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    On a $10k downer at 2/4 over the last few months. Running very bad and I think I'm taking some of this GTO stuff a bit far. (ie: calling rivers too light , too often). I'm well beyond the point now where I have enough stats on villains that I shouldn't need to just play GTO all the time because I don't know any better, I have enough information that I should be able to make more exploitable decisions.

    I don't have that much on my stars account anymore, and I'm trying not to busto my online roll at the moment to avoid having to deposit. I might slow things down a bit this weekend, and study instead of grind.

    Was doing some prelim studying on this $10k downer and analyzing spots i'm losing the most:

    3betting IP (BTN and CO) - I was down like $6k over this downswing. I had been playing pretty aggressive. This is clearly AWFUL, as I would have essentially been better off just folding all of these hands. There is NO reason to do anything -EV outside of the blinds.

    Heavily related to the above point, 3betting and flatting 4b IP - down like $3k or so. Running at like -1450bb/100. Presumably my 3b IP are generally to 8-9bb, so 3b and folding would result in at worse -900bb/100. I'm actually doing worse by defending by peeling IP to small 4b. (stuff like 3b 78s, or KQs and peeling 4b).

    My blind play over this stretch hasn't been great either. -22bb/100 from SB and -37bb/100 from BB. Need to really focus on my blind cold call and call down ranges.

    I currently have CReV and Combonator and have been pondering getting Flopzilla too, though not sure if necessary or if ppl have compared these? I want a program that will easily allow me to set solid call down ranges vs different btn cbet ranges on different boards.

    GENERAL changes:
    -I need to get back to playing every table for a reason. If there is no clear reason to be on a table, just drop it. Even if that means 4-5 tabling the session, instead of 8 tabling.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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    Quote Originally Posted by griffey24 View Post
    3betting IP (BTN and CO) - I was down like $6k over this downswing. I had been playing pretty aggressive. This is clearly AWFUL, as I would have essentially been better off just folding all of these hands. There is NO reason to do anything -EV outside of the blinds.
    what's happening here? overplaying your weak hands postflop by too much consideration of the strong end of your range?

    Quote Originally Posted by griffey24 View Post
    -I need to get back to playing every table for a reason. If there is no clear reason to be on a table, just drop it. Even if that means 4-5 tabling the session, instead of 8 tabling.
    what do you think the quality of your decisions would be like in the sessions you end up 4 tabling vs 8-tabling? fewer tables for me means a struggle to keep from expanding my preflop ranges too much, but when i succeed on that front things work out pretty well for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daven View Post
    what's happening here? overplaying your weak hands postflop by too much consideration of the strong end of your range?


    what do you think the quality of your decisions would be like in the sessions you end up 4 tabling vs 8-tabling? fewer tables for me means a struggle to keep from expanding my preflop ranges too much, but when i succeed on that front things work out pretty well for me.
    With regards to the losing money 3b IP. It's mostly 3b EP raisers that have somewhat wide opens (20%) with hands that flop top pairs well (KT/ATo, KQ/KJ etc) and then too often either winning on the flop when I'm good or losing at least two streets (ck back flop and call turn/rivs when I'm not). ie: Flop QJx with KJ and ck back flop and call a couple of streets etc, cause it's near the top of my ck back range on flop).

    As for the 4 vs 8 tabling, this is tough. I think my optimal is probably somewhere between there. Less tables I focus more, but I also am almost not busy enough to the point where I can get too creative and spew. 8 tables, less focus overall is not ideal but also too busy focusing on 8 tabling that i don't have enough time to do creative dumb spews.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks

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