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  1. #1
    Set up sizing to always leave a reasonable river bet behind (2/3-3/4 pot is reasonable), so that your bluffs will have fold equity and so your sizing with value hands is consistent with bluffing.

    Also in a 3b pot we're generally very polarized going for 3 streets (our bluffs have to work much less often with smaller sizing), and I'm not too concerned about giving drawing hands odds to call (cause many stronger draws will raise in 3b pots anyhow, especially if we size it small).
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  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by griffey24 View Post
    Set up sizing to always leave a reasonable river bet behind (2/3-3/4 pot is reasonable), so that your bluffs will have fold equity and so your sizing with value hands is consistent with bluffing.

    Also in a 3b pot we're generally very polarized going for 3 streets (our bluffs have to work much less often with smaller sizing), and I'm not too concerned about giving drawing hands odds to call (cause many stronger draws will raise in 3b pots anyhow, especially if we size it small).
    This is just silly and seems like you've come up with a lazy solution to a problem you had one day of trying to optimise bet sizing for bluffs and value bets in 3bet pots.
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by ImSavy View Post
    This is just silly and seems like you've come up with a lazy solution to a problem you had one day of trying to optimise bet sizing for bluffs and value bets in 3bet pots.
    Obviously if I have 999 and the flop is QJ9 two tone, I'm not going to bet 1/3rd of the pot. Or other similarly draw heavy boards. The board will play a critical role in my flop sizing. But on a drawy flop I think a ton of villains range will call flop and a turn shove, so I'll likely go for two streets.

    Also if villain is a huge whale, I'll size earlier streets bigger cause I know he'll call anything with any draw but won't call many rivers unless he hits.

    But on a non threatening board vs a reg where my betting is probably very polarized, A72, K95 or this spot Q23, and my goal is to go three streets then that method just helps me size appropriately.

    Please propose to me a better plan for bet sizing on 3 streets? Because in the hand in question you've left yourself mostly either overbet shoving turn, or betting a reasonable size on the turn (~halfpot) but leaving yourself much less than half pot on river.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by griffey24 View Post

    Please propose to me a better plan for bet sizing on 3 streets? Because in the hand in question you've left yourself mostly either overbet shoving turn, or betting a reasonable size on the turn (~halfpot) but leaving yourself much less than half pot on river.
    I should just raise bigger/smaller pre. In this case I'd probably prefer bigger.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by ImSavy View Post
    I should just raise bigger/smaller pre. In this case I'd probably prefer bigger.
    You wanna go bigger than 3.5x IP (which is already reasonably big IP) vs a stack that is already short?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by griffey24 View Post
    You wanna go bigger than 3.5x IP (which is already reasonably big IP) vs a stack that is already short?
    Ye, I don't see why it matters. My bet sizing isn't going to have any major effect on what raises/calls/folds unless I make it HUGE.

    45/70/shove something along them lines.

    I could just as easily go 0.25/0.35/0.80/2 which I prefer most of the time.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by ImSavy View Post
    Ye, I don't see why it matters. My bet sizing isn't going to have any major effect on what raises/calls/folds unless I make it HUGE.

    45/70/shove something along them lines.

    I could just as easily go 0.25/0.35/0.80/2 which I prefer most of the time.
    You're less likely to get a call from a big pre-flop raise than a big flop bet.
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