[2NL] Suited Connectors ( Really Stuck )

[OngBonga]

I don't mind calling a x3 open here if we've got good implied odds. If raise is 6c, then we're getting over 30:1 when we stack him, good enough to fish for a monster vs his ridic tight range. But this raise gives us barely enough to setmine him with a pp, so small scs, it's a no brainer fold, we need to be 200bb deep like villain and have reads that he's not going to fold KK/AA overpairs (I'm happy this guy won't fold these).

As for flop, just fold draws on paired board as standard. vs many villains, there's maybe a good argument for raising this flop, but not vs this guy, and calling sucks pretty much always imo. Fold pre, fold flop, fold turn.

[surviva316]

I don't mind calling a x3 open here if we've got good implied odds. If raise is 6c, then we're getting over 30:1 when we stack him, good enough to fish for a monster vs his ridic tight range.

A lot of mention of implied odds and how much we're calling in comparison to how deep stacks are. I think it's fair to mention that stack sizes getting deeper and deeper doesn't just make our implied odds good with a hand that rarely makes the nuts (even in position). As the spr balloons (close to 30:1 in the example you gave where you would flat pre) the prospect of maybe getting a 5-high flush becomes much less of an easy implied odds spot.

It just so happens that I think this hand does get more playable in this spot as we get deeper, but it has to do with factors well beyond the fact that the call is small in comparison to stack sizes and even beyond considering that his hand is strong.

The fact that his range is insanely well defined and he's a bad player who will play this range exploitably (so the clearer the postflop reads, the much much much better our prospect of playing this hand in position gets) is really what makes us want to play this hand deep. It's very nice to have a good idea of where that exploitably lies (does he pay off way too much even when an obvious draw hits, or do obvious draws make him unnecessarily scared so we can bluff a lot on boards where we have backdoors and we can bluff when the non-backdoors hit, etc.).