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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    H1) What range are you putting Villain on OTF that a Q is so menacing? I understand that KQ is in Villain's range, but so is JJ-88 at minimal. Maybe those don't donk OTT, but maybe they do. Maybe random Qx (including AQ) floated OTF.
    I think station down here. There aren't too many 3's in Villain's range and TPTK will catch all of Villain's bluffs (which I find many Villains do way too much in blind battles).
    Confused if you've misread the hand here, since you say he may have floated - he raises the flop. I know he reps really narrow, like AA, KK, QQ that raises to find out if it's beat (and KQ can do the same). After I call the flop raise, what's continuing on the turn that I beat?

    When fish flat preflop then call a big 3bet like this, I so often see AA/KK/QQ and none of them are good news for me. He then goes on to either rep AA/KK on the flop, or possibly even a wierdly played QQ which raises the flop to see if I've really got it, which is something I see a lot from fish do.

    Who knows, maybe I should have called it off, but I think there are a lot of reasons not to.

    H2) How many 6's are in SB's range? Why are you so worried about a 6? I think Villain bets AQ here every time, and JJ,TT,99 sometimes.
    I'd station this one, too.
    I'm wasn't worried about a 6, as you said not many 6s in his range and the turn makes that even less likely. If I didn't make a mistake folding, I think I was already beat on the flop.

    Worried more about QQ that flats preflop to let me bluff away or 22 that called the 3bet to setmine, he's 19/15 - even blind v blind, does a nit with AQ raise the flop, get called then lead the turn?
    Last edited by BorisTheSpider; 09-01-2013 at 09:27 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BorisTheSpider View Post
    Confused if you've misread the hand here, since you say he may have floated - he raises the flop.
    Oops, my mistake. I threw that in as an afterthought, but it was not well thought out, after all.

    My biggest mistakes are when I don't b/f. So maybe continuing here isn't as good as I like to think it is. I don't think a fold is terrible here, w/o history blind v blind.

    Villain's generally wide stats make me want to peel the flop raise. I think you can discount AA here, since Villain flatted twice PRE.

    Then I get myself into this spot where I peeled the flop and I'm not folding when a blank falls OTT. Plus, the 1/2 pot bet looks a bit fishy.

    Quote Originally Posted by BorisTheSpider View Post
    does a nit with AQ raise the flop, get called then lead the turn?
    I've frequently been called a nit, and I find a c/r with a lot of hands is pretty solid blind v blind OTF. I'm usually firing another shot OTT when I c/r OTF. I don't think a c/r is too bad for Villain w/ AQ on a wet board. I think Villain can expect you to C-bet super-wide when checked to. Villain might also think and will call a raise with JJ- and plenty of draws, making a c/r for value a solid play here.

    If that's what he thinks, then a 1/2 pot bet to get value from JJ and charge the draws isn't bad. If he's on a draw and semi-bluffing, it makes sense, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    I've frequently been called a nit, and I find a c/r with a lot of hands is pretty solid blind v blind OTF. I'm usually firing another shot OTT when I c/r OTF. I don't think a c/r is too bad for Villain w/ AQ on a wet board. I think Villain can expect you to C-bet super-wide when checked to. Villain might also think and will call a raise with JJ- and plenty of draws, making a c/r for value a solid play here.

    If that's what he thinks, then a 1/2 pot bet to get value from JJ and charge the draws isn't bad. If he's on a draw and semi-bluffing, it makes sense, too.
    Yeah, I prefer stacking off in hand 2 to doing it in hand 1. In both cases, I hate that I don't know what to do, but if I had to guess I'd say I made a mistake calling the flop in hand 1, and a mistake folding the turn in hand 2.

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