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 Originally Posted by baudib
Wuf, if you want us to just drop this ok but, I feel like you've moved the goal posts.
You didn't say all of GRRM's women who are clearly central characters with POV chapters.
There's just no way, in the Game of Thrones, where you win or you die, that anyone could justify calling Margaery or Olenna side characters. They are huge players in the political landscape of Westeros. We could probably include Melisandre and Dany in there too, but he kinda fumbled the ball with them.
If you want to say that he has some classically sexist portrayals of women and that his male characters are better developed, on the average smarter and that he writes their POVs better, then I'd probably agree with you.
They are the definition of side characters. The amount we understand Olenna is 100x less than the amount we understand Cersei.
Perhaps I should have worded it differently in the beginning by stating that the theme seems to arise only when GRRM has to use devices to explain his female characters, their plots, etc. But even that's confusing.
I doubt GRRM has ever sat around thinking "what to do with Olenna, what to do....", but he absolutely has thought "what to do with Brienne, what to do...". Brienne is a driver of the plot, GRRM has to create her mind and her motivations to move forward. Olenna is more of a foil, and we don't have to know much about her to see what's going on. My point is that when GRRM answers the question "where are we going with this", it curiously involves the central women being dummies and/or needing men to help them
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