$2NL QQ on the button

[kickass]

Bigger pre for shore, id prolly just nit fold flop, 2nl passive villains are not at all creative they raise cos they nutted. If you have reads contradictory to this go ahead and call but I think those bbs yr burning here are gonna destroy your winrate.

[VoktorBlim]

Bigger pre for shore, id prolly just nit fold flop, 2nl passive villains are not at all creative they raise cos they nutted. If you have reads contradictory to this go ahead and call but I think those bbs yr burning here are gonna destroy your winrate.

Thanks guys for all the replies - I have to say my read was just like Kickass's - I think he was way ahead and I saw no reason to put anymore money in the pot for him. For me it was fold and move on to the next hand.

Kickass - what does "I think those bbs yr burning here" mean? I really am new to this game and have not yet worked out the acronyms. Thks.

[TNreg]

It means you're spewing, burning money, etc. bb = big blinds.

I could go either way here. Folding the flop is ok since I don't like calling the flop with the plan of folding to another bet on the turn. We have position but this runout isn't one of those dry boards where I'd expect a bluffy C/R.

[jackvance]

It means you're spewing, burning money, etc. bb = big blinds.

I could go either way here. Folding the flop is ok since I don't like calling the flop with the plan of folding to another bet on the turn. We have position but this runout isn't one of those dry boards where I'd expect a bluffy C/R.

There used to be a theorem that every raise on a paired board is a bluff. If you lay down a hand as strong as QQ to a simple flop raise, it's gonna be very profitable to raise you on paired boards!

[TNreg]

There used to be a theorem that every raise on a paired board is a bluff. If you lay down a hand as strong as QQ to a simple flop raise, it's gonna be very profitable to raise you on paired boards!

I get what you're saying, but should we really be worried about getting exploited against a guy we have 38 hands on by a passive 2nl villain who's probably just playing his own two cards?

[VoktorBlim]

Hi Jackvance,

If folding the queens on the flop is considered too weak, then I have to play as if he's bluffing or semi-bluffing and we are actually ahead. In that case do I want to go to showdown by calling any raises\bets on the turn river and using the QQ as bluff catchers?

I don't see the point in re-raising or betting out on the later streets as he'll only fold worse hands but call with better.....?

Just to clarify, it was only my read on him being a nitty player who c\r on the flop that made me fold. If it was just a standard cbet or he did not appear to be tight I would not have folded here.