Varchertine's Werewolf Game Thread

[a500lbgorilla]

Well, he's certainly not mellow.

[baudib]

boog and baudib are the names id like to see lynched


if the village thought rong was a wolf, i wouldnt be "flailing" id be like "ok"


you keep coming at me but i have villagery posts. its preposterous i would play wolf like this after having such great success last game at going deeper than ive gone in years

what villagery posts? I put the question to all villagers: Has Gabe done anything this game to help the village cause?

It's not that long ago that you had a terrible wolf game where you outed yourself in the anon game and suggested that we should kill people based on having "duck" in their name. there's nothing preposterous at all about suggesting you're being wolfy.

[Keybored]

I'm curious why, with you, there's an odd number of unclaimed.

Ong...It's cuz Monstr shouldn't be on the list. He's outed with Boog.

[MadMojoMonkey]

MMM at 1/20th usual involvement I'll still be a better villager than you or Rong.

it's not like I'm anywhere near the bottom of the game in posts or involvement and I'm super unlikely to openly sabotage the village like you've done.

Really?

Cause last game on D1, I cleared 3 V's and lynched a W.


Post count does not equate to relevance.

Bringing up the self-lynch? OK. I screwed up. Mea Culpa. I've been policy lynched over it, I've modded a game, and I've had a solid performance since then. Since then, gator self lynched as a wolf, keith self-lynched, gabe basically did last game at the end, too. Now those are all different cases than mine, I grant you... but the judgement is long since expired on that one.

[Keybored]

Of the outted pairs, here's my order of lynch pref ATM:

WUF-HOOPY
GABE-RONG
BAUDIB-RILLA
BOOG-MONSTR
BID-MMM

[baudib]

Really?

Cause last game on D1, I cleared 3 V's and lynched a W.


Post count does not equate to relevance.

Bringing up the self-lynch? OK. I screwed up. Mea Culpa. I've been policy lynched over it, I've modded a game, and I've had a solid performance since then. Since then, gator self lynched as a wolf, keith self-lynched, gabe basically did last game at the end, too. Now those are all different cases than mine, I grant you... but the judgement is long since expired on that one.

there's also the game you got yourself lynched D1 for no reason.

whatever, you're not providing any value here unless Wuf flips W, which I tend to doubt.

[a500lbgorilla]

My reasons for baudib are legit. And we need to kill wolves. I would separate your mind bombs if I could. Promise

lol

Alright, this makes sense now.

[MadMojoMonkey]

there's also the game you got yourself lynched D1 for no reason.

whatever, you're not providing any value here unless Wuf flips W, which I tend to doubt.

No value?

I'm not restating the work I've done. If you choose to ignore what I'm doing, then what else are you ignoring about the thread?
Why would you be comfortable with saying this when I'm clearly involved in the conversations, I'm tossing accusations and clearing who I think are my allies.

[Hoopy]

ISN'T ANYONE ELSE CURIOUS WHY HOOPY LEFT ME OFF THIS LIST?
ISN'T IT CUZ HE KNOWS MY WOLF PARTNER AND POV SLIPPED??
IS ANYONE LISTENING???

Or you know I wrote down monstr instead of you by mistake.

[a500lbgorilla]

Or you know I wrote down monstr instead of you by mistake.

So you had monstr listed twice? Once paired off in your list and once again in the list you shared?

[bigred]

Gabe, I just don't believe that you as a villager would really think that default killing Ong because of what he did as a wolf last game would be a good move for the village.

Looks like now you're just flailing about, trying to find a lynch that the group would go for instead of making a case for why they need to die.

Haven't made it any further than this post but this is beating a dead horse and trying to kill off a strong player on some minor first post bs.

[bigred]

Or you know I wrote down monstr instead of you by mistake.

Yeah. This is more trying to hang your opponent based on silly shit that has no real impact on the game. Leave that to FOX news.

[baudib]

Haven't made it any further than this post but this is beating a dead horse and trying to kill off a strong player on some minor first post bs.

it's not minor, and it's not B.S. What has Gabe contributed since?

[Keybored]

I was going to ask if you are willfully dense but "Location: Florida" did all the talking.

Keep talking, cat lover...I'm loading my gun. If not for Rascal, I'd be voting your ass right now!

[Hoopy]

So you had monstr listed twice? Once paired off in your list and once again in the list you shared?

Pretty much, should of been keybored instead in the second list.

[OngBonga]

keyb is a villager, pretty much 100%

[gabe]

ew(baud) goes up every post

[Hoopy]

I need to go to bed soon, idk whether to vote for gabe or just to go back to boog and hope for the best.

Haven't made it any further than this post but this is beating a dead horse and trying to kill off a strong player on some minor first post bs.

Who do you want to lynch today?

[a500lbgorilla]

Wufwugy has been suspiciously absent from the fray.

[a500lbgorilla]

He has a lot of post, most of them are re-arguing a point he knows he's logically right on (null with respect to this game) and the arguing with MMM.

[a500lbgorilla]

ew(baud) goes up every post

But that is pretty standard baud. He talks until the village kills him. I remember one of the first games I played with him, I knew a wolf would never play like he did but he made 1 or 2 posts that tied me to his wagon.

[Keybored]

My recall of Villager Baudib is that he's spewy, upbeat and generally helpful when able. This game he seems 180-out from that, IMO.

[baudib]

I've given my thoughts on everyone's alignment and changed my mind on a couple of them. I'm still waiting on Monstr and Lilrascal to be their villager selves but otherwise I have a good idea of how the village lies.

I have my wolf suspects down to about 4 in 7 people and probably never lynching about 7/9ths of the others. If anyone's had a more pro-village Day 1 than me then I'm not aware of it.

[Luco]

So it's between gabe and baudib right now?

[baudib]

But that is pretty standard baud. He talks until the village kills him. I remember one of the first games I played with him, I knew a wolf would never play like he did but he made 1 or 2 posts that tied me to his wagon.

none of you actually have any idea of what "standard baud" even means. i've had about 2 living villager days on this site, 3-5 months ago.

[rong]

I really wanna lynch baidib. I don't think that's gonna happen. I can move to Luco or boog if need be. Prefer Luco to boog since boogs bunch of posts earlier.

We need to see some death for any of this to make sense. If it's gotta be mine, so be it, Im ok dying day one before I've put much effort in, although obviously I'd rather live.

People seem to be getting far too excited on day one though.

[baudib]

I really wanna lynch baidib. I don't think that's gonna happen. I can move to Luco or boog if need be. Prefer Luco to boog since boogs bunch of posts earlier.

We need to see some death for any of this to make sense. If it's gotta be mine, so be it, Im ok dying day one before I've put much effort in, although obviously I'd rather live.

People seem to be getting far too excited on day one though.

to the contrary, no one is excited enough. the potential EV swing for this day is enormous.

[rong]

And lol at "never lynching 7" people already. Super smart attitude that is. You talk for talking's sake.

[Keybored]

When tied at 4 votes apiece (Baud & Gabe) this late in the day, why does Gabe move his vote off Baud?

[rong]

Because nobody else wants lynch Rilla. And he's possibly hoping it will get Rolla on his side.

[rong]

And may as well follow his lead Rescind

Lynch boog

[a500lbgorilla]

Because nobody else wants lynch Rilla. And he's possibly hoping it will get Rolla on his side.

Tie-breaker also goes against him, I think. So moving off and moving back wouldn't change anything.

[baudib]

And lol at "never lynching 7" people already. Super smart attitude that is. You talk for talking's sake.

and you talk for what reason?

[a500lbgorilla]

wufwugy-hoopy as a pair have been pretty empty this game.

[rong]

If it came to it I'd lunch them instead of me. Bit I'm going to bed now so won't be changing my vote.

[baudib]

I'd lynch Boog-Monstr before Wuf-Hoopy.

the problem I have with lynching Boog is that my top wolf is on him.

[Luco]

lynch wuf

Off to bed.

[a500lbgorilla]

Fuck it

lynch wufwugy

[a500lbgorilla]

I'd lynch Boog-Monstr before Wuf-Hoopy.

the problem I have with lynching Boog is that my top wolf is on him.

Based on what they've put in the thread so far, I taking my stab in the dark at wuf-hoopy.

[baudib]

I don't think wolf Wuf takes the exasperated "go ahead and lynch me then" line. i'll be shocked if zero wolves were on the early Wuf wagon.

[Hoopy]

I don't see wuf as a wolf here, he seems frustrated that people aren't willing to go along with his reveal logic. 'Not mellow' by your standards rilla.

[Keybored]

It's hard to objectively value a person's defense of his partner who's leading the votes. Hoopy, if you want to survive, you gotta fight harder than that. Especially since your partner is absent...

[baudib]

he doesn't have to fight harder than that if his partner is a wofl

[Hoopy]

Well it's time for bed, hopefully I'm still alive tomorrow.

Probably Village
a500lbgorilla
Keybored
BID
Wufwugy
Luco

Wolfy
BooG
gabe

lynch BooG

[Hoopy]

Though really this is a game where individuals aren't super important, more hangs on how the village works together imo.

[a500lbgorilla]

double fuck it

lynch boog

[lilrascal]

I just got home from work. Going to read the thread.

[daven]

Sweet. Wuf looking like the lynch. As per my post 201 he's about always wolf here - all he's done is be wolfy, argue game mechanics, and get uber-defensive when looking like being lynched.
when he flips wolf we lynch baudib tomorrow.
game solved
thanks for coming.

[baudib]

Is Rascal-Big Red a team?

[Keybored]

Is Rascal-Big Red a team?

Yup.

[daven]

or boog, meh, i'm blinkered cos i'm lock on wuf being a wolf and it seems dumb to lynch anyone else. FWIW I don't like a gabe lynch today cos it would be terri-bad if he flipped villa, + i think we can wait until day 2 to address baudib's wolf-ness.

rilla, why are you defending wuf by switching your vote? team you/baudib/wuf/someone else?

[lilrascal]

Wow, over 250 posts to catch up on.

Anyone want to provide me some cliff notes?

[lilrascal]

Is Rascal-Big Red a team?

Yup.

Not saying.

[Keybored]

Since Rascal and Daven just showed up, here's an unofficial VC to help them end d1:

BOOG (5) = BID, Gabe, Rong, Hoopy, Rilla
GABE (3) = Ong, Baudib, Boog
WUF (3) = Daven, Keybored, Luco
BAUD (2) = Monstr, MMM
MMM = Wuf

No votes: BigRed, LilRascal

Known Outed Pairs:

BAUDIB-RILLA
BID-MMM
GABE-RONG
HOOPY-WUF
MONSTR-BOOG

[OngBonga]

Sweet. Wuf looking like the lynch. As per my post 201 he's about always wolf here - all he's done is be wolfy, argue game mechanics, and get uber-defensive when looking like being lynched.
when he flips wolf we lynch baudib tomorrow.
game solved
thanks for coming.

"all he's done is be wolfy",
"argue game mechanics",
"get uber-defensive when looking like being lynched".

Since when do these three "tells" point to wuf being a wolf? It tells me that wuf hasn't had his account hacked.

[a500lbgorilla]

or boog, meh, i'm blinkered cos i'm lock on wuf being a wolf and it seems dumb to lynch anyone else. FWIW I don't like a gabe lynch today cos it would be terri-bad if he flipped villa, + i think we can wait until day 2 to address baudib's wolf-ness.

rilla, why are you defending wuf by switching your vote? team you/baudib/wuf/someone else?

Is that what I'm doing?

[lilrascal]

**UNOFFICIAL VOTE COUNT**

GABE (4) -- Ong, Baudib, Boog, Rilla
BAUD (4) -- Monstr, MMM, Rong, Gabe
WUF (2) -- Daven, Keybored
BOOG (2) -- BID, Hoopy
MMM -- Wuf
Daven -- Luco

Never voted: BigRed & LilRascal

Known Pairings:

BAUDIB-RILLA
BID-MMM
WUF-HOOPY
BOOG-MONSTR

rescind boog

rilla is looking very villa right now, seriouslyof everyone playing he has the most disparity between wolf and villager.

Lets out the remaining 3 pairs.

BigRed
LilRascal
daven
luco
ong
monstr

rescind and lynch boog

people loving rilla too much to kill baudib today. but baudib is not making it to the end of the game

im sticking with the original boog reads. and its a pair (boog/monstr) that doesnt include me

And may as well follow his lead Rescind

Lynch boog

lynch wuf

Off to bed.

Fuck it

lynch wufwugy

Well it's time for bed, hopefully I'm still alive tomorrow.

Probably Village
a500lbgorilla
Keybored
BID
Wufwugy
Luco

Wolfy
BooG
gabe

lynch BooG

double fuck it

lynch boog

I think this is where we're at atm, assuming the previous unofficial vote count was right:

B]**UNOFFICIAL VOTE COUNT**[/B]

BOOG (5) -- BID, Hoopy, Gabe, Rong, Rilla
GABE (3) -- Ong, Baudib, Boog
WUF (3) -- Daven, Keybored, Luco
BAUD (2) -- Monstr, MMM
MMM -- Wuf

Not voting: BigRed & LilRascal

[lilrascal]

Since Rascal and Daven just showed up, here's an unofficial VC to help them end d1:

BOOG (5) = BID, Gabe, Rong, Hoopy, Rilla
GABE (3) = Ong, Baudib, Boog
WUF (3) = Daven, Keybored, Luco
BAUD (2) = Monstr, MMM
MMM = Wuf

No votes: BigRed, LilRascal

Known Outed Pairs:

BAUDIB-RILLA
BID-MMM
GABE-RONG
HOOPY-WUF
MONSTR-BOOG

Thanks, but I cross posted it. I'm glad they agree with each other.

[baudib]

I really don't see the huge loss if Gabe somehow flips village.

in normal circumstances I would say killing Gabe Day 1 is the wolves' job

here the wolves don't do that.

Gabe as a late-game villager is unproven as anyone. given his performance as a wolf last game, where he was convincing but didn't quite navigate the mechanics of how to reach victory, I'm not sure that villa Gabe is that much help anyway.

how has he helped us so far?

jumping along from Ong to Boog to me to whoever with very little reasoning and no logic. no one is even listening to Gabe or following his "lead"

let's kill him, I think he's a wolf.

[lilrascal]

I find it interesting that the only outed pairs that are voting the same are Gabe-Rong.

I have a strong villa vibe from Rong, but Gabe is looking wolfier. Their vote on Boog is team self pres it looks like.

I'd be really interested in Rong's thoughts on Gabe.

Lynch Gabe for some incentive for Rong to talk to me about Gabe.

[baudib]

Rascal, what do you think of Monstr?

[lilrascal]

I don't really have a read on him this game either direction, so I'd say neutral at this point.

You want to give me some cliff notes for today?

[lilrascal]

What's the case on Boog?

I had him in my villa pile, but I'm still catching up tonight?

[baudib]

I'm not super keen on the Boog wagon.

[lilrascal]

I agree. I'm still catching up, but I don't see a case for it yet.

[Keybored]

Post of the DEVIL!

Aside from that...there's no case against Boog. Don't know WTF is going on there.

[Keybored]

My theory on the Boog/Monstr wagon is "old timers" not willing to take out a fellow fogey on d1. Bad juju IMO.

[gabe]

Post of the DEVIL!

Aside from that...there's no case against Boog. Don't know WTF is going on there.

rilla and i agree he had a wolfy post. his motives werent wolfy, just his words

[baudib]

Gabe had no interest in Boog until he became a viable wagon himself. AFAICT, it's Boog had some "wolfy tone" posts and said "it seems."

i'm serious

[OngBonga]

I find it interesting that the only outed pairs that are voting the same are Gabe-Rong.

I have a strong villa vibe from Rong, but Gabe is looking wolfier. Their vote on Boog is team self pres it looks like.

I'd be really interested in Rong's thoughts on Gabe.

Lynch Gabe for some incentive for Rong to talk to me about Gabe.

It's 1.30am in rongland, you won't be seeing him before deadline.

[lilrascal]

After a quick read, here's where I stand atm (with my tryhard colors):

Villas:
Rong
Key
Ong
Baud
Monstr
Boog
Daven

Neutrals:
Rilla
BID

Meh:
Hoopy
Bigred
MMM

Wolves:
Gabe
Wuf
Luco

[lilrascal]

After catching up tonight, I don't see the case on Boog.

[lilrascal]

It's 1.30am in rongland, you won't be seeing him before deadline.

I still stand by my vote. Even more now that I've caught up on the thread (a quick read, not a detailed read) in the time I had.

[baudib]

After a quick read, here's where I stand atm (with my tryhard colors):

Villas:
Rong
Key
Ong
Baud
Monstr
Boog
Daven

Neutrals:
Rilla
BID

Meh:
Hoopy
Bigred
MMM

Wolves:
Gabe
Wuf
Luco

I'll be fairly surprised to see Rilla or BID turn up wolf. The rest of your list seems decentish, rascal, but you could be a wolf here. Especially with Daven.

Why is Daven a villager?

[Keybored]

After catching up tonight, I don't see the case on Boog.

Agreed...But certainly an opportunistic wolf or two there, yah?