y our shoulders, ass to face, pulled your cock out and sucked you off to get you hard and then raped you?

[OngBonga]

If she can get me hard, it's not rape.

[eugmac]

she can slip viagara into your coffee

[OngBonga]

Whew, I'm glad you didn't say tea. I don't drink coffee so I'm safe.

[eugmac]

such a predictable smartass answer

[OngBonga]

What, like viagara wasn't predictable?

[Luco]

[BooG690]

I hope Ong is trolling.

[OngBonga]

Wait, do I come across as serious?

[OngBonga]

I would just like to point out it's 12.50pm and I must have hit four bongs already since I got up at 10.30am.

You can call that trolling if you want. I call it talking shit for no reason other than suck it.

[eugmac]

get a job

[BooG690]

Hippie

[OngBonga]

get a job

I'll get a job if the Greens get into power.

That's a promise.

[spoonitnow]

lol

<3

The problem with liberalism is that it's cannibalistic. You can always counter some ridiculous liberal crap with more ridiculous liberal crap.

[wufwugy]

<3

The problem with liberalism is that it's cannibalistic. You can always counter some ridiculous liberal crap with more ridiculous liberal crap.

give example

[spoonitnow]

give example

Position: Affirmative action for all women regardless of race, earnings, disability or background.

Counter Level 1: That's just another tool of the patriarchy to subjugate women and make them think that they aren't good enough to achieve on their own.

Counter Level 2: You not thinking that women deserve affirmative action to be put on an even playing field with men after centuries of subjugation is a result of your indoctrination from the patriarchy and male-primary culture.

Counter Level 3: And where does this leave women of color? Nowhere because affirmative action for women really means affirmative action for women with wealth built on the backs of slaves who are able to go to college and be put in a position to even try to compete with white males.

Counter Level 4: You're falling for the bait of the patriarchy which wants us women to fight among ourselves so that we aren't able to rise as a whole.

Counter Level 5: Bullshit. A white woman might become the next president of the United States, but she'll still have a black babysitter and hispanic workers in the kitchen because this is about more than your white, pristine vagina.

Counter Level 6: This is why we need affirmative action for all women regardless of race, earnings, disability or background.

And around it goes.

[wufwugy]

fucking lol

[spoonitnow]

Just because I feel like I'm a real advocate for real rape victims:

I was raped by a woman btw. Not joking (which is probably impossible to believe).

At 15, I had sex with a woman in her 30s. The age of consent is 16 in North Carolina.

I'm also a rapist. I had sex with a 15 year old female when I was in my early 20s.

I say this to say that this notion that all rape is equal is retarded. To compare me having a hot piece of scene girl ass riding my cock in the back of a car to some guy holding a knife to a woman's throat and forcibly raping her is stupid as fuck.

The inability for third-wave feminists to think beyond level 0 on topics like "all rape is equal" and "there shouldn't be different punishments for different types of rape" and "there aren't really any false rape accusations" just devalues rape as a whole and makes people not give a flying fuck about actual victims.

[aubreymcfate]

Dude, bad logic has an insatiable appetite for bad logic. As annoying as I find many feminists online, a lot of them aren't as simple minded as those counter arguments (actually, a lot of them are hyper-focused on intersectional feminism, and very vocal against the kind of narrow minded feminism that only benefits privileged white women). I see your point, but it's not liberalism-exclusive. It's just stupidity.

Also, when many feminists say all rape is equal, they aren't equating knife-to-the-throat rape with statutory rape. I'm not saying those people don't exist, but that is not the pervading ethos of modern day feminism.

HoweEEEeeeeVerRRRrr... that being said...

I agree with you about not all rape being equal. I was just having this conversation with wufwugy on aim.

I've been, technically speaking, raped two times. By technically speaking I don't mean I was underage and they weren't. I mean I was fucked not only without my consent but with my vocal non-consent. The first time I was incapacitated drunk (I was 17, wasn't a big drinker and so I got black out drunk completely by accident, first time that ever happened to me). I was passed out for hours on the bed. At one point my boyfriend came and fucked me during it, and I was somewhat conscious and remember saying "no" because I didn't want it, but he did it anyway. It's an incredibly dick move and to this day I wonder what the fuck was going through his head while he did that. He thought that the fact that he was my boyfriend justified it but no, it doesn't. Even if I didn't say no, I'm drunk to the point where I can't move my limbs. It's just unacceptable. Nonetheless he's a good friend of mine today and I harbor no trauma from that event. Rape? Technically yes but even at the time, having literally no interest or awareness of feminist theory or rape politics or any of that, I intuitively felt like it would be beyond disingenuous to go around telling people I've been raped, or that I was a rape victim.

The second time was a little more traumatic. I was dating an enormously piece of shit human (I was in a very vulnerable mental state. I'd say don't judge me but I'm still judging me). One night, while his dumb ass was on top of me, my intersitial cystitis/pelvic floor dysfunction starting acting up. The former is a bladder condition that can make sex very, very painful. So the pain was starting to get really bad. I told him so and asked him to get off, but he kept going. The pain was getting worse. I kept asking, becoming more frantic, begging, pain becoming more excruciating, trying to shove him off, hitting my fists against his chest, but of course, to no avail, because he didn't give a shit and he's bigger than me. My chest still tightens at the panic and fear I felt at basically having this huge ape of a person ploughing away at me with zero regard for my pain or my protest. You know what finally got him to get the fuck off of me? Me saying "get the fuck off of me this is rape." And then he had the balls to get mad that I used the word rape, and proceeded to accuse me of lying about my condition.

It sucked and it was really awful at the time. I still, given that, don't go around saying I was raped, because the level of trauma I experienced just didn't add up to the gravity of the word "rape" in my mind. If someone ever asked me if I was sexually assaulted I would probably say yes, but rape.. I don't know, it just doesn't feel right. I suppose I would use the word rape if given the chance to qualify and explain my experience, like I'm doing here, but I don't identify as a rape victim or having been raped.

I say all this not to judge women who say they were raped even in similar circumstances. Everyone is different. Another girl in my situation might have had a completely different emotional reaction, might have been more deeply traumatized for whatever reason. I'm not discounting date rape by any means, it can be just as traumatic as any other experience. Imagine being with someone you trust and then they start fucking you when you didn't consent at any point and they just have full on sex with you without your consent. What a fucking horrible betrayal and violation.

I'm being forthright about my experiences so you can hear from a woman firsthand about what an actual "grey area" of rape looks like.

When feminists say all rape is violent.. I mean, yes. They are right. It is inherently an act of violence and assertion of dominance and power. What shitbagfuckface did to me was an act of violence. But that doesn't mean it was qualitatively the same kind of violence as, say, what happened to The Central Park Jogger. Nowhere close.

The fear people have about trying to say some rape is worse than others is because they feel that putting one in a less serious light is giving it a pass. No form of rape or sexual assault should be given a pass. And no one's trauma or experience should be invalidated or dismissed just because their rape wasn't as overtly violent as someone else's.

anyway, those are my thoughts/experiences.

[aubreymcfate]

The other problematic thing is when people assume that if you knew the person that raped you, that it somehow means there must have been some blurred lines, that there had to be some miscommunication. No, friends/boyfriends/husbands can rape just as brutally and with complete cognizance of your non-consent as a stranger can.

But that's the thing... I believe blurred lines do exist. Many don't.

wug I hope you don't mind but I'm gonna quote you from the aim convo: "here's what i think: if a woman honestly feels it was rape, unless she is batty, she's right."

I've been in other murky intimate situations. They were a combination of me being too meek to say anything bc I have too-nice syndrome and the guy being too insensitive or self-absorbed to realize I was not into it. Not rape by any means, but still shitty.

[spoonitnow]

tl;dr

"Also, when many feminists say all rape is equal, they aren't equating knife-to-the-throat rape with statutory rape. I'm not saying those people don't exist, but that is not the pervading ethos of modern day feminism."

I disagree with this assertion. Third-wave feminism is all about some all rape is equal. You and I are in the minority. "Modern feminism" is the bullshit you keep rallying against, not the opinions you seem to have yourself.

[spoonitnow]

"When feminists say all rape is violent.. I mean, yes. They are right. It is inherently an act of violence and assertion of dominance and power."

All of actual rape is violent. However, all rape (as defined today) is not violent. This is the problem with opening up the definition of rape to such wide levels.

[aubreymcfate]

When you say that they're saying all rape is equal, even consensual statutory rape and brutally violent rape, do you mean that they're saying both deserve the same kind of punishment? What does "equal" mean in this context. Maybe I didn't properly understand.

I guess what I meant is I don't think most people think that statutory rape is as traumatic or difficult of an experience as other kinds, that the nature of the experiences of themselves can't be compared.

But maybe I'm wrong. I guess I wouldn't be surprised at this point, lol. Would be curious to see sources of that kind of argument if you can think of anything.

Statutory rape is a whole bag of different levels too. A much older person with a prepubescent person can definitely be psychologically damaging, even if it was consensual.

[aubreymcfate]

All rape - rape defined as someone using their physical power to force themselves onto someone else who is not consenting - is violent. There doesn't have to be a knife involved, or overt brute force, or punching or choking or any of that. That's the point I was making.

What happened to me is technically violent. But qualitatively you cannot compare it to the violence of a woman who was beaten to an inch of her life and raped in Central Park.

dude you read it you printed it out and slobbered all over it, that's how hard you read my post, stfu, i c thru u, fuckin editing to make yourself look cool

[aubreymcfate]

also I know I rally against modern day feminism, but I was giving them the benefit of the doubt. like I said, too-nice syndrome.

[spoonitnow]

All rape - rape defined as someone using their physical power to force themselves onto someone else who is not consenting - is violent.

Third-wave feminists have worked very hard to remove the concept of forcible rape (what you describe above) from both law and the lexicon. This is the core of the "all rape is equal" movement.

Another key part of this is the change in the definition of consent. Affirmative consent, as described in the letter of the law in places where it's used, makes every man and woman who has sex a rapist by definition. The law is supposed to be taken literally and not left to interpretation, and that's impossible to do with affirmative consent.

Example: Suppose I'm having sex with a woman, and I push her legs back without her permission. By the letter of the law of affirmative consent, I am now raping her.

It sounds too ridiculously stupid to be true, but that's how it is, and that's why this "yes means yes" (as opposed to "no means no") shit is such a problem when used as the legal basis for consent: There is no way to objectively use it without it leading to absurd results.

Edit: This is fairly decent reading on the subject: http://reason.com/archives/2015/02/0...waw3gm:eek:aj1 A lot of this comes across as completely retarded and unrealistic, and that's kind of the point since it's actually happening in 2015.

[aubreymcfate]

wait so you're saying you don't wish your sex life looked like this?



lol

ok anyway, I'm in complete overwhelming agreement with you on this. It's puritanical fascist nonsense. And also, as a woman, makes me feel incredibly condescended to.

[spoonitnow]

wait so you're saying you don't wish your sex life looked like this?



lol

ok anyway, I'm in complete overwhelming agreement with you on this. It's puritanical fascist nonsense. And also, as a woman, makes me feel incredibly condescended to.

Affirmative consent is saying that women are so fucking stupid that they can't be trusted to tell a guy that they don't want him to touch their boobs.

[aubreymcfate]

Btw the reason I went into detail about my experiences is because there are people that think rape by definition has to look like knife to the throat brutality, and I was trying to show firsthand how rape can look like many different things, and that grey areas do exist. I've also personally struggled with trying to understand why I feel so uncomfortable saying "I've been raped" when I clearly do see those things as falling under the umbrella of "actual rape." Just food for thought, I guess.

[aubreymcfate]

ok we either have to cease to this line of convo or start the Rapeness Thread part 2, this shit's getting ridiculous.

wuf showed me this, it's hilarious

[BooG690]

Holy shit, Aubrey's video wasn't a parody. They were being serious.

[jackvance]

Monday night I got back from a week California, two days ago I get a call from my boss "I need you in Qatar on saturday to support the retrofit of an aircraft, itll be two weeks." So now Im in Doha, just arrived, sitting in a fancy deluxe hotel room. I guess this is what my life looks like now. Could be worse I guess but Im so exhausted..

[wufwugy]

Monday night I got back from a week California, two days ago I get a call from my boss "I need you in Qatar on saturday to support the retrofit of an aircraft, itll be two weeks." So now Im in Doha, just arrived, sitting in a fancy deluxe hotel room. I guess this is what my life looks like now. Could be worse, could have missed the only important ww games ever played.

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[jackvance]

I know, it sucks, UAE blocks FTR for the sin of gambling. At least Qatar is nicer!

[spoonitnow]

Holy shit, Aubrey's video wasn't a parody. They were being serious.

This right here is exactly the fucking problem. These people are fucking serious.

[spoonitnow]