[10NL] J8o...SB vs BB...4bet pot.

[Cobra_1878]

Villain is 20/16/6 (3bet), with an AF of 3, over 331 hands. Fold blind to steal 73%, 3betting steals from blinds 10%.

Villain is TAG reg and seems positionally aware.

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): $11.18
BB: $20.30
UTG: $4.81
MP: $15.19
CO: $10.59
BTN: $28.63

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 8 J

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.35, BB raises to $1.20, Hero raises to $2.80, BB calls $1.60

Flop: ($5.60, 2 players) 8 4 J
Hero bets $3.20, BB calls $3.20

Turn: ($12.00, 2 players) 4
Hero ???

[eugmac]

Can you explain your preflop decision?

[rpm]

i'd fold to his 3b 100% of the time here. so many better hands we could use in our 4b bluff range. however i have no idea what i think we should do OTT, which is obviously the decision point you're most interested in

[Cobra_1878]

Yeah he was 3betting my BU and SB opens enough to make me think he was doing it with a good % of air so I decided to play back at him. Obviously wasn't expecting a call.

[eugmac]

thing is, if you do it with j8o what does the rest of your 4b bluff range look like?

[Cobra_1878]

thing is, if you do it with j8o what does the rest of your 4b bluff range look like?

Yeah, I realize my mistake here. I wasn't really thinking in terms of my range, just wanted to try and make villain think twice before 3betting my opens.

[abelardx]

I think you're pot committed. I'd just roll with it. Probably your best play is to go into check/call mode or even check/jam.

Aside from preflop, I'd bet much bigger on the flop like pot or even open-jam the flop.

[griffey24]

Not a great hand to 4b with, esp if he is capable of flatting you.

As played, getting the stacks in.

Also you can prob size flop much smaller. $1.80-2.20 or something is fine, given stacks remaining and size of pot.

[Cobra_1878]

Not a great hand to 4b with, esp if he is capable of flatting you.

As played, getting the stacks in.

Also you can prob size flop much smaller. $1.80-2.20 or something is fine, given stacks remaining and size of pot.

I wasn't expecting a call.

What worse hands do you expect villain to stack off with on this turn?

[griffey24]

There's a half pot shove left on the turn if I'm not mistaken. Seeing as how he can put you on AQ/AK, then I'm expecting ppl to be able to call off any pair here.

I'm also assuming most ppl will 5b jam QQ+ pre. So now he's left with random 8x, 99, TT, Jx stuff mostly.