Anti-Capitalist Sentiment (with some morality)

[wufwugy]

Capitalism is a clever system. If you do something someone else will trade you for, you're doing well. It brilliantly incentivizes people to produce for other's consumption. There may be a better system, and I doubt I'll have the deep pleasure to see what it is.

All the bullshit that falls from it isn't necessarily a result of it so much as the same bullshit any system which aims to incentivize a whole people would deal with.

This thread is fun because it calls for people to come after capitalism and that's like asking people to come after God. People craft their lives around these things because they have a fluid chameleon like property to seemingly fit all sorts of needs. Capitalism doesn't fully encapsulate human tendency though it can seem to if you're not careful.

Capitalism is great, but not Great.

And others to produce for your consumption.

Overall I tend to agree. Don't treat things like God.

If I had to guess at a better system, it would be just a more refined capitalism. I mean, this system creates technological advancements unlike any other we can think of, and those tech advancements are what ultimately will be responsible for individual autonomy and communal equality

[a500lbgorilla]

If I had to guess at a better system, it would be just a more refined capitalism. I mean, this system creates technological advancements unlike any other we can think of, and those tech advancements are what ultimately will be responsible for individual autonomy and communal equality

A beddar thread would be to lay odds on American free market space cowboys mining asteroids against the careful Chinese government mining the moon. Who will find the wealth to build the Empire? Who will manage to overcome the tidal forces of our upturning world? Stay tuned for The Future.

[wufwugy]

A beddar thread would be to lay odds on American free market space cowboys mining asteroids against the careful Chinese government mining the moon. Who will find the wealth to build the Empire? Who will manage to overcome the tidal forces of our upturning world? Stay tuned for The Future.

South Korea

Final answer

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And others to produce for your consumption.

Overall I tend to agree. Don't treat things like God.

If I had to guess at a better system, it would be just a more refined capitalism. I mean, this system creates technological advancements unlike any other we can think of, and those tech advancements are what ultimately will be responsible for individual autonomy and communal equality

Why do you think a more refined capitalism is towards a pure free market on the spectrum? This seems like a convenient assumption made by libertarians and the like: everything good that has happened in society in the past few centuries is due to the free market elements; everything bad is due to not being far enough on the path to free marketopia.

[a500lbgorilla]

Why do you think a more refined capitalism is towards a pure free market on the spectrum? This seems like a convenient assumption made by libertarians and the like: everything good that has happened in society in the past few centuries is due to the free market elements; everything bad is due to not being far enough on the path to free marketopia.

So if you had to guess at a better system?

[wufwugy]

Why do you think a more refined capitalism is towards a pure free market on the spectrum? This seems like a convenient assumption made by libertarians and the like: everything good that has happened in society in the past few centuries is due to the free market elements; everything bad is due to not being far enough on the path to free marketopia.

Earlier I said both free market and cooperative. But the main reason why free market over state capitalism when economies are more dynamic is something history has played out. Like a previous example I made, Japan increased its dynamism through state capitalism, but in the face of increased competition, it has been unable to keep growing due to lack of free market capitalism. China is similar except instead of sticking with just state capitalism, it is introducing free market elements when it can.

Look at it this way: what would better create the internet, private businesses or the government? The answer is the government. But what would better innovate the internet, private businesses or the government? The answer is private business. We have seen this exact thing play out in our society. Generally speaking, state capitalism creates entirely new things well (things where there would be no incentive for private interests), but private businesses innovate those things well. As the economy becomes more and more dynamic and as private wealth hubs increase, we see more private interests engage in original creation, like Elon Musk with SpaceX.