Frequent Poster with Girl Problems

[Chelle]

I'm 25 and look 17, how does that fair with you WillburForce?

[Penneywize]

@OP:

yeah that last line was a bit of a misstep, I hate to sound trite but you should really be doing your best to give off a "cocky & funny" kind of attitude, even if you aren't like that naturally. You're awesome, she should consider herself lucky to have a chance to be with you. Never forget that. And act accordingly.

"Just be yourself" might be the worst ever advice given. I know it sounds disingenuous but it's true. You need to be a better version of yourself when dating. That's where confidence comes in. Sure, you probably lack it in this area, but it's good practice in life regardless.

As for when you should touch her etc. I think Jyms' advice was pretty good, when you get to a second date or whatever, probably a drinks date, that's a good time to break the "physical" barrier by touching her at some point. Shoulder is a good choice obv, like when saying something that she finds funny and you lean forward a bit and touch her shoulder. Obv it cannot look awkward, best way to do it is to not think about it, and maintain eye contact when you do.

Re. when you should kiss her, end of second date seems like a natural time but every girl is different. Invite her to your place to watch a movie or something, if she agrees then you're pretty much there. Just get to talking and eventually stroke her hair a little. Obviously the subject matter needs to be a little bit more personal by this point. Anyhow, if she lets you play with her hair a little (maybe make a comment about how it looks very soft or some shit) then you're good to go in for a kiss. That be all.

Get that far and then we can discuss intercourse.

[WillburForce]

I'm 25 and look 17, how does that fair with you WillburForce?

fine by me