Varchertine's Werewolf Game Thread

[Luco]

The beauty of playing with the same players over and over again (and poker players, at that) is that the wolves will look game solvey if they play you in the future.

Only the best ones.

That doesn't include me.

[OngBonga]

I'll give you all a break, I'll mod the next one, or sit out entirely. I'm getting serious burnout. This game is easily my worst game, and last game is my next worst game. Once I knew baudib was a villager (which was five minutes after I died, thanks for putting me out of my misery quickly JKDS), I accepted boog was probably a wolf. I had to sit and watch as baudib got strung up, thanks to me, knowing he was a villager.

baudib, I'm saying this and this only... that was fucking fun. It was. At the time I was enjoying it, because I was utterly convinced I had a wolf. Then I died, asked JKDS to spoil your role, and at that point I stopped enjoying the game. At the time though it was awesome, so there's that. Cheers.

As for boog...

Fuck you boog.

[BooG690]

Ong, question. Remember last game when we spoke about me always dying (in the dead thread) and I posted something (in the dead thread) about me constantly dying? Did that have anything to do with you defending me?

[baudib]

I'll give you all a break, I'll mod the next one, or sit out entirely. I'm getting serious burnout. This game is easily my worst game, and last game is my next worst game. Once I knew baudib was a villager (which was five minutes after I died, thanks for putting me out of my misery quickly JKDS), I accepted boog was probably a wolf. I had to sit and watch as baudib got strung up, thanks to me, knowing he was a villager.

baudib, I'm saying this and this only... that was fucking fun. It was. At the time I was enjoying it, because I was utterly convinced I had a wolf. Then I died, asked JKDS to spoil your role, and at that point I stopped enjoying the game. At the time though it was awesome, so there's that. Cheers.

As for boog...

Fuck you boog.

the thing that really mystified me this game was the constant "baud isn't playing his normal game," "this is so far removed from baud's villager game..."

i have like 2 game days as a villager on this site, and that was months ago. since then i have like 20 villager games and probably 10,000 posts as a villager at POG.

my normal FTR game has been a wolf.

[OngBonga]

Balance/format is sweet, and I'd play it again, maybe like once a year. Yeah no specials is super hard for the village, but two threads is super hard for the wolves. The v/v paranoia wars are amusing. It's all round a fun format.

[wufwugy]

HERE I AM, BUSILY EATING CROW

Daven I already done told ya you're a better person than me so I ain't gon tell ya agin. FWIW the only time I wanted to "give up" was in frustration the moment my lynch hit. It was blowing off steam. The bright side of what caused that is that it was also the underlying theme for why the lessons the village could have learned from my lynch weren't learned. What I mean is that I think people killed me easily but then also took light of my role in the game, which led to Boog not getting as much heat. Ofc not Baud. He was right about two very big things I did, two things that I knew were very wolfy but had no choice in, yet he couldn't get anybody on his side because he was an asshole


Most of my opinions are in the wolf and dead thread, if anybody cares about them


Fantastic job Boog Daven Monstr. We had it really tough on d1, so it looked really bad, but also to note an important reason why it was really tough was that you guys were giving me hell. That came back to help you later, which was the point of doing it

As for the format, what I have left to say is that I think the village didn't utilize what it best could. I thought there was no way Baud/Rilla wouldn't get lock-v status if I died and that Boog would be primary suspect especially after both Baud/Ong died. But I think there were two main factors at play that kept the village from doing these: (1) no nights. Villages require talkless nights in order to de-clutter themselves. (2) We tend to lack a wagonomics and "why did dead so-n-so do this and what does that mean?" stuff. If you can spell out the motivations of dead wolves, you win. But it wasn't done this game.

Thanks for modding JerKDS.

[OngBonga]

Ong, question. Remember last game when we spoke about me always dying (in the dead thread) and I posted something (in the dead thread) about me constantly dying? Did that have anything to do with you defending me?

No, it's because baudib convinced me he was a wolf, which further reinforced my read that you were a villager. I've defended you before and was totally right, and I was moaning how stupid it was to lynch you that game... it was the same game that jyms got mislynch when I protested he was a villager. I thought I could read you... and I thought I could read baudib even more. Considering that, and considering how stubborn I am, it's, and considering baudib's play, it's no surprise it devolved into that nonsense.

[wufwugy]

Balance/format is sweet, and I'd play it again, maybe like once a year. Yeah no specials is super hard for the village, but two threads is super hard for the wolves. The v/v paranoia wars are amusing. It's all round a fun format.

I think the village wins if we kept playing this style

I think nobody put their brain on what the format actually does, but if we did, then we'd see there are some really simple problems that hamstring the wolves.

Case in point: Baud/Rilla should have always been lock-v status after my death. The village had one and only one question to answer: was Wuf trying to save himself or is one of Baud/Rilla also a wolf and the wolves are trying to kill the other for cred?" The answer is the former almost every time. Whenever it is the latter, well, the wolves are gonna win anyways because they're too crafty and are taking huge risks.

With that line, MMM and BID also should have been cleared villagers. That would have resulted in pretty standard and minimal activity from one wolf cinching the game for the village. There is little avoiding this. I think the format is hyper pro-v, but only if the v digs into why

[BooG690]

Word. On day 1, wolves were basically forced to hop on gabe's wagon. Obviously, it was bad to have all the wolves on one wagon but, with two wolves in one link, we had no choice. I thought we were fucked either way after D1 (either I die or all wolves on one wagon).

[OngBonga]

the thing that really mystified me this game was the constant "baud isn't playing his normal game," "this is so far removed from baud's villager game..."

i have like 2 game days as a villager on this site, and that was months ago. since then i have like 20 villager games and probably 10,000 posts as a villager at POG.

my normal FTR game has been a wolf.

I just don't recall you ever being so patronising, or insulting people's game. I can remember reading you correctly as villager before, so your style this game was... different. I put that down to burnout. It's easier to insult people that it is to argue the case. You weren't considering my ideas... I know they were wrong, but you couldn't KNOW that, and you didn't engage me in a manner that had me thinking you were seriously consider what I was saying... which reinforces my idea that it's wolf agenda, that boog was a necessary mislynch.

You read that gamea lot better than I did, for sure. But your tone, along with my inability to read my partner as villager, cost us dear.

As for me self lynching... it's very much different in a game where I cannot be certain that I'm a mislynch. There was spastic strategy behind it, it's not just me throwing a tantrum.

[baudib]

I just don't recall you ever being so patronising, or insulting people's game. I can remember reading you correctly as villager before, so your style this game was... different. I put that down to burnout. It's easier to insult people that it is to argue the case. You weren't considering my ideas... I know they were wrong, but you couldn't KNOW that, and you didn't engage me in a manner that had me thinking you were seriously consider what I was saying... which reinforces my idea that it's wolf agenda, that boog was a necessary mislynch.

You read that gamea lot better than I did, for sure. But your tone, along with my inability to read my partner as villager, cost us dear.

As for me self lynching... it's very much different in a game where I cannot be certain that I'm a mislynch. There was spastic strategy behind it, it's not just me throwing a tantrum.

the bolded has never happened.

[OngBonga]

I'm sure it has.

[OngBonga]

Well, whatever, I thought it had, that's what's important if you're trying to get into my head.

[BooG690]

the bolded has never happened.

I'm sure it has.

You guys should argue about it.

[wufwugy]

It took me way too many games to realise that overall game-solveyness is the only consistent tell

I think there were consistent tells. The biggest at play in the late game is usually "who's doing the most but really doing the least". What I liked about Gabe's wolf game is that that tell, which applies to almost every wolf, didn't apply to him. I think there are loads of other tells that involve people contradicting themselves or contradicting what they should reasonably think. Like my Gabe bold was a huge huge tell. As a villager I am always staying on MMM. But we had to save Boog, so we had no choice

Also I was quite game-solvey. Likely more than I would have been if I was a villager. I just did it in a different way than I had the previous handful of games. I also think people were fed up with me, so any reason to kill is a good one

When I'm villager in a situation where I get to lead in bolds from the first 20 minutes of the game and stay there for almost two entire gamedays, I probably just tell everybody to fuck off and I stop posting anything serious

[OngBonga]

Anyway, I want to quickly forget about this game. I just want to say one more thing though...

Fuck you boog.

[BooG690]

Also I was quite mechanics-solvey. Likely more than I would have been if I was a villager. I just did it in a different way than I had the previous handful of games. I also think people were fed up with me, so any reason to kill is a good one

FYP. There's a difference.

[Luco]

Ong I've never modded before, can I co-mod with you?

[Luco]

Links? Dead thread, den, anyone else use qt for the teamchat?

[wufwugy]

FYP. There's a difference.

We could have been done with the mechanics in the first three pages if people stopped bolding me over them. I wanted to get off the subject as much as anybody. But if I'm leading in votes because people disagree with something I say, I have no choice but to try to get them to agree.

My wolf-hunting on Rilla was much better than it would have been if I was a villager. That's mainly what I was referring to. There's just no beating Rilla if he has his eyes on you. I'm not sure if he's ever even been lynched. Nobody kills Rilla unless Rilla does it himself

[wufwugy]

http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/SSctMDZPJQi

http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/vPaFnY8HBGmm

[OngBonga]

Ong I've never modded before, can I co-mod with you?

That's cool with me. I imagine most people will want a bit of a break after that monster, so let's leave it a couple of weeks and see how people are feeling then imo.

[JKDS]

Lynch!

Keybored is dead. He was Malory Archer, with ISIS


His +1, Luco, was mind-blown. He was the Defected Nikolai Jacov, with ISIS



........

Other Barry: Do the wolves win Barry?

Barry: That they do Other Barry. That they do. Good job Conway. If that is your real name!


Remainder:
Barry (Boog) paired with Other Barry (Monstrman)
Conway Stern (Daven) paired with Cheryl Tunt (Bigred)
Cyril Figis (BID) paired with Lana Kane (MMM)

Jokes I couldnt find a place to use:
Archer: Phrasing
Archer: Cant, or wont.
Conway: You havent seen the last of Conway Stern, if that is my real name!!!
Malory: Because all you're gonna get is holes, wait not my holes, holes in you!
And a billion other jokes and phrases from all the characters.

My favorite is Cheryl BTW.

I'll comment about the game in a bit, I'm still super busy and in class for another 6 hours. I just wanted to post this list.

[JKDS]

Wolves had these fake claims

Pam, Ray Gillette, Baboo, Dutchess, Baby Seamus, Baby AJ (these last four were for the Boog-Monstr pair. Finding believable couples is hard)

[wufwugy]

im going to greatly enjoy a new game because i feel like ive done everything i wanted in ww. yeah, i died early as wolf, but that was always my intent. i just wanted my play to set up enough cred for the surviving wolves

now i dont think winning and losing with bother me that much, so i can play for fun (which will probably end up meaning playing better)

[BooG690]

I'm mentally drained. Let's shoot for like, a month.

[MadMojoMonkey]

In this format, no one should reveal. ever. Not even when on the block. Never. Just don't do it.

There is simply too much to be revealed after the fact when those who DO and DO NOT know the pairings can be sussed out after the vote.

Revealing pairs should be done by the mod only.

[MadMojoMonkey]

I'm mentally drained. Let's shoot for like, a month.

I hear you, BooG.

Not a month, but maybe a week.

A couple of days, maybe.

At least 24 hours?

What's this creeping emptiness? Fuck it. I'm in.

Ahhhhhhh.


JKDS
Excellent game!

[wufwugy]

In this format, no one should reveal. ever. Not even when on the block. Never. Just don't do it.

There is simply too much to be revealed after the fact when those who DO and DO NOT know the pairings can be sussed out after the vote.

Revealing pairs should be done by the mod only.

Can you give examples of how this works?

All I see is how the village should smash the keys to get reveals done. It is so so so so so powerful to know that every play on one player is also a play on another player. In the wolfchat you'll see how close I had gotten to wanting to vanish since I thought it would be a terrible idea for me to attack any villagers since it would just dole out vilcred to unkillables like mad.

Trying to solve a game where links are hidden is like trying to figure out math solutions when steps are skipped

[MadMojoMonkey]

I'll post me and BID's QT in the gratz thread.

I'm certain key will get a good laugh at the part where I pull exactly the same style of "trap" on BID.

Except I asked for the pic.

Did any wolves receive a pic for their fake claims?

[wufwugy]

I remember that when I decided to push for reveals, I said to myself: "sure everybody will give me vilcred since it's an argument for more information, and ofc nobody will say something like 'yo, wuf only be thinkin about this since he wolf and had to think long and hard on it in order to develop strategy'"

[lilrascal]

Sup guys. GG. It was fun. Frustrating, but fun.

[lilrascal]

I hear you, BooG.

Not a month, but maybe a week.

A couple of days, maybe.

At least 24 hours?

What's this creeping emptiness? Fuck it. I'm in.

Ahhhhhhh.


JKDS
Excellent game!

:thumb:

IN

[MadMojoMonkey]

Can you give examples of how this works?

All I see is how the village should smash the keys to get reveals done. It is so so so so so powerful to know that every play on one player is also a play on another player. In the wolfchat you'll see how close I had gotten to wanting to vanish since I thought it would be a terrible idea for me to attack any villagers since it would just dole out vilcred to unkillables like mad.

Trying to solve a game where links are hidden is like trying to figure out math solutions when steps are skipped

'Nuff said. It was causing the wolves problems to have roles hidden. Hidden roles is pro-V.

Boohoo that the village doesn't have all the info on D1.
Welcome to the village, population: declining.

I think the village has a ton to gain from reading the thread w/o knowledge of roles, then RE-reading the thread with knowledge after the reveal. If the reveal comes before the death, though, that edge is taken away. Now everyone was acting with similar information. The discrepancy is not there to identify.

[MadMojoMonkey]

@wuf: did you get sent a pic from JKDS for your fake-claims?

[MadMojoMonkey]

IN

FYP

[baudib]

MMM still doesn't understand the most basic parts of WW theory.

[wufwugy]

'Nuff said. It was causing the wolves problems to have roles hidden. Hidden roles is pro-V.

Boohoo that the village doesn't have all the info on D1.
Welcome to the village, population: declining.

I think the village has a ton to gain from reading the thread w/o knowledge of roles, then RE-reading the thread with knowledge after the reveal. If the reveal comes before the death, though, that edge is taken away. Now everyone was acting with similar information. The discrepancy is not there to identify.

It was not causing wolves problems to have roles hidden. I pushed for reveals for vilcred.

The wolves would have been so much better off with hidden links. Just imagine how bad regular villagers would look when they are seen acting strangely regarding their links but couldn't say why and nobody could understand why.

Finding wolves is ultimately a logical pursuit about the reasoning behind players' behavior. I did everything I could to get the village to see how pro-v my mechanics arguments were because I wanted vilcred from it.

[wufwugy]

@wuf: did you get sent a pic from JKDS for your fake-claims?

yes

only the best. the hot russian one

[MadMojoMonkey]

MMM still doesn't understand the most basic parts of WW theory.

Lay it on me, bro.

[MadMojoMonkey]

I pushed for reveals for vilcred.

To me:
Abandoning the conversation once you started repeating yourself would have been worth V-cred.
I mean, feel free to keep reminding us with a short sentence once in a while that your opinion hasn't changed, if you think it's necessary. That's still V-cred.

Lengthening the conversation was hurting the village, whether you were right or wrong. It was just stubbornness and inflexibility.
Maybe I'm too flexible. My reads on people can go back and forth pretty wildly.

[wufwugy]

To me:
Abandoning the conversation once you started repeating yourself would have been worth V-cred.
I mean, feel free to keep reminding us with a short sentence once in a while that your opinion hasn't changed, if you think it's necessary. That's still V-cred.

Lengthening the conversation was hurting the village, whether you were right or wrong. It was just stubbornness and inflexibility.
Maybe I'm too flexible. My reads on people can go back and forth pretty wildly.

you're right. that was a tell on me that i felt like i couldnt do much about due to other things. trying too hard, so to speak.

the thing is that if i dont fight tooth and nail, i probably die d1. it has happened before

[MadMojoMonkey]

yes

only the best. the hot russian one

JKDS listed 8 fake claims... what do you mean the hot russain one?

Did he give you 8 pics, and you chose the hot russian one to be your fake claim?

[daven]

MMM still doesn't understand the most basic parts of WW theory.

funny thing is that there is still a lack of consensus about whether early reveals are pro- or anti- village in this game.

I think that reveals are pro-wolves. Wuf thinks they're pro-village. Neither of us is dumb. I don't think it's clear-cut, there are very strong arguments for each side. I think it's a style thing.

I think it's because for some player styles (e.g. how they hunt, how they fake hunt, how they clear villages, etc) teams outing is pro-village, for other player styles it's anti.

[daven]

i also think that relying on real-time interaction rather than thread re-reads and history to find wolves is reliant on an assumption that the wolves are bad enough to make a huge mistake in real-time interaction, it also hugely increases the likelihood of a villager becoming a lock wolf in the village's eyes.

I learnt a lot this game. It also tired me. I won't be playing any game that starts before March 1st.

[baudib]

MMM, you had 3 paths to victory. 2 that I laid out for you, both of which would have worked. I even significantly backed off my stance that Keybored was a wolf and reiterated that you MUST NOT lynch Keybored before Boog.

This totally jived with your own read of the game, you had Luco also giving you the correct way to win -- lynch the lurkers. Luco wasn't even an asshole about it, and you had correctly IDed 2 of the 3 wolves and, instead of lynching them, you let them have their say and, in Wuf's terms, control the narrative.

beyond that, every single piece of information in the game points to Boog being a wolf. Boog being allowed to live is just astonishing.

on Must-Lynch day you're trying to hit a home run when you absolutely need to hit a single. You're looking for a W-W pair instead of lynching the absolute 100% wolf. Boog is never ever ever ever ever a villager in this spot, you must lynch him every single day after Wuf's flip.

so in the hopes of hitting a hail mary, hoping to hit a W-W pairing, you lynch one of your for sure villagers.

how does this ever happen?

[baudib]

so in the hopes of hitting a hail mary, hoping to hit a W-W pairing, you lynch one of your for sure villagers.

this points back to the mistake you made the day before in lynching the person who wanted to lynch the same people you did. it only took 1 villager (BID) to clinch this for the wolves.

[lilrascal]

funny thing is that there is still a lack of consensus about whether early reveals are pro- or anti- village in this game.

I think that reveals are pro-wolves. Wuf thinks they're pro-village. Neither of us is dumb. I don't think it's clear-cut, there are very strong arguments for each side. I think it's a style thing.

I think it's because for some player styles (e.g. how they hunt, how they fake hunt, how they clear villages, etc) teams outing is pro-village, for other player styles it's anti.

I still think it's best for the villa to keep them hidden. That way you're just playing straight ww and hunting wolves. The plus side is that the NK might be a wolf in this setup rather than it always being a villa NK.

[MadMojoMonkey]

on Must-Lynch day you're trying to hit a home run when you absolutely need to hit a single. You're looking for a W-W pair instead of lynching the absolute 100% wolf. Boog is never ever ever ever ever a villager in this spot, you must lynch him every single day after Wuf's flip.

Bold is not what I was doing.
Read it back. You'll see I was thinking exactly that. Except that I was not at all convinced that boog was a W.
I was certainly not taking your case on him as a cinch after you came down on Ong like you did.

so in the hopes of hitting a hail mary, hoping to hit a W-W pairing, you lynch one of your for sure villagers.

how does this ever happen?

BID and I were abso convinced that monstr was the most clear V outside of ourselves at the end.
Our primary goal was to NOT get to F4 against W/W. We didn't care about the order of kills as long as we had 1 V on the team that wasn't us.
So it's a moot point. We were taking the W-W pair to F4 'cause we were convinced that monstr was V.

[BooG690]

how does this ever happen?

I'm not a wolf every time there imo. Also, when you have Ong as your lawyer, lots of things are possible.

[BooG690]

Baud, you're being a little results-oriented here. I'm a mislynch 25% of the time and you aren't posting about the parts of the game you got incorrect.

[BooG690]

how does this ever happen?

Also, your delivery was shit and you managed to divide the villagers. I even rescinded my vote from baud to vote Ong and keep you another day. Ong self-lynched in response to my vote. I knew if Ong lived, he'd be smart enough to realize his mistake and deliver a lynch against me. So thanks for being so divisive.

[wufwugy]

i also think that relying on real-time interaction rather than thread re-reads and history to find wolves is reliant on an assumption that the wolves are bad enough to make a huge mistake in real-time interaction, it also hugely increases the likelihood of a villager becoming a lock wolf in the village's eyes.

I learnt a lot this game. It also tired me. I won't be playing any game that starts before March 1st.

We've probably never agreed more than I do with you on this.

Real-time is overrated; re-reads be where the cool kids hang

[wufwugy]

JKDS listed 8 fake claims... what do you mean the hot russain one?

Did he give you 8 pics, and you chose the hot russian one to be your fake claim?

here's the pm. i honestly didnt even think about my name or fake-claim because im pretty sure my strategy regardless of role is to never claim

Role PM

Wolf PM



You are Katya Kazanova, with the KGB. You are a cyborg KGB agent, and former lover of Sterling Archer. You brought Hoopy along as your +1. You can talk with him anywhere, at anytime after game start. But beware, Krieger says there is a bomb in everyone's mind-brain. If one of you dies, so does the other. Luckily, Hoopy doesnt know if you are fighting for ISIS or the KGB.

TLDR: If one of you dies, so does the other. Hoopy dont know your alignment.

If asked, you should probably tell people you are Pam Poovey, with ISIS. Shes the ISIS HR director. She is also not in the game.



Boog , Monstrman , and Daven are on your side. Boog is linke d to Monstrman , and Daven is linked to Bigred.

[OngBonga]

Also, your delivery was shit and you managed to divide the villagers. I even rescinded my vote from baud to vote Ong and keep you another day. Ong self-lynched in response to my vote. I knew if Ong lived, he'd be smart enough to realize his mistake and deliver a lynch against me. So thanks for being so divisive.

Actually it was rilla turning on me that had me put my vote back on myself. The funny thing about your vote is that it was alarming, I felt that was what you'd do in that spot as wolf. It was only when I remembered how definite I was about baudib being a wolf that I thought nah boog's all good here because I'm fucking right about baudib, and no fucking way are they wolfbros.

Pretty much every post you made today had me thinking "fuck you boog". As soon as baudib flipped villager, well deep down I knew you were wolfing, I just hope it wouldn't be.

I can't bring myself to read the den. I don't want to know how much you're all hi5'ing me.

[BooG690]

Actually it was rilla turning on me that had me put my vote back on myself. The funny thing about your vote is that it was alarming, I felt that was what you'd do in that spot as wolf. It was only when I remembered how definite I was about baudib being a wolf that I thought nah boog's all good here because I'm fucking right about baudib, and no fucking way are they wolfbros.

Pretty much every post you made today had me thinking "fuck you boog". As soon as baudib flipped villager, well deep down I knew you were wolfing, I just hope it wouldn't be.

I can't bring myself to read the den. I don't want to know how much you're all hi5'ing me.

Your name is mentioned a ton. At least ctrl+f 'Ong.'

[JKDS]

Pics for the fake claims

Spoiler: Show

Meet Conway Stern: A diversity double whammy.



Fake Claim Ray Gillette, the token Gay ISIS agent.



Meet Barry Dylan, a cyborg KGB agent who wants to destroy ISIS



With Fake Claim Dutchess , Malory Archer's beloved pet dog.



Meet Other Barry Dylan,a cyborg KGB agent who is probably just in Barry's head.



With fakeclaim, Baboo. Cheryl Tunt's beloved pet ocelot.

[Keybored]

Huge back slap for Baudib.
Kid didn't make his case but it was the fucking nutz!
Next time I'll try to look past the emotion and focus on the mechanics.
Nothing wrong with being passionate about your position.
Hugg'n it out here, bitches.
This groovy marble be made up of all kinda swirlyz.

IIWII

~kb

[gabe]

boog!!!

dangit

[wufwugy]

i dont recall anybody being insulted (or hi5'd) in the den or dead thread

this was a really hard game for us and luck could have changed at any moment. im still kind of amazed that boog monstr and daven pulled it off at 5v3

[BooG690]

boog!!!

dangit

That day 1 read was absolutely gross. I made sure to stay away from "it seems" from any other post afterward.

funny, Keybored made that same argument against Monstr (also a wolf) on the final day. Lesson: villagers post with conviction. Wolves aren't so sure.

[BooG690]

My favorite post from the den comes from Daven: hang on. ong arrooed, keybored tricked him into blowing his cover and admitting he's a villager, bid wants the self-claimed wolf to be the lynch, others disagree cos the self-claimed wolf was kidding but DOES think his partner is a wolf so whatever, etc?!! dang this game done got crazy. I'm staying out of it. Hopefully after day 4 we'll have two dead villagers = baud and ong both calling me lock villager. And then we turn on keybored i guess? fuck, i dunno. this is nuts

[BankItDrew]

Boog is never ever ever ever ever a villager in this spot, you must lynch him every single day after Wuf's flip.

If I were to re-read the thread, I could find posts of yours where you could replace 'boog' with at least three other players this game. Most of whom were villagers.
It's quite easy to say after the game qho was a wolf or villager 100% of the time.

it only took 1 villager (BID) to clinch this for the wolves.

LOL to this.

[BankItDrew]

http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/JHdFNTFLAmVVS

private partner chat thread

[BankItDrew]

This may sound silly but I really do want monstr and daven to have avatars

It makes a huge difference for me because I tend to associate personalities and tendencies with pictures, not names.

[BooG690]

This may sound silly but I really do want monstr and daven to have avatars

It makes a huge difference for me because I tend to associate personalities and tendencies with pictures, not names.

I'm pretty sure the man in the cape is the reason why I always get lynched early game.

[BooG690]

The paranoia stuff in the BID/MMM chat is great. I can only imagine what the last day was like from a villager POV. EVERYONE IS A WOLF

[BankItDrew]

I'm pretty sure the man in the cape is the reason why I always get lynched early game.

Larry David has good material but he annoys me. I'm positive this is why I always (other than this game) want to lynch you.
Same thing goes for Dana White.

The paranoia stuff in the BID/MMM chat is great. I can only imagine what the last day was like from a villager POV. EVERYONE IS A WOLF

omg you don't even know...

I think my paranoia came from us having such a sick villager status because I'd feel like I let the village down if wrong about MMM. I was always <rando % of MMM being a wolf though, the language and weird test he tried on me did it.

After reading the end of the den I feel like I got railroaded lol fucking daven convincing me of keybored...

It's so sick how I thought three of the wolves were lock villagers at one point or another... I still can't get over it. boog was the only one I was leaning wolf, at all, at any time, out of the four wolves. Which was probably because of the gabe lynch + Larry David.

"RTFT" is my new least favorite thing to read. It automatically puts you in my wolfy camp for being lazy. If I ask a question, it's your job to answer it or at the very least show me where it's been answered already.

I feel bad for gabe getting lynched D1 again. Every damn game it seems, aside from the last one.

I am pretty happy with my game in varchertines but I'm even happier with the amount of mistakes I found in my game this time around. I really want to be a wolf next time to see if I can carry over the villager game. I'm a terrible liar though, as many have mentioned.

As far as playing another game, I would be happy with starting a new one in a week from now. Maybe monday the 23rd, after the weekend.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Oh yeah... maybe baud didn't see my thought process at the end... 'cause it's in QT.



I just realized that my D1 vote was worse than I thought thus far.

Village would have bagged 2 W's on D1 if not for me.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Oh yeah... no days off... no breaks... 3,000 posts. I couldn't even do a read-through without falling behind on the actual game.

This game was exhausting mentally.

I finally concede that days off are pro-V.

Do your little dance, wuf.

[gabe]

That day 1 read was absolutely gross. I made sure to stay away from "it seems" from any other post afterward.

funny, Keybored made that same argument against Monstr (also a wolf) on the final day. Lesson: villagers post with conviction. Wolves aren't so sure.

totally. this is pretty much how i find wolves now.

its not hard to choose actions that a villager would. we are all good enough to do this as a wolf. the hard part is picking the words that a villager would say.

i was really hoping you were a wolf after i tried to cite my (and rilla's) track record as a reason enough to lynch you.

well played all game wolves. and cheers to the mod

[Luco]

Larry David has good material but he annoys me. I'm positive this is why I always (other than this game) want to lynch you.
Same thing goes for Dana White.

omg you don't even know...

I think my paranoia came from us having such a sick villager status because I'd feel like I let the village down if wrong about MMM. I was always <rando % of MMM being a wolf though, the language and weird test he tried on me did it.

After reading the end of the den I feel like I got railroaded lol fucking daven convincing me of keybored...

It's so sick how I thought three of the wolves were lock villagers at one point or another... I still can't get over it. boog was the only one I was leaning wolf, at all, at any time, out of the four wolves. Which was probably because of the gabe lynch + Larry David.

"RTFT" is my new least favorite thing to read. It automatically puts you in my wolfy camp for being lazy. If I ask a question, it's your job to answer it or at the very least show me where it's been answered already.

I feel bad for gabe getting lynched D1 again. Every damn game it seems, aside from the last one.

I am pretty happy with my game in varchertines but I'm even happier with the amount of mistakes I found in my game this time around. I really want to be a wolf next time to see if I can carry over the villager game. I'm a terrible liar though, as many have mentioned.

As far as playing another game, I would be happy with starting a new one in a week from now. Maybe monday the 23rd, after the weekend.

I will not stop using rtft. There is an absolute limit on the number of times I will repeat myself just to pander to the lazy.

Baudib will not stop being a smug asshole

Keybored will not stop being the wolfiest villager ever.

Your job is to read people for who they are, not bend them to conform. Until we learn to do that key will keep getting mislynched I think.

[Luco]

Jkds, superb modding as always and d1 through d3 was loads of fun!

[Luco]

Oh and mojo, sorry for flipping out over you telling me I need to vote. I found it patronising and I guess I still had some hangups from the last post game thread that I needed to get out.

[baudib]

um, Boog is a wolf 100%

wuf never does what he does if wagons are V/V

this was not the format where bussing after Day 1 was viable.

don't learn this lesson, I don't care.

let him keep lynching villagers every single day.