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[2NL] TT 4bet pre OOP, shove on turn.

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  1. #1

    Default [2NL] TT 4bet pre OOP, shove on turn.

    Villain was 25/21 through 24 hands so not much to go on really. He only folded to 25% of 3bets and cbet the flop 100% of the time (4/4). Also had cbet 100% of the time on turn but that was only 1/1

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Button ($1.14)
    SB ($0.59)
    Hero (BB) ($2.19)
    UTG ($1.88)
    MP ($3.52)
    CO ($2.65)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 10, 10
    2 folds, CO bets $0.05, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.16, CO raises to $0.40, Hero calls $0.24

    Flop: ($0.81) 8, 7, J (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $0.42, Hero calls $0.42

    Turn: ($1.65) A (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $1.83 (All-In), Hero ???

    I hate how I have played this hand from the beginning. Should I even be 3betting with TT OOP pre?
    Is it a fold to the 4bet or just enough to call and re-evaluate on flop? Should I be calling the bet on the flop with only one over? Really think I have played this horribly.
  2. #2
    Those 3 times that villain continued to a 3b, did he call, or did he 4b?

    Assuming he was mostly just calling, I'm fine with 3b/folding here for value. If we have any reason whatsoever to believe he might be bluffing, then we can 3b/shove, but I doubt that's the case.

    AP, fold flop.

    AP, fold turn.
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    fold the flop, not even sure Id call preflop - but im FR not 6 max but dont even remember calling 4bets OOP with TT being a +ev play.
  4. #4
    Decide whether to shove or fold pre, don't flat out of position. I'm shoving FWIW
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    pre - shove
    ap - fold flop

    Edit:
    Quote Originally Posted by Pascal View Post
    Decide whether to shove or fold pre, don't flat out of position.
    oh, and defo this^^^

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    Is it ever profitable to shove with TT? That's what I was worried about, hence the stupid call, I wasn't expecting a 4bet.
  7. #7
    3betting TT oop will lead to some tougher spots, here I think it's ok.

    Fold to the 4bet and definitely fold turn, we beat nothing.
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    Is it ever profitable to shove with TT?
    Readless, probably not. vs a fish who calls ATs, K9o, 22+ etc... obviously it's very profitable.
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    5b shoving TT at 2nl against the described villain is hemorrhaging money. hemorrhaging MONEY.

    ?wut
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikes View Post
    5b shoving TT at 2nl against the described villain is hemorrhaging money. hemorrhaging MONEY.
    So, you just fold to the 4b?
  11. #11
    Don't mind the 3bet pre but i would definitely fold to the 4bet, not getting correct odds to setmine stacks aren't deep enough. If you have a read he's 4bet bluffing jamming is good also but it's highly unlikely at 2nl. After the call pre, check folding the flop if you don't spike a ten or flop a straight or something is probably the best action in a 4bet pot. Villiain knows you have a decent hand after you call his 4bet and is still continuing to bet his hand i don't think he's just trying to run you over here and don't think hes ever folding that's why i think check folding the flop is best.
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