Ultimate Werewolf

[wufwugy]

Oh dat Daven

Instead of re-copypasta'ing, since Keybored just did it above, read post 177, 191, and 192. That's everything Daven has posted. 192, he bolds me

The meta between me and Daven, or at least my assumption of the meta, is that he knows he ALWAYS bolds me on d1. But normally he does it when I'm really active, because it gives his always-suspecting-wuf mind easy pickings to find something he doesn't like. But I haven't done that and he hasn't done that. All he's said is he has no reads, then that he thinks me and monstr are a team, all for what appears no reason. While I have attacked MMM, Daven has acknowledged the veracity of my argument but then bolded me instead

This looks like wolf-daven doing two things: (1) he knows attacking me is expected of him and (2) he agrees that MMM is the likely cursed candidate, so attacking me is just good on the numbers for his team

I'm staying on MMM, but I think they're both baddies

BTW since I love ripping on non-FTR WW players, if MMM seriously did use "the gambit" as a tactic, and learned it from reading the game of champs on 2p2 or whatever, it's +1 for FTR since that's a dumb strategy. Villagers who pretend to be anything other than villagers are only making the wolves' job easier.

Villages beat wolves by forcing wolves to be the wolfiest players left, and wolves beat villages by villagering better than the village. There, I just wrote the tell-all book on WW. That's be $20. I accept Paypal

[baudib]

BTW since I love ripping on non-FTR WW players, if MMM seriously did use "the gambit" as a tactic, and learned it from reading the game of champs on 2p2 or whatever, it's +1 for FTR since that's a dumb strategy. Villagers who pretend to be anything other than villagers are only making the wolves' job easier.

Villages beat wolves by forcing wolves to be the wolfiest players left, and wolves beat villages by villagering better than the village. There, I just wrote the tell-all book on WW. That's be $20. I accept Paypal

I feel like you're talking a lot about generic werewolf strategy as opposed to anything game related. That said, I feel a bit better about you since your most recent posts, although it's a tendency for most people to think of people as wolfy when they aren't around.

As far as the above post, I mean it's pretty basic WW101, which can lead you to a lot of embarrassing losses against tricky wolves.

Villagers can be wolfy, wolves can do villagery things. I think that the context of the game is important though; I was in a game recently where 3 villagers made wolf claims, and almost no one batted an eye.

The problem MMM has here is that our culture is totally different, our playstyle is very conservative and D1 FPS by villagery basically doesn't happen. For example, look how much shit Dhuber has gotten over claiming "vanilla." Can you imagine if he claimed wolf?

[wufwugy]

I feel like you're talking a lot about generic werewolf strategy as opposed to anything game related. That said, I feel a bit better about you since your most recent posts, although it's a tendency for most people to think of people as wolfy when they aren't around.

I have a different schedule than everybody else. I'm gone each weekday for a long stretch while everybody else is on. I also post less and less with each new game. I've also been creating rules for myself in an attempt to make my play better. Those rules include things like not posting about who I think are villagers and instead just posting who I think are wolves. Naturally this cuts down on a ton of text

[baudib]

I have a different schedule than everybody else. I'm gone each weekday for a long stretch while everybody else is on. I also post less and less with each new game. I've also been creating rules for myself in an attempt to make my play better. Those rules include things like not posting about who I think are villagers and instead just posting who I think are wolves. Naturally this cuts down on a ton of text

this means that you're only doing like 1/4th the job of a villager.

how is it you have time to talk about theoretical WW strat but not who you think are villagers? Do you not think that a clear, easily followed progression on your reads is helpful to the village, not only in finding villagers and wolves but also to clear yourself?

[wufwugy]

this means that you're only doing like 1/4th the job of a villager.

how is it you have time to talk about theoretical WW strat but not who you think are villagers? Do you not think that a clear, easily followed progression on your reads is helpful to the village, not only in finding villagers and wolves but also to clear yourself?

Oh I have the time to talk about who I think are villagers, at least right now. I just don't think that's good WW strategy, or at least it's bad for me

Remember the first game we played together (excluding the late sub one), where the wolves were Gabe, Keith, and Scourrge? I died with my bold on Gabe. I was very keyed into him being a wolf, but the only thing anybody remembered was all of my other more complicated reads, that I made out of boredom while I was waiting for people to back me on Gabe, and those reads were wrong. Furthermore, it looked like I was sucking, because taking my reads at the time of my death, the wolves would have won. I don't think the game works like that since reads are always subject to change based on new information, but others don't agree and the village got labelled as one of the worst villages in a long time. Partly because of me

My play was strong until I got complex with it. Since then I decided I'm just going to go after the main person I think should die. If I had done that and lived to the last day, we would have won that game


Posting vil reads is a legit strategy though. I'm not saying I'm right, just that I think I'm right for me. It has gotten me in a lot of trouble in the past