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    Default "First" 15.000 hands - Thoughts appreciated!

    Hy there!

    As you can see it´s my second post here so I would like to say hello to everybody who has not read the first one, so... hello!

    Since now, I played 25.000 hands. 10.000 for try and error on 2NL/5NL and now 15.000 seriosly (4tabling and 6tabling on 5NL).
    I would be glad if someone would overlook my stats and maybe find some small or major leaks in my game so I can work on it.
    I know it´s a small sample and stats aren´t everything but maybe you´ll find something?

    Personally I would like to work more on
    1) my Position - more 3bets IP, VPIP-PFR little closer (less calling)
    2) my Disciplin - I´m bluffing/calling to often when playing my B-game

    I have tryed to copie my stats out of hm1 like hell, but I don´t get it. How do you do it? - But enough now, here are my stats:

    Game Type Description $0.02/0.05 NL,holdem,
    Game,Hands 14656
    Winnings $109.96
    bb/100 15.01
    VPIP% 14.8
    PFR% 10.6
    3Bet% 3.9
    vs 3Bet Call% 25.5
    4Bet Range 2.6
    Sqz% 3.3
    WTSD% 26.9
    W$SD% 49.8
    W$WSF 45.0
    Agg 2.84
    Agg% 35.0
    Flop Agg% 37.1
    Turn Agg% 36.4
    River Agg% 27.7
    Flop CBet% 66.7
    Flop CBet% Success 48.9
    Check Raise Flop% 9.6
    Flop Fold vs Cbet 49.6
    Turn CBet% 61.3
    Turn CBet% Success 38.1
    Check Raise Turn% 17.6
    Turn Fold vs Cbet 26.2
    River CBet% 50.0
    River CBet% Success 22.2
    River Fold vs Cbet 25.0
    River Call Efficiency 1.61
    Early UO PFR 6.2
    Middle UO PFR 10.8
    Cutoff UO PFR 19.3
    Button UO PFR 40.0
    SB UO PFR 45.7
    Steal Pct 32.7
    SB Reraise Steal 7.3
    BB Reraise Steal 9.7
    SB Fold to Steal 79.0
    BB Fold to Steal 75.4

    Any Ideas to work on from that?
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    You're probably much better off taking a screenshot from the reports section, by position, with some of the main stats you want feedback on showing as well.
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    Yes better post screenshot of global report and positional report from PT3 or HEM.

    Just to confirm, these are full ring stats, right?

    edit: I wouldn't obsess about tightening the vpip/pfr gap at this stage, as set mining or limping behind with speculative hands does work at 2/5nl.
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    I think you need 10 posts to post a screenshot.
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    Then post it on a 3rd party website and link to it.
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    Mmh, it seems I can´t post a screenshot or a link, so I have to work to get to my 10 posts and upload them later.

    @daviddem
    Yes, it´s full ring.

    I think your right about speculative hands but I was calling with for example AJo and I think K10s or Q9s for example would be smarter?
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    By speculative hands I meant mostly calling raises with 22-88 and limping behind with suited connectors.

    AJ, KTs and K9s are pretty bad hands to call raises with other than against very loose villains (mostly because they are often dominated by a significant portion of the raiser's range). You can open raise AJ from MP/LP and KTs K9s in LP.

    It's all situational of course. Depends on who is doing the raising, depends who is in the blinds when you steal, etc.
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    Think it was a bit late yesterday, Probably should have said more. But nonetheless I checked my play with these hands.

    I like them to defend my blinds against stealers and to play out of late position
    - against specific opponents (calling mostly loose players, calling >2 raisers)
    - and to raise unraised pots

    I feel they play very well in these spots and I think that´s what you mean?
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    Calling hands like K9 in multiway pots isn't a very good idea. Most hands you make are dominated and any big hands you can make are quite obvious.
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    You can't post a clickable link but you can post the link without the "www." and it should post I believe
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    Or you could just come post the url to your stats in IRC and have one of us post it here for you.
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    Wow, just typing all that out should get you a medal
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    I don't have a great concept of FR stats overall, but my first impression of stats is that:

    -your 3b is pretty low, I'd imagine you could find spots to widen that a bit
    -your turn c/r seems high. Are you slow playing monsters on the flop and c/r turn?
    -river call efficiency seems pretty high. This is obviously good, but probably also means you're folding in spots that you could otherwise be making a profitable call
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    Well, just copied and arranged it but a medal would be nice

    So here´s the link without the link:

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    For my last post: You have to ad http:// and the "link" to see it.

    @griffey24

    - 3bet:
    your absolutly right, I will work on it

    - high turn cr: yes, lately I worked on slowplaying most monsters on flop because I
    was getting so many folds to a cr. On turn I get more callers
    but don´t know if it´s good or not because I´ve being outdrawed some
    times as well for my full stack and it doesen´t work for my bankroll.
    It seems I should mix it up a bit.

    - river call efficiency:
    In the first 7000 hands it was about >2,50$. I now get it down to
    1,50-2$. (Maybe a bit too quick?^^). I thought 1,50-2$ would be ok?
    What do you think it should be like?
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    River call efficiency
    -I'm not an expert on this stat, so if anyone has a better understanding of it please chime in
    -my generally impression of this stat is that if you make a particular call on the river, in the long run a 'correct' call will result in a river call efficiency > 1
    -I don't think it's easy to say that this number should be a particular value necessarily. If you were a super-user and saw villain's cards then your river call efficiency would be very large, so that's obviously the ideal scenario.
    -in this case, we aren't super users. You're making calls on the river there are clearly good calls, hence your efficiency is at 1.61
    -but look at it this way: imagine over the course of your sessions there are a range of calls that would net a river call efficiency of 1.1-1.3 as an example. These calls over the long run are profitable calls, but at the same time would bring your river call efficiency down to like 1.3 or something. So your efficiency is dropping, but you're making more profit.

    I know this isn't a helpful answer, but experience will help you determine which calls are correct in which spots.
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