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    So the physical evidence completely corroborated Wilson's account and unlike what everyone's been saying, he did know Brown was a robber in fact he was specifically sent out to apprehend him.

    No surprise btw, the national guard had been called days prior, everyone knew Wilson hadn't done anything wrong and wasn't going to get indicted. The biggest tragedy i see here how the media keeps framing everything to incite racial tensions.

    I'm getting more and more convinced that the only way to break this cycle of racial tensions is to call for public opinion to stop framing blacks as helpless victims, it just polarizes everyone. Defining black culture as gangster culture creates the dissent or divide that we are still seeing today. It's 2014, if anything else was going to solve these issues, it would have happened already. Jews and asians coming to the US as immigrants with nothing but the clothes on their back took less than a generation to get to a similar economic level as whites. This strongly contradicts the common notion that it's just because black people are poor or that they're being held back.

    Btw if anyone still thinks the police or prosecutor are in the wrong here, what are the arguments? I don't see it anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackvance View Post
    So the physical evidence completely corroborated Wilson's account and unlike what everyone's been saying, he did know Brown was a robber in fact he was specifically sent out to apprehend him.

    No surprise btw, the national guard had been called days prior, everyone knew Wilson hadn't done anything wrong and wasn't going to get indicted. The biggest tragedy i see here how the media keeps framing everything to incite racial tensions.

    I'm getting more and more convinced that the only way to break this cycle of racial tensions is to call for public opinion to stop framing blacks as helpless victims, it just polarizes everyone. Defining black culture as gangster culture creates the dissent or divide that we are still seeing today. It's 2014, if anything else was going to solve these issues, it would have happened already. Jews and asians coming to the US as immigrants with nothing but the clothes on their back took less than a generation to get to a similar economic level as whites. This strongly contradicts the common notion that it's just because black people are poor or that they're being held back.

    Btw if anyone still thinks the police or prosecutor are in the wrong here, what are the arguments? I don't see it anymore.
    On the bold, it's worth pointing out that he didn't know that Brown was the person who had robbed the store until after the altercation had already started. Wilson wasn't even going to respond to the robbery call and was on the way to a call about a sick baby. It was while he was heading to that call that he came across Brown and his associate walking in the road which started the whole ordeal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    On the bold, it's worth pointing out that he didn't know that Brown was the person who had robbed the store until after the altercation had already started. Wilson wasn't even going to respond to the robbery call and was on the way to a call about a sick baby. It was while he was heading to that call that he came across Brown and his associate walking in the road which started the whole ordeal.
    According to the statement by the procecutor yesterday Wilson dealt with the baby call quickly and went specifically for Brown, recognizing him by the description he was given about his large build, shirt, socks and the stolen cigarillo's in his hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackvance View Post
    According to the statement by the procecutor yesterday Wilson dealt with the baby call quickly and went specifically for Brown, recognizing him by the description he was given about his large build, shirt, socks and the stolen cigarillo's in his hand.
    Grand jury testimony by Wilson says that he was not going to respond to the robbery case and only realized who Brown was from the description given once the initial altercation had already taken place, so who knows.
    Last edited by spoonitnow; 11-26-2014 at 04:08 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackvance View Post
    I'm getting more and more convinced that the only way to break this cycle of racial tensions is to call for public opinion to stop framing blacks as helpless victims, it just polarizes everyone. Defining black culture as gangster culture creates the dissent or divide that we are still seeing today. It's 2014, if anything else was going to solve these issues, it would have happened already. Jews and asians coming to the US as immigrants with nothing but the clothes on their back took less than a generation to get to a similar economic level as whites. This strongly contradicts the common notion that it's just because black people are poor or that they're being held back.

    I agree with all of this pretty much, but just wanted to point out that the comparison of blacks with other immigrant groups isn't worth much. The first generation Asian immigrants in America were/are heavily subsidized by the state, and seemed to almost invariably start profitable businesses with the interest-free loans the state gives them. Blacks on the other hand have always been here and started out as slaves, then as second-class citizens, which created a nasty culture that festered as it trickled down through the generations.

    As you said, the victimization is a big part of that. Most blacks grow up thinking they have no chance, that they're entitled to free shit because of what their ancestors went through, and many think that violence is the only way to get ahead. They mostly come from single-parent homes (this strongly correlates with a lack of economic success), and they're far more likely to have suffered neglect or abuse as children (this strongly correlates with a propensity toward violence). There is no solution for these problems other than self-reflection. The welfare state will only perpetuate this mentality of victimhood and entitlement.

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