Obama affirms teh gay.

[boost]

Yeah, I was actually just reading a little about that, and it appears to be the truth. I think circumstance plays a important roll to some extent. Auto/motorcycle/cycle/boat racing all have a fairly high price-point of entry and are often dominated by whites and the upper classes of countries like Brazil who control the vast majority of the wealth of their countries.

I agree that political correctness gets in the way of the truth too often. On the other hand, you have people who, for example, 15 years ago would have used the lack of black quarter backs as evidence that blacks are poor leaders, decision makers, etc.

[Lukie]

Yeah, I was actually just reading a little about that, and it appears to be the truth. I think circumstance plays a important roll to some extent. Auto/motorcycle/cycle/boat racing all have a fairly high price-point of entry and are often dominated by whites and the upper classes of countries like Brazil who control the vast majority of the wealth of their countries.

I agree that political correctness gets in the way of the truth too often. On the other hand, you have people who, for example, 15 years ago would have used the lack of black quarter backs as evidence that blacks are poor leaders, decision makers, etc.

I agree. Personally I wish people could just discuss things openly. I happen to find the subject fascinating (that coming from my athletic/fitness background, and no rascist implications or motives whatsoever.)

[jackvance]

I agree. Personally I wish people could just discuss things openly. I happen to find the subject fascinating (that coming from my athletic/fitness background, and no rascist implications or motives whatsoever.)

Same here, but that isn't true for most people. Most people can't dissociate trying to find out the truth from having an agenda :/

[Lukie]

How are we even arguing this? Did you not make basically the same points earlier in this page?

Yeah, somehow this turned into a nature vs nurture chat.. But economically troubled races/countries producing more than their share of elite athletes in sports which require little investment should not come as a shock. Similarly economically fortunate races/countries producing the top athletes in sports which require a lot of financial investment should not be shocking either.

Yeah, I was actually just reading a little about that, and it appears to be the truth. I think circumstance plays a important roll to some extent. Auto/motorcycle/cycle/boat racing all have a fairly high price-point of entry and are often dominated by whites and the upper classes of countries like Brazil who control the vast majority of the wealth of their countries.

Racing = higher cost of entry and less people participating in it = less competition

http://www.freakonomics.com/2011/10/...acecar-driver/

Q So far, how big is the sunk cost you have devoted to racing?

if you include personal money and money raised from sponsorship, it has probably been around $2 million, probably more.

A It would be hard to estimate with dollars what the sunk cost has been to this point. The majority of the dollars that have helped support my career have come from the little bit of sponsorship I have raised. So if you include personal money and money raised from sponsorship, it has probably been around $2 million, probably more. But sunk costs include time and emotional energy as well. I have spent the past 6 years convincing myself that I have a future career as a driver, pitching and selling my persona to companies around the country and trying to motivate myself and others around me to make this distant hope a reality. But racing is not an all or nothing proposition in terms of value gained. I have learned an immense amount through my racing career to date. How many people at 25 have been traveling the country, giving live media interviews, pitching Fortune 500 companies for millions of dollars and helping lead a team of people? If you expend the effort to explore all the different aspects of being a racecar driver, there are many applicable skills that can be applied to a future career.

Contrast that to paying $20 to sign your kid up for little league, or some MLB stars whos background included playing baseball on an old dirt field with sticks and milk cartons.