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  1. #901
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    I've seen no logic from you for why you have shifted your opinions. I have only seen opportunism. In fact, I haven't even seen you shift your opinions, just your weird inability to act on your opinions
    If you'd like I'll go back and MQ the posts I made but I'll give you cliffs. I'll give you % approximations of how I went from 95% to 65%:
    1. Ong nom: 15%. I wasn't buying Ong's theory at all about the wagons, and was pretty annoyed with him because it seemed like he knew he was lynching a villager.
    2. Luco's belief that the Daven-Wuf feud is V-V: 5%. Sidenote, I had no interest in you guys taking the village/thread hostage for the whole weekend and started looking at other people (more on that later).
    3. Gabe's endorsement of Daven as a villager: Almost 0%, because I think Gabe is making pretty weird cases and acting strangely. But Gabe has been better today too, imo.
    4. Daven's performance today: 10% Particularly in the way he wanted to thunderdome with you. I don't think wolves often take a stance of "lynch me then lynch Wuf." Also the part about not wanting to out the seer. I don't think mild bursts of villageryness are beyond Daven's skills when he's a wolf, but it's still points in his favor.
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  2. #902
    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    Wuf, I've said it like 3 times this game, but my way of finding villagers and wolves is to average in the new information with the old.

    On D1 I had Daven at approximately 95% wolf, given what's happened today I've got him at around 65%. That is not contradiction. That's processing new information.

    I'd actually still prefer lynching Daven over Keybored, by quite a bit.

    Sticking with my stone-cold lock wolf read from D1 is what led me astray the game I was utterly convinced you were a wolf.

    There's been a lot of evidence and if you're ignoring it, that just tells me that you're being inflexible with your reads or being stupid.
    I don't believe you had him as 95% on d1. Every time it looked like Daven might break away from MMM, you put words to the view MMM was a better lynch. For somebody who claims Daven is as much a wolf as you think, you have put very weak actions into it.

    As for changing with new information, Daven's latest posts that give an impression that there is a slim possibility he's just being a highly confusing villager instead of a wolf only just recently came. You had no problem ignoring your supposed reads when the day started. The theme of your play has consistently been that you want people to think you think Daven is a wolf but you secretly don't want him to die.

    If it is true that you're weighing based on new information, you're using the wrong language. You don't get to say things like "he outed himself" then "he's looking more villagery now". Dude do you not remember agreeing with me when I said that Daven could claim seer and I would call it bullshit and he could be first on the wagons of two lynched wolves and I would call him the third? You fucking agreed with me. And now you magically pretend like you never thought that? Now you say that some weakball mehcakes in Daven's recent posts are enough to turn you off what you claimed was a major epic strong wolf read?

    You're wishy washy and you're managing and you're opportunistic.
  3. #903
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    I don't believe you had him as 95% on d1. Every time it looked like Daven might break away from MMM, you put words to the view MMM was a better lynch. For somebody who claims Daven is as much a wolf as you think, you have put very weak actions into it.
    This is flatly not true. I said at one point that I liked the two wagons, but I tried my damndest to wrestle the villager out of MMM and get him to fight the lynch.

    FFS, I voted Daven and never moved off. Who did you vote for D1?
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    wuf's story about the why of his level of engagement in this game is completely inconsistent.
    as is his level of engagement relative to what he claims.
    also
    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    There's been a lot of evidence and if you're ignoring it, that just tells me that you're being inflexible with your reads or being stupid.
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  5. #905
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Because Daven is a dead wolf walking. Only dumb wolves would cinch MMM. Besides, they may think he's the cursed
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Daven could claim seer and I'm calling him a fake

    He could be first on the wagons of two lynched wolves and I'm calling him the third wolf

    Why? Did you see his first 48 hours of play? There's no coming back from that.
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  6. #906
    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    3. Gabe's endorsement of Daven as a villager: Almost 0%, because I think Gabe is making pretty weird cases and acting strangely. But Gabe has been better today too, imo.
    Oh dat Gabe. A guy who would almost surprise me if he's a wolf again since he's playing such a classic wolf


    4. Daven's performance today: 10% Particularly in the way he wanted to thunderdome with you. I don't think wolves often take a stance of "lynch me then lynch Wuf." Also the part about not wanting to out the seer. I don't think mild bursts of villageryness are beyond Daven's skills when he's a wolf, but it's still points in his favor.
    See I just can't take you seriously. Daven DIDN'T want to thunderdome with me. He suggested it on the day after he KNEW I was coming for him, and then just a couple hours later he rescinded and found a different target. How is it that you could be a villager and give him vil cred for his behavior on this? The first thing you should be thinking is how shady this makes him look
  7. #907
    The Wufwugy Villaging for Dummies book says you should, as a villager, try to lunch the wolfiest players every day.
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  8. #908
    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    MMM - 7 (wuf, rong, dhuber, aubrey, BID, daven, Ong)
    Yep. And I was emphatic that I'm coming for Daven in d2. Which I emphatically did. Then after a whole day of nobody coming along, I decided to open up about my other reads, which deal some with your blatant contradictions for why you didn't come after Daven when you gave so many hints that you would
  9. #909
    Wuf, if you're actually a villager and Daven is a wolf, you've got no one to blame for letting him off the hook D1 then you. The fact that I might not lynch Daven today is because you gave him the opportunity to put on a Davenesque performance which you yourself acknowledged:

    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    At least you're back to old form.
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  10. #910
    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    This is flatly not true. I said at one point that I liked the two wagons, but I tried my damndest to wrestle the villager out of MMM and get him to fight the lynch.

    FFS, I voted Daven and never moved off. Who did you vote for D1?
    Anybody who scrutinizes your behavior will see you get no credit for this. You were on his wagon indeed, but it seemed like it was the last place you truly wanted to be. You just wanted people to know you were there

    It should be fully expected that you would know that this sort of play is precisely what you want to do as a wolf. It should be expected that wolfbaud will plant himself on another wolf then play pattycakes
  11. #911
    I had Daven as my top wolf lean and voted him, and tried to point this out to other people.

    I didn't have him as the WOLFIEST WOLF WHO EVER WOLFIN' WOLFED.
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  12. #912
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Anybody who scrutinizes your behavior will see you get no credit for this. You were on his wagon indeed, but it seemed like it was the last place you truly wanted to be. You just wanted people to know you were there

    It should be fully expected that you would know that this sort of play is precisely what you want to do as a wolf. It should be expected that wolfbaud will plant himself on another wolf then play pattycakes
    and why exactly should that be expected?
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  13. #913
    I'd like to point out that this is the second day in a row that Wuf is calling Daven the lockiest lock wolf ever and isn't voting him.

    and now I'm going to ignore Wuf for the next 24 hours.
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  14. #914
    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    Wuf, if you're actually a villager and Daven is a wolf, you've got no one to blame for letting him off the hook D1 then you. The fact that I might not lynch Daven today is because you gave him the opportunity to put on a Davenesque performance which you yourself acknowledged:
    Man you love protecting him. You agreed with me that he's major epic wolf but now you adore protecting him

    I don't have an excuse for not lynching him on d1; I have a REASON. MMM was strong lynchings and I'd do it again. The only way we could have cleared MMM is if we figured out some reasonable explanation for why somebody who dropped a bunch of tells didn't actually mean it.

    It's hilarious that you're telling me that it's my fault that Daven wasn't lynched, yet you are claiming that you thought/think he's oh so wolfy. If Daven died d1 I'd just be lynching MMM today regardless of what Daven flipped

    I love how you act like your hands are tied. Because they are. Because wolves hands are always tied
  15. #915
    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    I had Daven as my top wolf lean and voted him, and tried to point this out to other people.

    I didn't have him as the WOLFIEST WOLF WHO EVER WOLFIN' WOLFED.
    You did a shitty job. A job so shitty you didn't want it to work. A job so shitty that you were like "oh yeah wufs lets bold him up on d2 yep yep yep" then d2 comes and I launch myself onto him just to find I'm sitting here with my dick in my hands while you're off saying "Daven who what who who?"
  16. #916
    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    and why exactly should that be expected?
    It's what saved Ong in the last game. We even talked about how great a strategy it was during the game
  17. #917
    Everyone, please go to advanced search, type in "Daven" in keywords and then "baudib" in user name, find all the posts from D1, and you can see how I was protecting him.
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  18. #918
    I'd recommend reading all of his posts
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    How anyone gives Daven villager points for that seer comment is beyond me. Ignore it if you like, say it's meaningless even, but to give him villager points for it it insane.

    baudib although I'll switch to Daven if needed, I'm down with both.
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    i am loving the heat on wuf right now. im starting to think hes a wolf. keybored and him both should not be wolves but its possible.

    wuf has said lots of things where he considers a wolf's perspective in his reasoning. this is MUCH more common in wolves than villagers. i hardly ever do it as a villager because i'm trying to mostly catch people making mistakes with their words in other ways

    to be clear its not a bad thing to consider a wolf's perspective, im just sure wolves do it way more while they are acting like villagers compared to villagers doing villagery stuff

    Quote Originally Posted by rong View Post
    How anyone gives Daven villager points for that seer comment is beyond me
    its more believable he said it as villager than a wolf. if he was a wolf he would have to be very careful. myself and others were pulling heat off him so why would he write something so controversial? if he was a wolf he would carefully review that. if he was a villager he can just spew that without thinking as much as he should about it



    any wolf accusations directed at me are from non thinkers or agitators. people havent seemed to like my monstrman read but i keep posting it when nothing requires me to do so. ill happily "tunnel" all day if i think the village is talking about the wrong people. ive been under no pressure to do anything except talk about who i think is a wolf


    the villagers i feel most strongly about are aubrey, BID and keith. i think daven is low enough wolf % that i will not take part in his lynching
  21. #921
    Hey rong:
    I doubt that you and Wuf are both wolves, but I think the chances of one of you being a wolf is rising dramatically.

    I pointed out a logical inconsistency in your thinking before, and I know you justified it somehow because you're in the camp of "it's ok to lynch a villager if they do something stupid." Fine.

    Both you and Wuf are voting me right now. Think about the reason you thought I was wolfy before. I disagree, but you're entitled to your opinion. Now, think about the reason Wuf claims I am a wolf.

    A. I am a wolf because MMM-Daven were V-V, and I wanted Daven lynched over him and exerted great effort to do so.
    B. I am a wolf because I am W-W with Daven and was both bussing AND trying to protect him.
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    No, not stupid. If a villager does something that will later jeopardise the village then he needs to go. How else do we deal with him. Wolves will never eat him because he is a legitimate cursed risk. He had to die.

    Your politician response where you start each post aimed at me by continuing to peddle the same lie further confirms your role to me.
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  23. #923
    Also, Dan, maybe you don't think about these types of things, but maybe you should. The last time you were a village special, you shot the seer. I knew he was the seer, and I was very careful to try to not draw any attention to him.

    There's two sides to this:
    A. Wolf Daven craftily came up with something that would make him sound villagery "OMG I almost outed the seer."
    B. Villager Daven thought he nailed a wolf and realized this player might look wolfy to him because he's the seer.

    Which one is more likely?

    And I honestly can't believe I am the one having to prove that Daven has done a couple of villagery things when I still think he's probably a wolf.

    This is the part of being a villager that I hate, this game of "Are you a wolf, or just being stupid?"
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  24. #924
    And Daven, if you're a wolf, well played.
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    I do think about these things.

    I think it's likely he coujd think he'd nailed a wolf and then think oppsey that could be the seer. I get that. I just don't think villager Daven would then post it.
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  26. #926
    Quote Originally Posted by rong View Post
    No, not stupid. If a villager does something that will later jeopardise the village then he needs to go. How else do we deal with him. Wolves will never eat him because he is a legitimate cursed risk. He had to die.

    Your politician response where you start each post aimed at me by continuing to peddle the same lie further confirms your role to me.
    This doesn't make sense. Wolves will always eat him if he's a legitimate cursed risk.
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    Yeah, I meant we won't know if they did.
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  28. #928
    Quote Originally Posted by rong View Post
    Yeah, I meant we won't know if they did.
    Hoopy said we will be explicitly told if the conversion happens. If Mojo was still alive at this point he would have been the snap lynch
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    You can look at some examples where we know what we'll do, but we still leave the potential to be stuck. I can't be bothered to break down the scenarios on my phone for a guy already dead. But the potential for a spot where he is alive and we end up being pushed into killing him very much exists.
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  30. #930
    Rong you are making a classic WW mistake. You've actually done it twice.

    Re: MMM, you're not making any sense as Luco pointed out.

    And Hoopy said the village will know when the Cursed converts. Are you even reading the thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    This is the part of being a villager that I hate, this game of "Are you a wolf, or just being stupid?"
    "stupid" might be too strong of a word but i totally agree

    everyone should be contributing to the most logical strategy for the village. together we come up with the most sound strategy. participating in this collaboration shows how innocent you are. if you provide 100% of the best strategy, no one is less wolfy than you. if you provide 0% of any good/loglcal strategy then no one is more wolfy than you

    imagine a perfect world where everyone played perfect and the village came up with the most +ev strategy every single day. the wolves would be forced to also do this or they would be exposed by the perfectly playing villagers. they could not exploit us but every mistake would cost them.

    thats kinda how i think about what we should strive for and also kinda explains why i dont run with werewolf conspiracy theories
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    Rong you are making a classic WW mistake. You've actually done it twice.

    Re: MMM, you're not making any sense as Luco pointed out.

    And Hoopy said the village will know when the Cursed converts. Are you even reading the thread?
    Lol I give up.

    I'm not discussing this with you any more. You ignore specific points I make and respond to the points you can argue with, but you never, ever address the entire position I represent and somehow think you have proved my point wrong.

    This is going round in circles. I'm bored of it. Your constant refusal to acknowledge the argument in its entirety is exhausting. You are a fine politician. But your posts have no value.
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    to me it seems like baudib is playing a very strong villager game right now. he shouldnt be a lynch candidate, rong

    if baudib masterfully became a wolf who could play such a strong villager would you be more surprised than if he was a villager this game?
  34. #934
    Anyway, MMM was such a low-accountability lynch there almost has to be wolves on it. It looks like Aubrey or BID had the most wolfy votes.

    Aubrey has 2 supporters (Wuf, Gabe) and 1 detractor (BR) all claiming specific reads. I thought Aubrey came across as villagery despite being absent so much. The thing that bothers me is she is one of about 4 people who soft-pushed Daven and didn't vote him, and she said she would be willing to revisit the vote. MMM noted she was lurking and never came back.

    BID has essentially been inactive. He has shared no thoughts and given almost no reasoning for any of his votes.

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    I don't find him particularly villagery so I don't agree. If I did find him villagery, then I probably wouldn't be making these posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    Anyway, MMM was such a low-accountability lynch there almost has to be wolves on it. It looks like Aubrey or BID had the most wolfy votes.
    i dont know what you mean in the first sentence but that wagon didnt necessarily have to have wolves on it. the wolves probably didnt care who got lynched except for the fact that MMM seemed liked higher than avg cursed %, which would make wolves even less inclined to be on that wagon

    i say focus has to be wuf/keybored, and now rong is more suspicious to me, and ofc monstrman
  37. #937
    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    "stupid" might be too strong of a word but i totally agree

    everyone should be contributing to the most logical strategy for the village. together we come up with the most sound strategy. participating in this collaboration shows how innocent you are. if you provide 100% of the best strategy, no one is less wolfy than you. if you provide 0% of any good/loglcal strategy then no one is more wolfy than you

    imagine a perfect world where everyone played perfect and the village came up with the most +ev strategy every single day. the wolves would be forced to also do this or they would be exposed by the perfectly playing villagers. they could not exploit us but every mistake would cost them.

    thats kinda how i think about what we should strive for and also kinda explains why i dont run with werewolf conspiracy theories
    Gabe, I'm not convinced you're a villager but I'm coming around to it. The problem here is I agree with you but there is nothing here you couldn't say as a wolf. Let me state that I've been trapped by wolves who say "you must be a villager" more than once.

    Anyway, yes. When the village plays well, it is almost impossible for wolves to win. If villagers work hard to act villagery, read the thread, find other villagers, put pressure on a wide range of people, the wolves will not win, no matter how skilled they are. Almost all wolf wins involve awful blunders by the village.

    and yes, I try not to buy into conspiracy theories but sometimes it's hard not to. Imagine if Ong hadn't gotten nommed, right now I would still be thinking about him and Keybored possibly cackling in the den.
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    Also Gabe, throughout my conversations with baudib, he persistently ignores parts of my argument, picks out a small part and dismisses it, then implies he has proved the whole point wrong. He also throws in a condescending remark each time. Its a pretty standard approach to being wrong in a situation where you don't want others to realise it.

    That makes him seem wolfy.
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    which specific part, Rong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rong View Post
    I don't find him particularly villagery so I don't agree. If I did find him villagery, then I probably wouldn't be making these posts.
    yea obviously dude! my point is since you dont see it, you seem wolfier than average. i dont think im seeing things as far as baudib being a villager. im hoping its obvious to everyone in the village, which would make you very suspicious
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    And baudib appears to either be buttering up Gabe or putting himself in a position where he can be seen to be coming around to Gabe but it just seems entirely fake.
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    confirmation bias is a real thing.
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    im independently trying to point out everything i see and think to help the village as per post #931. ive not needed to post this whole game. i was skating by just fine but i thought the village was off track. the only wolf conspiracy i would fit into would be that i posted to defend a wolf about to die. i havent defended anyone about to die. so my actions are not logical if i was a wolf
  44. #944
    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    this is VERY strong evidence daven is a villager


    obviously the wolves would love to eat the cursed villager, which we have to factor in on why they chose ong. (i dont think ong gave anything away indicating he could be seer or priest. but i could still come across that in review)

    for daven to say something which we know the wolves likely believed (that ong was cursed) makes it very unlikely daven is a wolf
    Your post is assumption heavy. IF daven is V what makes you think the wolves weren't seer hunting instead? Or targeting a strong villager? Or a combination of the three?

    And if Daven is a wolf wouldn't he just misdirect his cursed reads? The posts of ong's he quoted were flimsy and Baud picked up on it straight away

    Your defense of daven is noted though
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    which specific part, Rong?
    We've been arguing for days, you've been half answering for days.

    I made my position extremely clear on why I voted mmm, I'm spite of me thinking he was coming across villagery. The post was a complete explanation.

    There were no inconsistencies in it because it acknowledged the contradictory point you bring up and explained it perfectly, to the point that a cleared villager in ong agreed with it too.

    Yet you keep on rattling on about this inconsistency as if it somehow makes me wolfy.

    You never, ever, at any point acknowledge or refute the entire argument, you avoid it and pick up on posts by me which supported that original post and comment on then in isolation to enable you to present it in a different light.

    A villager has no incentive to do so.

    Now when it was me alone going after you it was easy to ignore. Now wuf had taken issue with you you suddenly seem interested in having this discussion and your influential buddy Gabe jumps in to defend you.

    As much as I hate to agree with wuf about anything, à Gabe/baudib/Daven team does make sense.

    I imagine that's to simple though and one of you is being played.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    confirmation bias is a real thing.
    Well duh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rong View Post
    We've been arguing for days, you've been half answering for days.

    I made my position extremely clear on why I voted mmm, I'm spite of me thinking he was coming across villagery. The post was a complete explanation.

    There were no inconsistencies in it because it acknowledged the contradictory point you bring up and explained it perfectly, to the point that a cleared villager in ong agreed with it too.

    Yet you keep on rattling on about this inconsistency as if it somehow makes me wolfy.

    You never, ever, at any point acknowledge or refute the entire argument, you avoid it and pick up on posts by me which supported that original post and comment on then in isolation to enable you to present it in a different light.

    A villager has no incentive to do so.

    Now when it was me alone going after you it was easy to ignore. Now wuf had taken issue with you you suddenly seem interested in having this discussion and your influential buddy Gabe jumps in to defend you.

    As much as I hate to agree with wuf about anything, à Gabe/baudib/Daven team does make sense.

    I imagine that's to simple though and one of you is being played.
    Alright I will address this because you're operating under several false assumptions..

    1. I am not pointing out your logical inconsistencies because I think you're wolfy. I am pointing them out because I think you are making classic villager mistakes.
    2. The reason Ong voted for MMM was because he believed Daven was a villager due to wagonomics.
    3. It appears that you don't agree with Ong on this point, because you still think Daven is wolf.
    4. It appears you agree with Wuf when his entire argument on how I could be a wolf directly contradicts the reason you thought I was a wolf.
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  48. #948
    As to other matters, I had a hard time reading any of the Keybored-Keith exchanges. I don't think I can support a Keybored lynch today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    Anyway, MMM was such a low-accountability lynch there almost has to be wolves on it. It looks like Aubrey or BID had the most wolfy votes.

    Aubrey has 2 supporters (Wuf, Gabe) and 1 detractor (BR) all claiming specific reads. I thought Aubrey came across as villagery despite being absent so much. The thing that bothers me is she is one of about 4 people who soft-pushed Daven and didn't vote him, and she said she would be willing to revisit the vote. MMM noted she was lurking and never came back.

    BID has essentially been inactive. He has shared no thoughts and given almost no reasoning for any of his votes.

    Lynch Drew.
    Dhuber, bigred and gabe all think drew is village. Dhuber is the only one who explains why

    lynch drew
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    I can see several comments like 'player xxxx would be more active as a wolf'

    Yeah because real life is role indicative...

    /sarcasm

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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    Alright I will address this because you're operating under several false assumptions..

    1. I am not pointing out your logical inconsistencies because I think you're wolfy. I am pointing them out because I think you are making classic villager mistakes.
    2. The reason Ong voted for MMM was because he believed Daven was a villager due to wagonomics.
    3. It appears that you don't agree with Ong on this point, because you still think Daven is wolf.
    4. It appears you agree with Wuf when his entire argument on how I could be a wolf directly contradicts the reason you thought I was a wolf.
    Wow, seriously, you're really quite special. In responding to a post accusing you of a specific behavior you actually demonstrate the same behavior.

    Can you read and comprehend English? I assume you can but you keep providing evidence to the contrary.
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    Or perhaps you're choosing to pick up on the points that suit you.
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  53. #953
    Rong, what in the actual fuck. I get the fact that you still wanted to lynch someone who you said was villagery based on the advice of someone you thought was wolfy. I think it's wrong, you don't, whatever, move on.

    Have you considered the problem with your argument and Wuf's argument? There is no universe in which they can reconcile.
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    Wait what? No!

    You Stoll haven't acknowledged the point of anything I have been saying. You're doing the same thing again.

    Deliberately obtuse, to steal a phrase from Stephen king.
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  55. #955
    Rong, explain to me like I'm a 2-year-old the exact point you wish me to address.

    If I haven't addressed it I simply don't understand it. Sorry for being stupid.
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  56. #956
    If there's an actual point in post 945 that I ignored then I don't know what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    As to other matters, I had a hard time reading any of the Keybored-Keith exchanges. I don't think I can support a Keybored lynch today.
    I always found that after wolfing with someone I was able to read them a little clearer in the next game, so I was hoping for some insight from you re keybored. He's similar to last game in both tone and content, I think prob the best strat is to try and read him vicariously once we bag a wolf i.e. evaluate his interactions with that player and hope we can clear him that way.

    Everything keith has said is within his wolf range but I admittedly skim his posts more than I should. I will expand on this after a readthrough
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    Quote Originally Posted by rong View Post
    Wait what? No!

    You Stoll haven't acknowledged the point of anything I have been saying. You're doing the same thing again.

    Deliberately obtuse, to steal a phrase from Stephen king.
    Shawshank? Please tell me that's Shawshank Redemption?
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    Rong and baudib need to get off each other
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    Dhuber, bigred and gabe all think drew is village. Dhuber is the only one who explains why

    lynch drew
    can you explain the reasoning behind this vote Luco. Are you agreeing with Baudib's reasons for lynching or worried about bigred gabe and dhubers reasons for saying he's village. it just looks an ambiguous vote to me.
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    Keith, can you give cliffs on why Keybored is a wolf?
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  62. #962
    Rong, you can share my rustle brush after I'm done with it. I'm going to bed (5:30 a.m.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    can you explain the reasoning behind this vote Luco. Are you agreeing with Baudib's reasons for lynching or worried about bigred gabe and dhubers reasons for saying he's village. it just looks an ambiguous vote to me.
    hey beetlejuice

    Yes and yes. I agree with baud and I dont get why people are towning drew at all. At least dhuber took the time to explain himself
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  64. #964
    Here's BID's entire d2 contribution: LOL Keith, FU Keybored, smart one be JKDS. D1 blows but I'm back (that was 200 post ago, btw). Whatchya gonna do for the village today, BID??


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    In keith we trust. lynch keybored
    Quote Originally Posted by BankItDrew View Post
    rescind. lynch JKDS JKDS is too smart to know that this info doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. Keybored is a wolf too.
    Quote Originally Posted by BankItDrew View Post
    Yeah sorry, I was away for most of Day 1. I'm back now though. Besides, it was Day 1.
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  65. #965
    Dhuber...Love your 4 posts so far today. But if you plan on doing a buncha page-reads and come up "awe shucks" again, then don't bother. Give us some wolves already, yah?
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    Keith...5 of your 6 posts today are tunneled on me. But ppl are just not that into it. Let's work on something more productive, shall we?
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  67. #967
    AUBREY...Hello? It's D2! Your alarm clock not go off? Crickets not helping. Plz come play with us?? Besides, we could use less testosterone and moar estrogen about now.
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  68. #968
    MONSTRMEN...Thanks for stopping by for a spurt in btwn WW world domination. But couldya join the party b4 d2 ends?
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  69. #969
    I'm with rong , wtf is/does beetlejuice refer to ,baudib has used it as well . I'm starting a new thread for slang/abbreviations.
  70. #970
    Halfway thru D2. I'm sensing a lull in the action but it's a wknd, so meh.
    POST COUNT today in case anyone cares:

    BAUD = 66
    WUF = 41
    DAVEN = 24
    RONG = 23
    KEYB = 21
    GABE = 17
    LUCO = 13
    JKDS = 9
    RED = 7
    KEITH = 6
    MONSTR = 5
    DHUBS = 4
    BID = 3
    AUBREY = 0
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  71. #971
    ABove is something that really pisses me off about everyone's obsession with post counts, why the hell can't Keybored put all of those posts into 1 post. the theme for all of the, is people not posting(much) so far today. Its easy to put that into 1 post but why the hell should he bother when he can get an appearance of activity by getting 5 or 6 posts instead of one. Aubrey has also done this earlier in the game as well as others.In Aubrey's defence for not posting today , she did post to say that she was going away , but no idea how long for.If i spotted that tunnelled on keybored (like i am in his words) , how did he miss that piece of information.
  72. #972
    Sheesh...now I don't post properly enuf for u keith? just for that, I ain't telling you what a beetlejuice is. so, there. I'm trying to get folks to help out, that's all. this is just my midday/halftime pep talk. And yes, I knew Aubrey was going afk, that's why I used lotsa humor with her instead of being pissy. unlike your attitude. dude, get over yourself.
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  73. #973
    my point is that you are pointing out the number of posts people make which is totally irrelevent , it is easily manipulted as you clearly showed by putting in a number of one line posts when you could easily have made one post for them. It also shows no consideration for the content of posts. That makes the whole point of those posts meaningless just as all the rehashing of what has happened is irrelevent . it is designed to show activity but proves nothing about the authors role at all. Only when people put a commentary on and try to make a case supported by evidence does that sort of research have any validity and helps to show the intent of the author.

    Read through the whole thread , and look how many one line posts are made that add no evidence either way.If irrelevent one liners were deleted we'd probably have half the number of posts so far
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    I assume beetleguise is only appearing when your name is called.
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    I'm sure it's spelt something like that.
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