*** Super Meta Werewolf Gameplay Thread ***

[rong]

I speak concisely and unambiguously as is a villager's way.

Wolfkind are capable shapeshifters, whispering lies and murky rhetoric, dodging every point, taking scenic and circuitous paths to nonconclusions, as is your way.

LOL

[jyms]

chronological order

LETS GET IT ON!!

BooG suspiciously quiet already. Look out for his 'herp derp in Korea so can't post much and stuff derp' nonsense.

I say we lynch him now and get it over with.

Now heres a fun question: Were some or all of the people bandwagoning spidey wolves? This could be a play to get some credit down the road. Reason for this would be they probably knew pretty early on that he wouldnt be any help or participate, so hes already a lost cause.

Flip side of this,is its stupid to put yourself down a man this early for questionable credit but hey, thats what you smaet folks are here for. To pick apart lame ass,logic from me!

I'm cool with a shotty lynch for today.

Galap, rilla shotty all striking me as odd atm. I dont have much game experience with galap except for an xmas one three years ago but idk. He seems,like hes just bouncing around right now.

Jyms post asking what the count is so 'we can know who to pile on' doesnt sit well with me either..

Lynch jyms.

I know randoms aren't a massive help endgame, but I feel like we actually have a legitimate amount of info to go on going into Day 2. Lynching the random sorta helps, lynching a more active poster helps more. Rilla is going to make looking back a bitch lol.

Lynch jyms guys, my votes already bolded.

Im saying you are the best lynch target BECAUSE YOURE THE MOST LIKELY TO BE A WOLF ATM and you also provide more utilility dead than alive. Give me another lynch option that would provide more infornation from him or her being dead than you. There isnt anyone except perhaps mysef, but, unlike yourself, am atracking those I find suspicious. In other words, YOU.

Defend yourself with more than, 'But gabe said...' Come up with something on your own to get me off your back. You pointing out other villagers also bandwagoning obv has its merits but you are the one broadcasting like youre attempting to hide in plain sight. A good tactic as wolf, one ive used myself in the distant past, but its hard to pull off witbout arousing suspicion and youve been far too heavy handed with it if that is indeed the case. Which clearly I think it is.

Youbknow what, fuck it. We'll play yur and gabes game of lynching pascal.,i thought his postvwas bogus asvwell and im cluttering thevthread with my attacking you. Im curious as to what Pascals role is. But if he shows up as a villager, im coming after you 10 times as hard. If hes a wolf I will back off for a while and pursue others.

rescind jyms
lynch pascal

Gabe @your #4, how convenient one of the best posters was nommed the 1st night before he could post anything other than he'd be back after the weekend.

All I can say to this is I would love to get a lynch train rolling on you now.

Oh sure, now that I hop of the jyms train it picks up steam.. -__-

rescind pascal
lynch jyms a.k.a. teh jimmer

Lol boog comes out of the woodwork to put a lunch vote on me. Put some time into reading the posts dbag.

My wolf candidates in order of how sure I am, with an alternate or two:
1.) Jyms.
2.) Bigred
3.) BooG
4.) Gabe

1.) Dtb
2.) Rilla

Oh, galap should be on my list of alternates as well. I knew I was forgetting somekne.

Posts like this make me suspect Hoopy. How are gizmo and JKDS in any way cleared. How do you clear jyms? I semi-agree on gabe, depends largely on how things pan out later.

me thinks I am changing my list

[jyms]

You've named like 9 people on day two alone

[Hoopy]

Posts like this make me suspect Hoopy. How are gizmo and JKDS in any way cleared. How do you clear jyms? I semi-agree on gabe, depends largely on how things pan out later.

JKDS jumping on spidy very early on, Gizmo seemed to be actively hunting wolves, jyms and you because of super activity and your arguments really look like 2 villagers going at each other.

I mean it's possible that any of those could be wolves, but very unlikely imo.

[bigred]

Do we have an updated count? Why does rilla get 4 votes?

[OngBonga]

I kind of agree with hoopy. I have dranger and gabe as villagers, jyms I'm leaning villager because I think banana is wolf, gizmo it pains me to say I also think is villager, there's just JKDS I don't really agree with, he's quieter than usualy but other than that, no reason to think he's a wolf. I expect more from JKDS as the field thins though. Not sure about hoopy, I never seem to be able to read him, which usually makes me paranoid.

lynch banana

[jyms]

I know for a fact, JKDS is a villager
I rescinded BAnana, but I'm on either him or pascals train

[NightGizmo]

ima werwolf

Combined with his general lack of participation: lynch lolzzz

[OngBonga]

I know for a fact, JKDS is a villager

How? I know for a fact I'm a villager, that is all.

[dranger7070]

It's posts like that that make you want to accuse jyms of shit. (#382)

Concise post of my posts though, my good man. I think that should just about clear my and thank you very much. Glad you're on my side now.

[jyms]

It's posts like that that make you want to accuse jyms of shit. (#382)

Concise post of my posts though, my good man. I think that should just about clear my and thank you very much. Glad you're on my side now.

How are you clear? You actually have named the whole village except 2 or 3 people that I actually think are wolves.

[jyms]

someone want to add it up. I would but I am at work on my phone.

[dranger7070]

I name them as I become suspicious. I never guaranteed my list, like you, yourself did. I understand its what, Day 2? And that a day 2 FOR SURE GUARANTEED LIST OF ALL WOLVES IN GAME is fucking stupid. You make yourself sound like a moron when you say shit like that. Even if you have nailed all 4, its mostly dumb luck, not your deductive skills.

Only you and BooG seem to find me suspicious. I never claimed my list was right, or correct. I suspect everyone, as a villager should. You isolate 4, maybe 5 people and are refusing to alter your course. I haven't changed from you because I'm pretty certain (>70%) that you show up as a wolf. Sorry bro. You're a wolf and you played it badly.

[dranger7070]

And fyi, in your post I named 12 different people. None of whom I've voted for except yourself and Pascal. Don't think I lynched spidey, didn't lynch crazz, didn't lynch shotty.

Oh look, all people you have bolded. Villager, villager, and woulda been dead wolf anyways due to inactivity. Funny how that works out, eh?

[jyms]

dude, why so angry in a WW game? You have to stop with the name calling and using terms as moron and stupid.

[gabe]

heres the postcounts from this thread. lets hack away at the bottom 1/4 of the list. i dont think any of you have made a clear case for who can be a wolf. it sucks that day 1 posts are kinda useless since anyone could have been flipped to the wolfside. if this wasnt true id say hoopy's innocent list was exactly what i was thinking.

fwiw i think jyms is a villager 90+% and dranger a villager 95+%.

i also think those who question the shotglass lynch are not thinking about things right, which makes me think they are likely villagers and not wolves making mistakes

[gabe]

im pretty anxious to see who gets nommed tonight. and since im typing this i know the wolves are gonna try to level us, but its not gonna work! #4thlevel

[bigred]

lynch boog

At the bottom of the post count list and he lives in Korea so he probably eats cute animals

[jyms]

Right now I got

3 jyms
2 DTB
1 rong
1 gala
5 pascal
1 ongbonga
1 dranger
2 lolz

I don't have access to excel so If someone hasn't rescinded I could be off by one somewhere.

Also, rilla has voted like 6 times so I didn't count anything from him yet. Even though he's high on the post list he's posted absolutely 0 content so I put him at the bottom of the post list.

[jyms]

and one for boog obv

[bigred]

and one for boog obv

OBV

[bigred]

rescind boog, lynch pascal

Might as well make my vote count for something. We need to look at Boog, Lolz, and TLR next. TLR should not be this quiet.

[jyms]

That's 6, can we get 3 more and put this day behind us? I'd hate to be the wolf that puts the last vote in on a bandwagon lynch to try and hide his wolfiness

[rong]

Lolzzz is a better lynch than pascal imo, at least pascal gave an excuse for his inactivity and a promise of more to come. Lolzzz hasn't even bothered with that. He also has shown in previous games that he is prepared to use that strategy as a wolf.

[OngBonga]

Yeah I prefer lolz over pascal. I'm sticking with banana unless a lolz wagon materialises.

[rong]

You switching would make t the 2nd bw

[OngBonga]

Yeah but tbh lolz is more a policy lynch because he comes in trolling and doesn't make the effort. I feel banana has a geater than random chance of being wolf, as rilla put it. lolz I think is just a random shot. But he sucks, this "ima werewolf" and "profile views" noise is just lame. So I can support his wagon without a read on him, wheras I feel pascal will be more benefit, I'm not willing to policy lynch him.

I'd sooner see more people join the banana wagon than see a lolz one start.

[jyms]

Just as a note, pascal, boog and TLR were all online today and neither of them has posted here. That's just the first 3 I checked, DTB has been online for the last half hour and hasn't posted

[a500lbgorilla]

Just as a note, pascal, boog and TLR were all online today and neither of them has posted here. That's just the first 3 I checked, DTB has been online for the last half hour and hasn't posted

Don't be lame. This is you being lame.

[wufwugy]

bigred - pascal
gizmo - lolz
ong - dtb
jyms - pascal
rilla - lolz
rong - lolz
boog - dranger
dranger - jyms
pascal - jyms
gabe - pascal
gala - dtb
dtb - jyms
lolz - gala
jkds - pascal
tlr - ong
hoopy - pascal

pascal = 5
lolz = 3
dtb = 2
dranger = 1
jyms = 3
gala = 1
ong = 1

Just over 24 hours left. Any vote at 2:00PM PST or beyond on Friday will not count

[DropTheBanana]

Just as a note, pascal, boog and TLR were all online today and neither of them has posted here. That's just the first 3 I checked, DTB has been online for the last half hour and hasn't posted

That's me having a browser up in the background while working and checking the thread every once in a while.

Nothing that I care to comment on has happened other than I think this Pascal wagon is going to be very telling, but I'm still trying to piece things together.

[a500lbgorilla]

lynch dtb

[rong]

If the DTB lynch takes off I can switch quite happily.

[gabe]

OK lets figure out if DTB is a wolf. pretty much the entire case for DTB is summarized in this galapogos post and the included quote: http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post2113747

i like the 2nd point the best "He subtly tries to draw the votes away from spidey. Said he'd be willing to jump on that bandwagon if everyone really wants him to, but for some reason would rather hitch onto the bandwagon of one of the better players on the first day? Then provides that weird modkill logic on the first page to also avoid a spidey lynch."

i see where he posted the weird modkill logic (http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post2113102). it would be crazy for a wolf to know this isnt true and try to convince the village that it is. its too likely someone just says 'no, youre wrong, we're going to kill you now.' its not like DTB tried hard to convince us of this. that makes me think he was just a villager making a mistake. BUT its still quite suspicious, especially combined with bolding jkds but being open to change to spidey if the bandwagon took off.

he could justve been thinking about it wrong because he had a wolf mindset i guess. im not changing to lynch him but ill bold him after this lynch.

this is another post by him i dont really agree with (http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post2113138). if none of the wolves were on the spidey wagon (which i think is the case), this could be him trying to put the attention on the spidey voters (which i think is bad for the village)

its all circumstantial buts its all we got. im cool with lynching dtb

[DropTheBanana]

im cool with lynching dtb

less than 24 hours ago it was:

im against lynching DTB

Why the change? I thought you were in the "Let's take out the inactives camp"



I'm not going to post much of a defense if the wagon takes off on me since I think me revealed as a villager gives the remaining villagers a somewhat decent amount to go on.

I will say this, watch the people who vote for me, if and when they do, and run that against who has been fighting to take out inactives.

When Jyms was on the chopping block, a few people piped up and are all like "Woah woah, let's take a second here guys and look at the people lying low" but if it picks up on me and sticks, it should be an absolute no-brainer to take out Jyms tomorrow.

[gabe]

"why the change?" uh whats your point? there have been lots of posts in 24 hrs. thats the point of people posting, to influence other people. if no one ever changed their mind this game would be pointless.

and taking the 'im not going to defend myself' route is pretty weak. there are some things you could potentially try to defend. like why you thought it was a good idea to have a modkill and a lynch on day 1. luckily for you, you never had to defend it because very soon after spidey got modkilled. your first post after spidey got killed tried to set the village onto people who thought it was a good idea to lynch spidey (which i firmly believe is crazy at that point in time)

[gabe]

Nothing that I care to comment on has happened other than I think this Pascal wagon is going to be very telling, but I'm still trying to piece things together.

rescind pascal

lynch dtb

i dont think the pascal wagon is very telling AT ALL (although i still want to lynch him). you saying its telling seems like youre trying to pave the way to kill more villagers, like what you did to the spidey voters earlier

[BooG690]

Just as a note, pascal, boog and TLR were all online today and neither of them has posted here. That's just the first 3 I checked, DTB has been online for the last half hour and hasn't posted

I DID post "today." I voted Dranger and explained that the only hunch I have today is Dranger being a wolf. lolzzzz is inching up my list since he's played the "no-play" game as a wolf before. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he did the "I'm a wolf" thing to prove a point this game that we need to start lynching the low-posters (me included, I guess) more often in our games. It's too easy for wolves to post minimally and skate on by.

[Pascal]

Will definitely be on tomorrow morning to post more but I'm going to change:

rescind jyms
lynch lolzzz

DTB's last post seemed weird to me but none of his other stuff seemed that wolfy whereas lolzzz has just been inactive completely.

[DropTheBanana]

seems like youre trying to pave the way to kill more villagers

It seems like you're derailing a wagon on a fellow wolf to kill more villagers.

But both our opinions are circumstantial until our roles are revealed.

[jyms]

I'm expecting the next couple days to be very quick. Teh pascal wagon is not dead, my wagon is not dead and we still need to take out some inactives. I'd like to get one of them started. FWIW, I want to take out DTB, pascal, lolz and TLR in order at least until we hit a villager and reassess

[lolzzz_321]

dont lynch me, bros

[bigred]

dont lynch me, bros

Best argument ever?

[jyms]

Rescind pascal

lynch lolz

This puts DTB and lolz into the fire, lets see who picks which side

[wufwugy]

jyms - lolz
pascal - lolz
gabe - dtb
rilla - dtb
bigred - pascal
gizmo - lolz
ong - dtb
rong - lolz
boog - dranger
dranger - jyms
gala - dtb
dtb - jyms
lolz - gala
jkds - pascal
tlr - ong
hoopy - pascal

lolz = 4
dtb = 4
pascal = 3
dranger = 1
jyms = 2
gala = 1
ong = 1

[Galapogos]

Haven't seen anything posted today that makes me want to change my vote. I still think DTB should go just because of the reasons I have in my previous post. After that though, I definitely think it's time to go after the quiet guys. They never add much to the game and there's always a wolf hanging out with them.

So basically my secondary lynch choices haven't changed either.

[JKDS]

Jyms, pascal, gizmo, rong: Why are you voting lolz instead of pascal or DTB?

What has lolz done other than being lolz? Do you disagree that pascal/dtb are suspect?

[rong]

I already stated my issues with Lolzzz:
- very low activity
- no excuse
- has done it before as a wolf
- we know he can be helpful but he isn't being

I'm easy with dtb or Lolzzz. If we wanna go for low content player Lolzzz is my pick because the others have at least given reasons and I'm always keen to go for low posters both because its hard to get a read later in the game and its a known wolf strategy. But dtb is the wolfiest player so far so I can be down with that too.

[BooG690]

lolzzz obviously doesn't want to stay alive and his fellow wolves wouldn't let him post like this with such heat under him. He's an obvious villager.

[TLR]

Finally had a chance to review this thread and catch up

my top suspects so far

Jyms: jyms seems overly defensive in many posts, even when he was getting little heat, and his long arguement with Dranger did not convince me they are both villagers, I think he is my top pick for today

Ong: Ong game is a ton different then most of his previous games, I think he is trying not to attract to much heat

Lollz: Last time lollz played as wolf (did not remember which game it was) he is as ineffecient as he is in this game, I tend to believe his day 1 post that he is a wolf is something he would do as a wolf

Rilla: Rilla has been popping in this thread and posting very short posts, mainly bolding people left and right, I also think he is probably the leading candidate (except for BR) to go for Gator night one, as I think Gator has a good read on rilla

The way this game goes it will be very hard to get lollz lynched later if he will play UTR wolf

lynch lollz

[rong]

I agree with everything tlr said.

[a500lbgorilla]

If the DTB lynch takes off I can switch quite happily.

The empty promises of a wolf.

[rong]

It's not empty. I'm happy with Lolzzz or dtb. If Lolzzz isn't gonna happen, I'll switch. If it could Ho either way I'll make a decision later today.

[NightGizmo]

Jyms, pascal, gizmo, rong: Why are you voting lolz instead of pascal or DTB?

What has lolz done other than being lolz? Do you disagree that pascal/dtb are suspect?

Rong summed up my feelings about lolzzz. I do think that DTB is suspicious, and he's my second choice for a lynch today, so I won't be disappointed if his wagon wins.

As for Pascal, the main reason he's suspicious is because he's posting so little (which is a common strategy for new wolves). However, he has also given a reasonably believable excuse and has said this:

Will definitely be on tomorrow morning to post more

So I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for Day 2, since we have other good lynch choices. But if he doesn't pick up the pace starting today then he'll definitely be a top lynch choice for me, too.

[Pascal]

Summing up spidy

- TLR suggests lynch
- JKDS snap agrees
- Hoopy gets on too
- Gala rescinds crazz and suggests to lynch spidy
- lolzzz asks someone to tell him who to vote for between spidey and JKDS
- jyms lynches first guy to hit 4 posts (JKDS) but says would still like to "jump to spidey"
- Gizmo switches from JKDS to spidey saying "it's better that we lynch him than let wuf modkill him"
- DTB encourages killing someone else than spidey if wuf is going to modkill

My summary: neither lolzzz or jyms actually bolded spidey, but both went with the "if I have to I will". That seems like a good way to avoid having to bold someone you know is a wolf while still trying to fit in at the same time. I'm also suspicious of Gizmo given he swapped like an hour before wuf posted that he was going to modkill spidey and therefore probably knew that spidey was going to get modkilled anyway. DTB's logic seems really off, but I think he's just not thinking rather than being wolfy.

Day 1 extended

- Gizmo defends JKDS and tries to divert attention to DTB & Crazz
- dranger posts suggesting some people bandwagoning spidey were wolves; I think this is a good but kinda obvious idea, also allows him to take any heat away from himself easily as he didn't post
- a500lb keeps hitting buttons
- Ong goes against shotty
- I bold jyms
- JKDS bolds shotty for defending spidey too quickly
- rong calls Ong out for defending shotty and bolds shotty
- TLR lynches shotty
- BooG gets on shotty lynch
- Gizmo again defends JKDS and pushes blame towards crazz
- Ong encourages crazz wagon away from shotty or DTB
- jyms keeps encouraging pressure on crazzvette
- jyms then suddenly rescinds crazz and lynches shotty
- wolves nom gator

Summing up: JKDS, Gizmo and jyms all stand out as wolfy on Day 1 to me. Jyms's last minute switch which ended up getting Shotty lynched went against everything else he had posted that day, although we can probably assume Crazz was a villager given she decided not to play anymore. Seems like a good diversion. Gizmo continued to defend JKDS at every opportunity.

Day 2

- Gabe bolds me
- I bold jyms
- TLR makes a rare post saying lynch Ong
- jyms bolds me
- dranger bolds jyms
- JKDS bolds me
- dranger rescinds jyms, swaps to me
- jyms rescinds me, suggests DTB
- DTB one line bolds jyms
- jyms continues to defend Crazz and claims DTB is a wolf
- crazz lies
- crazz has herself modkilled

Day 2 extended again
- jyms claims to know "3/4 wolves almost 90%"
- Gizmo posts to defend himself but doesn't suggest anyone else
- gala posts list of DTB, me and TLR but defends jyms
- JKDS stays on the wagon for me saying he's too time restricted to look through posts
- dranger suggests jyms
- Hoopy makes list of villagers: jyms, dragner, gabe, gizmo and JKDS
- jyms bolds me but says "he's my least wolfy of the group"
- jyms pulls lots of dranger wolfy posts but doesn't change vote
- DTB wagon gains pace along with lollzzzz

Andddd that's me up to date. Alright, these are my thoughts:

- TLR is lying low and getting away with it. Everyone else who isn't posting much is getting attacked but TLR has posted nothing of real use and yet isn't getting any attention.
- jyms has done a few things that make him look wolfy to me; claiming to know the wolves without posting any details for example seems like a classic "keep me alive and I'll help in a few days". His switch to shotty on a claimed "soul read" seems suspicious too as she'd have been much better for the village than crazz
- JKDS isn't posting much of use, and seems to like jumping on wagons - good tactic to stay hidden as a wolf by not sticking out much.
- Gizmo looks the most wolfy of everyone to me, he posts to defend himself but avoids attracting attention as well as consistently defending JKDS whatever he does
- Hoopy's list of villagers includes two people I think are villagers and haven't done anything at all wolfy (gabe & dranger) along with three people acting really suspiciously

For those reasons, my list of wolves at the moment is jyms, Hoopy, Gizmo and JKDS. People I haven't yet decided on are galap, Ong, BooG and a500lb, while I'm fairly confident that gabe and dranger are villagers.

Sorry for not being very active, hope this makes up for it!

[Hoopy]

Well that's a good post by pascal, not sure I agree with all of it but the effort is solid.

rescind Pascal
lynch lolzzz

[jyms]

Thanks for the summary, but why are you naming me, hoopy, gizmo and JKDS when you have lolz bolded at this moment in time and he's about to be lynched. There are some things you just mentioned that make me wonder. If I get time I'm gonna go back and look, I think you missed some important things in your summary.

[jyms]

lolzzz obviously doesn't want to stay alive and his fellow wolves wouldn't let him post like this with such heat under him. He's an obvious villager.

This has me concerned too. Because if he turns out to be a villager the heat is going to be on me and not the low post counts. I'm still convinced the DTB and pascal will work out better for the village but the strain of so many people with low post counts is making this tougher.

[gabe]

fwiw im feeling dtb more than lolz. to add to that pascal did a slight deflection off dtb, and since pascal has been a wolf candidate it doesnt really help dtbs case.

vig shoot lolz please

[OngBonga]

TLR, why am I worthy of note for playing differently, but you make no mention of JKDS?

What happened last game? As villager, I got two villagers killed by leading the charge on them. As wolf, JKDS was really quiet all game and then as soon as people start giving him heat for it, he gives us his bs speacial outing and we leave him alone. And you're worried about me because I'm not centre of village discussion?

[jyms]

Boog, you're telling us lolz is an obvious villager and have dranger, an almost obvious villager bolded as a lone vote. You need to pick a side now, if lolz ends up lynched and a wolf you may be next.

Same for others that have bolded some single meaningless vote

[DropTheBanana]

This has me concerned too. Because if he turns out to be a villager the heat is going to be on me and not the low post counts. I'm still convinced the DTB and pascal will work out better for the village but the strain of so many people with low post counts is making this tougher.

Seems like both of our wagons will put the heat on you anyways if we're found innocent since yours was derailed to make room for his and mine.


The Jyms wagon was a step in the right direction. If I'm right about him, I would say Gabe is a wolf too. If we (or the rest of the village in case I get taken out) hit two there I would go with Gizmo as the third.

[lolzzz_321]

lynch dtb

vig, shoot me

[OngBonga]

I'm the vig, I'll shoot you lolz.

[lolzzz_321]

angel, protect me!

TLR is usually more active, no? I mean, he voted for me and I'm a villager, but that obv doesn't mean he's a wolf.

I think dranger is good lynch too cuz he never really mentions DTB and he loves to bandwagon vote like he did on jyms.

[lolzzz_321]

actually i feel good about it i will sacrifice my life like sydney carton did and go for a

vote dranger

[OngBonga]

TLR and dranger are crappy lynches. TLR may become a viable lynch on later days, but for d2 it's awful, he's too valuable. And dranger is, along with gabe, my top villager pick. I'm definitely not joining this wagon.

[NightGizmo]

My summary: neither lolzzz or jyms actually bolded spidey, but both went with the "if I have to I will". That seems like a good way to avoid having to bold someone you know is a wolf while still trying to fit in at the same time. I'm also suspicious of Gizmo given he swapped like an hour before wuf posted that he was going to modkill spidey and therefore probably knew that spidey was going to get modkilled anyway. DTB's logic seems really off, but I think he's just not thinking rather than being wolfy.

I've already made my case for why this argument against me is a non-starter. But I have a question for you -- DTB said the same thing as lolzzz and jyms -- why isn't he wolfy?

I'll hook up to spideyberge's wagon if it takes off but that one might play itself out.

Gizmo defends JKDS and tries to divert attention to DTB & Crazz
...
Gizmo again defends JKDS and pushes blame towards crazz
...
Gizmo continued to defend JKDS at every opportunity.

OK.... I have defended him at every opportunity? Do you have any quotes to back this up? Besides saying that he's a bad Day 1 lynch because he's strong player (which is true and others have repeated), how I have defended him?

Day 2 extended again
- Gizmo posts to defend himself but doesn't suggest anyone else

Umm... How about going after DTB? Or casting my vote for Lolzzz, with reasons?

Gizmo looks the most wolfy of everyone to me, he posts to defend himself but avoids attracting attention as well as consistently defending JKDS whatever he does

So I'm wolfy because I defend myself well and I'm not a wolfy target? That makes no sense!

[NightGizmo]

Seems to me that Pascal is purposely avoiding putting any heat on DTB and instead deflecting to other players. I've changed my mind - Pascal is definitely wolfy.

There are about 2 hours left -- what are other people's thoughts on Pascal's long post? I mainly focused on the nonsense he posted about me and the glaring omission of DTB's "I'll jump on spidey's wagon" comment.

Now I'm tempted to switch to pascal.

[Hoopy]

I think we have a little under 2 hours left.

lolzzz - 6
dtb - 4
pascal/jyms/dranger - 2

Going to look over DTB's posts.

[jyms]

I believe DTB is a wolf, and pascal I am 50/50 on as I saiid earlier. Nobody when I bolded DTB wanted to get onboard sans Gala so I put it on the backburner. I'm home now so I'm going to look this over again but DTB was my original choice

[jyms]

rescind Lolz
Lynch DTB
For the reasons I stated at the beginning of day two. I've wavered too much and as I said originally, I think it would clear me to see he's a wolf

[NightGizmo]

my list of wolves at the moment is jyms, Hoopy, Gizmo and JKDS. People I haven't yet decided on are galap, Ong, BooG and a500lb, while I'm fairly confident that gabe and dranger are villagers.

Interesting -- he left a few people off his list: DTB, lolz, bigred, TLR, rong.

I think we have a lot more to gain if DTB or pascal ends up being a wolf (that pretty much makes the other a wolf, too, imo).

From an information POV, I guess a DTB lynch is better than pascal simply because (assuming DTB is a wolf) pascal basically buried himself by massively deflecting from DTB. The reverse is less true -- if we lynch pascal and he's a wolf, we can't be 100% sure that DTB is a wolf that pascal was trying to protect or it was just a red herring in case pascal got lynched.

rescind lolzzz, lynch dtb

[OngBonga]

So it's currently a tie. Why is lolz wasting his vote on someone who isn't getting lynched when he feels banana is a wolf?

lolz, you want to be changing to banana, because if it's still a tie with 15 minutes left or whatever, I'm changing to you.

[OngBonga]

lol ninja'd by gizmo. So banana back in front. Ignore my last post lolz.