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 Originally Posted by jackvance
Well, what happened was, I felt discouraged she just gave me her facebook. And also I was quite embarassed because I literally didn't remember anything about the conversation from that night, my only real memory was of feeling up her ass and squeezing it the whole time, and that she let me. But then 3 days later I added her anyway, and she pretty quickly asked for my cell phone number, we switched to text messages, and then she asked me out.
Girls giving their facebook and not a phone number is a thing apparently. I don't know if it's being advertised in women's magazines or what is up with that. I just got back from a trip to Maastricht (I live close to the border with Holland), I went there with a friend of mine I hadn't seen in a while. We met up with 3 dutch friends of his. So I found out the point of going there was not to just go get a drink, but to go hunt for chicks. Lol ok, fine with me. This one guy, me and buddy called him 'the terminator'. He'd just relentlessly walk up to any pretty girl in sight. He must have done over 10 cold walk-ups on the street and in stores. But anyway, the point of me telling this, he ended up getting no numbers, but 2 facebooks! So yeah it seems to be more common, and not necessarily that bad.
Oh yeah, I have to elaborate a bit on that last bit, because it's so funny. I decided to try a few walk-ups of my own. When in Rome.. you know.
Girls walks by, seemingly in a hurry..
Me (serious face): "excuse me, can I ask you something?"
Her: "Yeah, sure.."
Me: "Is there a place I can buy toilet paper around here?"
Her: "Eh.. I think you can try Kruidvat (some store)."
Me: "ah.."
Her: "You just go over there in that street, then to the right and.."
At this point I couldn't detain my laughter anymore, and suddenly it hit her I was just messing around. The expression on her face was priceless! Totally embarassed that she was being serious about my obvious nonsense, and she starts laughing. But I didn't have any plan to follow up, so sheepishly laughing I thanked her and she went on her way.
Then I was thinking I needed a closer. Now what these guys liked to do, just as a warm-up, was asking girls where the local Starbucks is. There isn't one btw, but that was the point (there is a reasoning behind this, although I dunno what) I had done this two or three times and always gotten big smile reactions, so I was amped to try it with a closer I just thought of. So I approach a cute girl that is walking my way..
Me: "Excuse me, can you tell me where I can find a Starbucks?"
Her (thinks for a bit, then big smile): "there isn't one around here! I'm sorry."
Me: "But where can we go get a cup of coffee then?"
Now, I said this meaning me and her, as a bit of a plot twist, but she made the (probably logical) assumption I was talking about me and my buddies, so she told me about some coffee place nearby. I just stood there stupidly perplexed, slowly thanked her and she went on her way. Lol such fail.. but good times 
Make no mistake about it-- if a female won't give you her phone number, she just isn't that interested in you. If she will still give out her facebook then she is most likely not totally creeped out by you, but unless women act completely different over the pond with this sort of thing, getting a facebook but not her phone number is a failure. My experience is that people act similarly across different cultures and that is the case.
Really, even getting a phone number is sometimes an admission of failure (and often a very necessary one at that.) It is basically saying that due to time, scheduling, or some other constraints that you want to continue the conversation and relationship building at a later time, but if you are just getting someone's number, you are always going to lose some of that momentum/buildup later on.
Your 'terminator' friend is utterly clueless. Cold walk-ups require balls but balls != game, and going 0/10+ is a big enough sample size for me to say that he isn't very good at what he is doing.
The good news is that between your experience with ms. glitter and your posted convos, you don't seem hopeless. There are things to build on. Just stop thinking the end goal is to get a phone number.
So you strike up a conversation with your bits about buying something or coffee or whatever. Great. It really doesn't matter what you say as much as how you present yourself with body language and attitude. Just don't talk about anything exceedingly boring like the weather or anything that would be socially awkward to mention to a stranger.
Think about your openers just as a way to get into a conversation. Where you go from here is pretty convoluted but if you are trying to get a phone number in order to start some kind of relationship (ok let's cut the crap, to get laid), you are probably going to have to spend at least 10 minutes talking about various subjects with you presenting yourself as someone she would be interested in. There are a lot of telltale signs of when a woman is interested in you, from laughing, to playing playing with her own hair and other favorable body language, just staying and talking to you for an extended period of time, etc. This is when you are getting somewhere. You should probably make it a point somewhere along the way to give her a reason as to why you like her. Maybe you weren't really sure about her at first but she seems like a really sweet and caring person, you get the idea. It is hard to explain how to take a conversation but you start out with more surface level BS and get to the deeper, more meaningful stuff later.
If you want to get a number and have it actually mean something beyond 'that guy in the bar last night', you probably need to at least get to this point. Better yet, don't even try to get a phone number. Just take it as far as you can at the time. If you are at the bar, that means staying and talking etc etc. If you are near a coffee shop, offer to buy a couple of those delicious frappuccinos you were just talking about.
Obviously you are going to have to get a number most of the time but really, it should be normal, and it should be rare that you get an objection. Just talk about some fun activity you can do together and stay for a while after getting the number. Don't get a phone number and then just walk away.
Originally Posted by jackvance
@Lukie: I assume you mean you can produce worse? Well bring it Let's see if I can top it.
Yeah looking back on that I was very unclear. I could top it  , but what I meant to convey is where other guys might be too scared to handle the situation, you are going to step up to the plate .
Ok I think I understand what you mean now, as if I would let this weird me out. I thought at first you were playing along with what boost said. This girl was the shy and introverted girl in high school, now she's blossoming, and this is how she's expressing it with her female friends. I don't think bad about her for it, it just has comedic value when looked at without the context of knowing her and that is why I posted it.
That is a good way to look at it.
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