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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    And since when is 1/2 of your stack the magical number for being "committed"?
    What? Are you saying you regularly get half your stack in a pot and then fold?

    If I am raising and I raise to over half my stack, I can't then fold to a shove can I? It's obviously different if the money goes in over 3 streets but in the first example I think once half my stack is in, I can't fold.

    If this is wrong, please tell me why.


    EDIT - @ the algebra thing, me & algebra don't get on. I really don't think algebra is needed to play poker. (Waits for backlash and abuse)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobra_1878 View Post
    EDIT - @ the algebra thing, me & algebra don't get on. I really don't think algebra is needed to play poker. (Waits for backlash and abuse)
    You're not going to find a lot of successful players who can't make basic calculations (that does not mean that being able to perform these calculations automatically makes for a successful player though).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobra_1878 View Post
    What? Are you saying you regularly get half your stack in a pot and then fold?

    If I am raising and I raise to over half my stack, I can't then fold to a shove can I? It's obviously different if the money goes in over 3 streets but in the first example I think once half my stack is in, I can't fold.

    If this is wrong, please tell me why.

    EDIT - @ the algebra thing, me & algebra don't get on. I really don't think algebra is needed to play poker. (Waits for backlash and abuse)
    Quick example of why that line of thinking is unnecessary: Suppose you get half of your stack in, and you find yourself in a situation where you need 20% equity to call, and you think you have less than 5% equity. Then you should fold.

    Your flop raise size is terrible because of the odds it gives your opponent to call.

    Your excuse for not learning basic algebra is also weak and sounds like a woman, and it will definitely impact your ability to learn poker. The required amount of algebra is relatively low, and it has some enormous payoffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    Quick example of why that line of thinking is unnecessary: Suppose you get half of your stack in, and you find yourself in a situation where you need 20% equity to call, and you think you have less than 5% equity. Then you should fold.

    Your flop raise size is terrible because of the odds it gives your opponent to call.

    Your excuse for not learning basic algebra is also weak and sounds like a woman, and it will definitely impact your ability to learn poker. The required amount of algebra is relatively low, and it has some enormous payoffs.
    I am struggling to get my head around the PSR idea. When he bets 0.35, if I raise to $2.32, that is a massive raise, over 6x his bet. I just think by raising that amount I could possibly lose out on value as it's so big. Maybe $1.10 is a little small, what do you suggest I should have raised to?

    Some people can't get the hang of algebra. Seeing letters in equations annoys me and I don't see the need for it. For e.g, in your Mathematics of EV thread, I am fine until "Poker Example 6, Part 8". I can just about understand what you're doing there. Then I am fine again until "Part 13" where it absolutely blows my mind and hurts my head and I can't read anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobra_1878 View Post
    What? Are you saying you regularly get half your stack in a pot and then fold?

    If I am raising and I raise to over half my stack, I can't then fold to a shove can I? It's obviously different if the money goes in over 3 streets but in the first example I think once half my stack is in, I can't fold.

    If this is wrong, please tell me why.


    EDIT - @ the algebra thing, me & algebra don't get on. I really don't think algebra is needed to play poker. (Waits for backlash and abuse)
    How in the world would you know what fraction of your chips are in the pot without algebra?


    STOP TELLING YOURSELF THAT IGNORANCE IS ACCEPTABLE!!!!!

    Algebra is necessary. You already use it, even in the above quote. I don't know who told you that math was not for cool kids, or that being bad at math is lolOK, but you should seriously question this assumption. You have chosen to play online poker and you simply will not excel without being good at middle-school math.

    ... delete delete delete ... This is enough right here...

    Maybe I should add:

    CHOOSING IGNORANCE IS A FOOL'S GAME.

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